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Tigers lose more than Yankees after suspension

Sep 30, 2011, 11:27 PM EDT

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In theory, the Tigers were going to be significantly more dangerous in a five-game series than in a seven-gamer.  All because certain AL Cy Young Award winner and probable MVP Justin Verlander would have been able to start 40 percent of the possible games, rather than 29 percent.

Now, he’s essentially starting 20.

Friday’s Game 1 between the Tigers and Yankees was suspended with the score tied 1-1 after 1 1/2 innings.  So, now, with Friday’s game getting picked up Saturday and Saturday’s game being pushed back a day, we’re looking at the following matchups for the rest of the series.

Game 1: Doug Fister vs. Ivan Nova
Game 2: Max Scherzer vs. Freddy Garcia
Game 3: Justin Verlander vs. CC Sabathia
Game 4: Rick Porcello vs. A.J. Burnett
Game 5: Doug Fister vs. Ivan Nova

The only off day is scheduled for Wednesday between Games 4 and 5.

It could certainly be worse for the Tigers.  Fister has pitched extremely well, and the matchup of him versus Nova seems a bit advantageous. Also, the Yankees will now be starting Burnett when they had no intention of doing so in the first place.

But the Yankees have more depth in their pitching staff than the Tigers do and are better equipped to handle five games in six days.  If a Tigers starter gets knocked out early — and it’s bound to happen at least once during the series — then it’s going to be Brad Penny time.  And little good can come from that.

  1. dirtyharry1971 - Oct 1, 2011 at 12:17 AM

    I dont see how starting AJ is ever a good idea or gives the Yanks any kind of advantage. I would give Hughes\Colon a shot over AJ, hell id take Penny over AJ and Penny did throw a good game one time this year against the Yanks

  2. pestiesti - Oct 1, 2011 at 12:26 AM

    Yes, but now Burnett will be staring potentially 20% of the games instead of 0%.

    • pestiesti - Oct 1, 2011 at 12:40 AM

      Obviously I meant starting, but staring would probably be just as effective for him.

  3. trigzter - Oct 1, 2011 at 1:30 AM

    I don’t see why the Tigers don’t just have Verlander pitch game 2. He only pitched one inning.

  4. sportsfan8888 - Oct 1, 2011 at 2:15 AM

    Apparently, you Yankees fans have not see Doug Fister pitch
    after the All Star break (when he was traded from the Mariners to the Tigers)


    His ERA is lower in the 2nd half, he is 8-0 with the Tigers after the trade
    his pitch counts are much lower and he is a better fielder defensively.

    So, be careful what you wish for.

    Plus, Verlander pitching at CoAmerica Park with 50k screaming home fans
    is virtually unbeatable.
    Verlander had a no hitter at home and a few near miss no hitters at home.

    This change in schedule could actually favor the Tigers and set up Verlander
    for the 1st start in round 2 against Tampa lol!!!

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM


      Fister’s last start as a Mariner was against the Yanks, he lost 4-1. Then he went to Detroit and proceeded to face:
      Tex(W), Cle(L), Bal(L), and won the remainder against Cle, TB, KC, Cle, Min, Oak, KC and Cle. Yes you can only pitch against who you face, but this isn’t exactly a murderer’s row of opponents here.

      Plus, Verlander pitching at CoAmerica Park with 50k screaming home fans
      is virtually unbeatable.

      Tigers are 0-2 vs the Yanks this year with Verlander pitching including once at Tiger’s stadium

      • Charles Gates - Oct 1, 2011 at 8:56 AM

        Stupid facts getting in the way of an all caps lol.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 1, 2011 at 9:31 AM

        Yeah silly me, why do I even bother. Oh now I remember:

    • Jay - Oct 1, 2011 at 10:35 AM

      Everybody talks about the Tigers dominance in September. Until Friday’s game started, the Tigers did not play a SINGLE GAME in September against a team with a record above .500

      The Tigers are a .500 ball club outside of their own division this year. They have feasted on the Twins, Indians, and Royals. Their defense stinks. Sure Valverde has 49 saves. But his two losses came against the Yankees and Red Sox. They’re a paper team. No more.

