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	<title>Comments on: Joe West got the message</title>
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		<title>By: brianbowman16</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brianbowman16]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 05:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the frustration with the umpires, especially west, but the people calling for &#039;change&#039; and &#039;turnover in the ranks&#039; need to really back up and think about it.

We have crap because we have no other choice, Selig will always back the umpires that people consider to be the worst, because generally those feelings come from those umpires making a few &#039;wrong&#039; calls that went against &#039;their team&#039; . The umpires who take the brunt of the aggression are the longer-tenured guys who have been around long enough to make 3 or 4 bad calls in the midst of THOUSANDS of absolutely correct calls. 

how would you feel if after you have worked at your job, after thousands of times actually REMEMBERING the cover sheet on the TPS reports, thousands of people freak out about the 3 or 4 times that you DIDN&#039;T remember?

and i know whats coming next, those TPS reports don&#039;t affect the 50 guys in the game or thousands of fans, but try to get the point. 

Not trying to piss of the &#039;real fans&#039; on this site, just trying to throw out a point that nobody was willing to bring out, in fear of being &quot;the damned villain umpire lover&#039;

Go Tigers!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the frustration with the umpires, especially west, but the people calling for &#8216;change&#8217; and &#8216;turnover in the ranks&#8217; need to really back up and think about it.</p>
<p>We have crap because we have no other choice, Selig will always back the umpires that people consider to be the worst, because generally those feelings come from those umpires making a few &#8216;wrong&#8217; calls that went against &#8216;their team&#8217; . The umpires who take the brunt of the aggression are the longer-tenured guys who have been around long enough to make 3 or 4 bad calls in the midst of THOUSANDS of absolutely correct calls. </p>
<p>how would you feel if after you have worked at your job, after thousands of times actually REMEMBERING the cover sheet on the TPS reports, thousands of people freak out about the 3 or 4 times that you DIDN&#8217;T remember?</p>
<p>and i know whats coming next, those TPS reports don&#8217;t affect the 50 guys in the game or thousands of fans, but try to get the point. </p>
<p>Not trying to piss of the &#8216;real fans&#8217; on this site, just trying to throw out a point that nobody was willing to bring out, in fear of being &#8220;the damned villain umpire lover&#8217;</p>
<p>Go Tigers!!</p>
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		<title>By: notsofast10</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[notsofast10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 02:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is everybody upset about a peanut vendor in the crowd?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is everybody upset about a peanut vendor in the crowd?</p>
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		<title>By: smokehouse56</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[smokehouse56]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 01:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh no, you said &quot;bullet proof.&quot; Shame, shame, shame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, you said &#8220;bullet proof.&#8221; Shame, shame, shame.</p>
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		<title>By: nixonotis</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203878</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nixonotis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TBI, did you just compare Gator&#039;s post to terrorism?  You&#039;re living up to your name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TBI, did you just compare Gator&#8217;s post to terrorism?  You&#8217;re living up to your name.</p>
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		<title>By: presidentmiraflores</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[presidentmiraflores]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Psst, he&#039;s not a manager, bro.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psst, he&#8217;s not a manager, bro.</p>
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		<title>By: The Common Man</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Common Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back off, TBI.  Gator was clearly being sarcastic, not advocating violence. If you can&#039;t see that, you need glasses more than Cowboy Joe does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back off, TBI.  Gator was clearly being sarcastic, not advocating violence. If you can&#8217;t see that, you need glasses more than Cowboy Joe does.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, advocating violence is &quot;irony&quot;?    I guess terrorists are only waxing poetic about &#039;killing infidels&quot; and don&#039;t really mean it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, advocating violence is &#8220;irony&#8221;?    I guess terrorists are only waxing poetic about &#8216;killing infidels&#8221; and don&#8217;t really mean it.</p>
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		<title>By: 23yankees</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[23yankees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should make that fat turd do only Yankee and Red Sox games.  This way he would be working twice as long as any other umpire crew. Haha. Country Joe!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should make that fat turd do only Yankee and Red Sox games.  This way he would be working twice as long as any other umpire crew. Haha. Country Joe!</p>
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		<title>By: mikedi33</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203835</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mikedi33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, umpiring in general was unacceptable this year. MLB really needs to a better job in this area. It is almost once they arrive they feel they have tenure and are bulletproof.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, umpiring in general was unacceptable this year. MLB really needs to a better job in this area. It is almost once they arrive they feel they have tenure and are bulletproof.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baseball Idiot, re-tune your antennae for &quot;irony,&quot; will you? One only wants one&#039;s cyberspatial handle to be appropriate up to a point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baseball Idiot, re-tune your antennae for &#8220;irony,&#8221; will you? One only wants one&#8217;s cyberspatial handle to be appropriate up to a point.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard In Big D</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard In Big D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They may be required to, but...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They may be required to, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to just pass over the umpire posts, because frankly, I don&#039;t give a shit about them.  But since the aptly named &quot;Baseball Idiot&quot; started posting his defenses of pieces of shit like Joe West, these posts are now the highlights of my day on HBT.com.  

