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John Mayberry Jr. likely starting in left field for Game 3 of NLDS

Oct 3, 2011, 6:45 PM EDT

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According to Matt Gelb of the Philadelphia Inquirer, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel confirmed that John Mayberry Jr. will likely start in left field for Game 3 of the NLDS against the Cardinals tomorrow, leaving Raul Ibanez on the bench.

This isn’t a huge surprise given that the Phillies will be facing left-hander Jaime Garcia. Mayberry batted .306/.358/.595 with eight homers and .953 OPS over 120 plate appearances against southpaws this season while the veteran Ibanez batted just .211/.232/.353 with four homers and a .585 OPS over 138 plate appearances.

Much has been made of Garcia’s success over a handful of appearances against the Phillies during his career, but more important may be his dramatic home-away splits. The 25-year-old left-hander has a 2.37 ERA in his career at Busch Stadium compared to a 4.28 ERA on the road.

  1. foreverchipper10 - Oct 3, 2011 at 6:53 PM

    Here is hoping Jaime can stymie those bats!

    • halladaysbiceps - Oct 3, 2011 at 6:57 PM

      Yeah. And the Atlanta Braves will be watching from their homes to see if Jaime Garcia is able to quite the bats too.

  2. stlducks - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:03 PM

    and pissed off phillie fans can start making excuses now…like biceps saying cliff lee sucks hahah ok buddy before the game you were saying cards best chance ofe winning was off halladay bc clifford was going to shut them down and then hamels was coming…now lee sucks?

    • halladaysbiceps - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:07 PM

      Get it right. I didn’t say Cliff Lee sucks a pitcher. I said Cliff Lee stunk in last nights game and lost it for the Phillies. And he did suck. I never made any excuses for the Phillies yesterday. I told everyone on the board he stunk, and was scolded.

      • halladaysbiceps - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:08 PM

        **sucks as a pitcher – edit.

      • ditto65 - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:29 PM

        You suck pitchers in Boston.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:07 PM

      Making excuses because Mayberry Jr. will start? I don’t understand what you are talking about.

  3. phightinsphan - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:05 PM

    Mayberry is in the running for the starting spot in left field next year and for good reason. Look for him to have a solid game. Between him and Pence we will have more success against Garcia then we’ve had in the past. Cole is going to give them problems and we WILL be up 2-1 in the series with Oswalt going in game 4. This will set us up to have Halladay and Lee for our 2 home games against the Brewers in the lcs. We should all be confident about our third ws appearance in 4 years.

    • kycardsfan - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM

      sounds like someone is getting ahead of themselves…kinda like the phillies did last night with a 4 run league and Cliff Lee on the mound. Keep counting the cards out….

      • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:26 PM

        Are you saying that the Phillies thought the game was over? On what basis do you make this statement?

      • ditto65 - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:30 PM


    • cintiphil - Oct 4, 2011 at 9:17 AM

      I watched him play for a while now, (Mayberry) and one thing is clear. You have too much confidence in him. From where I sit, he is not his dad.

  4. halladaysbiceps - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:32 PM

    Look, I will state this again for you St. Louis simpletons my thoughts on last night game. The Phillies, as they should have done, hit Carpenter around on his three days of rest, which was expected and should have happened. They scored 4 runs off him and the score is 4-0. They hand that over to Cliff Lee, one of the 4 aces. HE IS EXPECTED AT THAT POINT TO HOLD ON TO THAT LEAD!!! He didn’t do his responsibility for a guy that is being paid 120 million to do so. I don’t care about the Phillies offense against the Cards bullpen, Tony LaRussa, Jerry Meals, etc. This loss was on Cliff Lee, period. I can’t make it any clearer.

    • thefalcon123 - Oct 3, 2011 at 10:08 PM

      Yeah, how dare he lose a game. He should probably hang himself in shame over it.

      • halladaysbiceps - Oct 3, 2011 at 10:12 PM

        That’s not the point I am making about Lee. He needs to be accountable. He accepted responsibility for the loss. He is a standup guy. He still loss the game, though. All I’m saying.