      Their only hope was to have Verlander pitch twice in this series and even then he was going to have to pitch brilliantly to win. Didn’t start off well. He threw 25 pitches in the first inning. 14 strikes and 11 balls. Not good.

  5. sportsfan8888 - Oct 1, 2011 at 3:47 AM

    A few more points about Fister and the Tigers:

    Fister is a ground ball pitcher
    and Yankee stadium kills fly ball pitchers:
    this means if Fister is on, then the homer happy
    Yankee stadium advantage is nullified when Fister pitches: Advantage Tigers

    Yankees team BA is 50 points lower at Detroit’s CoAmerica Park

    Oh, did I mention that the Detroit Tigers have one of the best home records in major league baseball?

    Tigers just need 1 win at Yankee stadium with Fister,
    and it is 2006 all over again,
    there would be no 5th game at Yankee stadium

    • Kevin S. - Oct 1, 2011 at 9:01 AM

      Yankees also have a bunch of fly ball hitters, who ground ball pitchers have more trouble with. Pitchers do better against same-type hitters.

    • Jay - Oct 1, 2011 at 10:46 AM

      “Oh, did I mention that the Detroit Tigers have one of the best home records in major league baseball?”

      Sure, when you play nearly nearly 30 of your games at home against the Twins, Royals and Indians that’s bound to happen.

      And who has Fister faced? Yes he has a win against Tampa Bay and and one against Texas. The other teams?

      Baltimore – .426 (Once)
      Cleveland – .494 (4 times)
      Kansas City – .438 (twice)
      Minnesota – .389 (Once)
      Oakland – .457 (Once)

      During one stretch in July when Fister did face four teams in a row with a .500 or better record he went 0-4.

  6. verytalldad - Oct 1, 2011 at 4:20 AM

    GO NATS!!!!

    • verytalldad - Oct 1, 2011 at 4:20 AM

      Wait, is this 2014, because the Nats will be here when it is.

  7. geezus313 - Oct 1, 2011 at 7:34 AM

    @sportsfan8888 its Comerica

  8. purnellmeagrejr - Oct 1, 2011 at 9:14 AM

    Incredibly rigorous mathematical analysis Matthew performed for us all. To expand even further – If Verlander wins one game then that will be one third (or 33 per cent) of the victories the TIgers need to advance – Geez – I’m going back to bed my head’s starting to hurt from all this calculus.

  9. jdillydawg - Oct 1, 2011 at 10:35 AM

    I live in Seattle. I’ve seen Fister put up many a losing a battle because his team could only score one run…if that.

    Since my Mariners are home (again, imagine that), I’m pulling for Fister to make this trade work out well. I don’t have any stats to back up my theory that he’ll win both games, I just have more faith that the Tigers will score more runs than the Yanks and he’ll do his job.

  10. massivedick - Oct 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM

    Spankees influence to start the game sacrificing CC for Verlander. The boss did this from his grave. He was brilliant alive and his legacy remains.

  11. spudchukar - Oct 1, 2011 at 12:00 PM

    Seems like a wash to me. Not sure any team really gains an advantage. If anything it exposes the Yankees lack of starter talent. Penny may be a poor option but any equation that puts Burnett on the hill in the post season cannot be favorable. I am betting on the over.

  12. Mark - Oct 1, 2011 at 12:11 PM

    I’d much rather face Nova/Garcia/Burnett over Fister/Scherzer/Porcello. If anything this benefits the Tigers and not the Yankees. The difference between Verlander and CC isn’t very big, but the difference between Fister/Scherzer and the next best Yankee starters is fairly significant.

    • brianbowman16 - Oct 1, 2011 at 1:32 PM

      if you listen to the yankee homers, our pitchers beat NOBODY and their offense DIDN’T carry everybody but cc on that team

      • 50milessouthofdetroit - Oct 1, 2011 at 5:04 PM

        it’s hard not to think like they do when all you watch is E (YES!) PN

      • Kevin S. - Oct 1, 2011 at 7:29 PM

        Last time I checked, the Yankees scored 80 more runs and allowed 54 fewer runs than the Tigers while playing in a division whose fourth-place team had a better record than the Comedy Central’s second-place team.

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