Keep up the great work Craig...and &quot;The Baseball Idiot&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to just pass over the umpire posts, because frankly, I don&#8217;t give a shit about them.  But since the aptly named &#8220;Baseball Idiot&#8221; started posting his defenses of pieces of shit like Joe West, these posts are now the highlights of my day on HBT.com.  </p>
<p>Keep up the great work Craig&#8230;and &#8220;The Baseball Idiot&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: hermitfool</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hermitfool]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe Joe&#039;s crew got the message on tossing people, but they need to work on the whole accurate call businessl. (see blown call on the potential double in the DBacks-Brewers game over the weekend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Joe&#8217;s crew got the message on tossing people, but they need to work on the whole accurate call businessl. (see blown call on the potential double in the DBacks-Brewers game over the weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: phightinsphan</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203788</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phightinsphan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe West is absolutely horrible. Only manager in baseball who seems to be biased every single time he works one of our games. There is no need in the game for this whatsoever. The message he was given should have neen more on the lines of, do your job the way it is supposed to be done or look for employment elsewhere. Only official in professional sports who if he was attacked by a player is personally feel it would be understandable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe West is absolutely horrible. Only manager in baseball who seems to be biased every single time he works one of our games. There is no need in the game for this whatsoever. The message he was given should have neen more on the lines of, do your job the way it is supposed to be done or look for employment elsewhere. Only official in professional sports who if he was attacked by a player is personally feel it would be understandable.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203785</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, that&#039;s it. Advocate violence against someone because they aren&#039;t good at their job.  

Do you threaten to beat the shit of the old people at Wal-Mart if they don&#039;t greet your properly?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s it. Advocate violence against someone because they aren&#8217;t good at their job.  </p>
<p>Do you threaten to beat the shit of the old people at Wal-Mart if they don&#8217;t greet your properly?</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All umpires working the plate are required to do that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All umpires working the plate are required to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: rollinghighwayblues</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rollinghighwayblues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always been a fan of Tschida&#039;s unique strike call, that and how he always shows the count with his fingers after every single pitch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been a fan of Tschida&#8217;s unique strike call, that and how he always shows the count with his fingers after every single pitch.</p>
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		<title>By: havlicekstoletheball</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[havlicekstoletheball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OG,

By the looks of West, he doesn&#039;t HAVE a throat.  Players who complain are annoying, and I wouldn&#039;t wanna listen to it, either.  But umpires who are deliberately confrontational stand to ruin the game.  Torre needs to keep the pressure on umpires like West.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OG,</p>
<p>By the looks of West, he doesn&#8217;t HAVE a throat.  Players who complain are annoying, and I wouldn&#8217;t wanna listen to it, either.  But umpires who are deliberately confrontational stand to ruin the game.  Torre needs to keep the pressure on umpires like West.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tough love is okay. Taking the bastard by the throat and beating the living shit out of him would have gotten even &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt; results. 

Of course, Joe Torre has gotten a little too old for that sort of thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough love is okay. Taking the bastard by the throat and beating the living shit out of him would have gotten even <i>better</i> results. </p>
<p>Of course, Joe Torre has gotten a little too old for that sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: dowhatifeellike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dowhatifeellike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember when Tschida&#039;s crew used to do most of the Orioles home games. Those were better days for balls and strikes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when Tschida&#8217;s crew used to do most of the Orioles home games. Those were better days for balls and strikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco (FC)</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francisco (FC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you&#039;re saying Joe Torre offered him two Scooby snacks? or was it three?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re saying Joe Torre offered him two Scooby snacks? or was it three?</p>
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		<title>By: lanflfan</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/joe-west-got-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-203708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lanflfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Cowboy Joe really &quot;got the message&quot;, he would retire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Cowboy Joe really &#8220;got the message&#8221;, he would retire.</p>
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