    • sasquash20 - Oct 4, 2011 at 2:58 AM

      I agree that Lee didn’t pitch well, but it wasn’t only his fault that the Phillies lost that game. 15 Batters in a row were sent back to the dugout by the Cards bullpen. Do the math that is 5 innings with nothing going from the plate. To say Lee gets paid 120 million to do so, is just so lame. Its not your money. And if he was a free agent tomorrow you would blow him to come back. Lee is a stud and if he gets another chance to pitch this season I would be willing to bet he pitches his ass off. You can’t win every game. The Cards know Lee throws near the plate and they attacked anything near it. Yeah would have liked a more consistent ump, but he was bad for both teams. The Cards are a good offensive team that is going to get hits and put guys on base. I still believe that the Phillies will win in 5 like I thought from the start of the series. These are two teams that have a lot of experience and are both battle tested. This is what playoff baseball is all about.

      • cintiphil - Oct 4, 2011 at 9:27 AM

        I agree with what you are saying, because I noted two weeks ago that the Philthy’s were not playing well, and could be a total collapse. In fact, I said the series with Atlanta was critical, because it looked like the Phills were tanking and it could be a trend. But, they came through and did a good job. Now the question is did they do so well because the Braves pitching was going south? The game tonight will tell it all. If the Cards win easily, I think it is over for the Philthy’s. If they come back to win, then they will take it in 4.

  5. kycardsfan - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:33 PM

    well maybe not the Phillies team, but i have a feeling everyone not rooting for the cards did, Cliff Lee is a great pitcher…im not saying the cards are going to win this series, but the cockiness of some of these phillies fans is ridiculous. the cards went into philly 3 weeks ago and beat hamels and halladay, and beat lee earlier this season, idk why people dont think it cant happen again. Last night is why we play the games.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:52 PM

      Not me my friend. I’ve seen Lee pitch enough to know when to be nervous. He had me nervous from the get go last night.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:55 PM

        Leadoff triple was a little scary as was the leadoff double in the 2nd. He pitched around them and I thought at that point the Cardinals were going to be too deflated to do anything. Lee was just leaving everything over though, and they took advantage.

        I know this much…if the Phillies start tomorrow night’s game with a triple and don’t score…then start the second with a double and don’t score, I’ll be very nervous.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:17 PM

        If the Phillies lose tomorrow night would you start Doc on short rest Wednesday and have Lee go on normal rest in game 5? Doc has a pretty good career ERA on short rest…albeit with a limited sample size of 6 starts.

  6. phightinsphan - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:40 PM

    Ahead of myself? The cards are good man. We are great. They turned a dissappointing season into a birth in October but you can’t seriously think it goes any further than that.

    • kycardsfan - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:46 PM

      I dunno anymore man, i wrote this team off in august after they got swept by LA, and here they are winning games in october they have no business winning. Philadelphia is the better team and there is no denying that, but stl has been playing great baseball for a month and has continued to do so through 2 games (well 1.5 games). So no they really arent supposed to go any further than this series but who knows…

      • Chris Fiorentino - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:49 PM

        After 2006, when the Cardinals won the World Series with only 83 wins, I’d never put anything past them. I’m rooting for the Phillies, but like I said earlier, I’m not worried just yet. If they lose to Garcia, then I will be worried.

      • spudchukar - Oct 4, 2011 at 2:50 PM

        Hey Einstein, really if you are down 2-1 with another game in St. Louis you are worried? A little late on the Concern-O-Meter.

    • thefalcon123 - Oct 3, 2011 at 10:10 PM


      Or so say the 06 Cards, 03 Marlins, 97 Marlins, 87 Twins, 90 Reds, etc.

      • cintiphil - Oct 4, 2011 at 9:31 AM

        90 Reds? Are you nuts? They went wire to wire that year. First place from start to finish, never out of it. they had to be the favorite over anyone!

      • thefalcon123 - Oct 4, 2011 at 10:30 AM

        This is not meant to knock the 90 Reds, but they were clearly inferior to the 1990 A’s whose team consisted of Rickey Henderson, full roided out Canseco, pretty good but not great McGwire era, Harold Baines, Dave Stewart, an absurd bullpen, etc. THey were clearly the underdogs and *destroyed* the A’s.

  7. Chris Fiorentino - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:47 PM

    There is no chat blog so I have to ask here…WTF was Washington doing taking Lewis out of the game with only 93 pitches and 1 hit given up? Oliver comes right in and loads the bases and now the Rays have life after looking in trouble after the 4 run top of the 7th. Was Lewis gassed at only 93 pitches?????

  8. phightinsphan - Oct 3, 2011 at 7:59 PM

    They beat 2 of the three above mention aces with out triple a team on the field. Lee while pitching in his worse month km the spring. That means nothing now.

  9. stlducks - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:14 PM

    the cardinals les the NL in runs scored and were the number one offense even with injuries to Pujols and Holiday. Why would anyone be so confident to say the phillies are going to win easily. And dont say the Phillies were not trykng when the cards went 6-3 vs them this season that is ridiculous.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:19 PM

      Season series is irrelevant. Both teams were at less than full strength for those games.

    • firedude7160 - Oct 3, 2011 at 10:17 PM

      It’s not ridiculous, it is accurate. And, as past years have shown, season series mean nothing come playoff time

    • cintiphil - Oct 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM

      Great pitching trumps hitting anytime. That is if you have Cy Young winners on your team, as do the Phills. They have two.

  10. phightinsphan - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:19 PM

    The cards went 6-3 yes. Three wins came after we clinched and sat everyone. That leaves 6 games. Out of them 6 games we played our regular lineup once and we won. So toy were 3-2 against our triple a team. Congrats.

    • cintiphil - Oct 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM

      Meaningless. That is not why they lost all those other games except to the Braves. It is time to worry, if they don’t show something tonight.

  11. mplsjoe - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:24 PM

    Maybe Mayberry can finally get a date with that mermaid.

  12. stlducks - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:35 PM

    wow a phillie fan making excuses…thats wierd….the cards beat lee and oswalt back in May with both teams healthy, besides the cards not having Freese. And stop saying the phillies quit trying in early Septemer they were still playing. The phillies took two out of three in august with the cards winning thier game by 10. So please tell me what makes u so confident the phillies will easily win this series, which by the way the cards now have home field advantage.

    And did I mention the cards did all this without one of the best pitchers in baseball all season. See how good the Phillies are for a whole year without Halladay

    • halladaysbiceps - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:38 PM

      Now you are just trying to start shit. No Phillies fan on this thread is making excuses for the the loss. Reread the thread again and try to find an excuse.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:46 PM

      Seriously, why are you starting shit. I stated above the season series is irrelevant because both teams were playing at less than full strength. The composition of the team now matters not May and not 2 weeks ago for that matter. Just take it easy. The St. Louis fans today have been acting like the sensitive, insecure fan base.

  13. stlducks - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:44 PM

    phitinspin said the cards won this season bc the phillies were not at full strength ans that they were playing their AAA team..sounds like an excuse to me

    • halladaysbiceps - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:50 PM

      They were playing their AAA team after they clinched the division because they were resting players. That’s not an excuse. That’s fact. Is that the best you got?

      • spudchukar - Oct 4, 2011 at 2:52 PM

        Were it true it might be fact but it isn’t. One game the Phils rested many regular starters, in the rest they did not.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:51 PM

      Relax man…you are getting a bit too intense and seem a bit angry. What he said is somewhat true. Played without Utley early, only had Pence the last series when the took it down after they clinched. At the same time, Albert was out a series I believe and the Cards dealt with other injuries of their own. Furthermore, the Cards bullpen is much improved since the early series. The teams have completely different make-ups than the first couple series. And honestly, after the Phillies clinched they stopped playing for a week. Got swept by the Nationals and damn near by the Mets. Not an excuse just a fact.

  14. phightinsphan - Oct 3, 2011 at 8:57 PM

    The only thing you said that was accurate was your team lost one of the best pitchers in baseball. Although he is no where near the pitcher Halladay is. Much close to a Hamels or Oswalt. You havent played us healthly all year until Saturday. We played 7 games all year with our starting lineup. 7 games and we won 102. Since we wo. all 7 when we had everyone that 95 wins with at least one bench guy playing. This team is far better than 102 wins. The cards are a good team and if you had your ace right now this series would be the best on baseball but you don’t and Holiday is injured. You’ll be back in the playoffs. You just won’t be leaving this series this year.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 3, 2011 at 9:00 PM

      Adam Wainwright is really good. He is up there in the Halladay class. Not for longevity but over the course of the past couple seasons.

      • halladaysbiceps - Oct 3, 2011 at 9:05 PM

        The Wainwright injury killed the Cards this year. I agree that if he is healthy, the Cards win the NL Central. As far as putting him into Halladay’s class, I respectfully disagree. Adam is a very good pitcher, but doesn’t have the fortitude of a Halladay. I only put Lincecum, Verlander and King Felix in Halladay’s league.

      • thefalcon123 - Oct 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM

        Wainwright: 19 wins, 2.63 ERA, 233 IP, 212 K, 66 BB
        Halladay: 17 wins, 2.709 ERA, 239 IP, 208 K, 35 BB

        Wainwright: 20 wins, 2.42 ERA, 230 IP, 213 K, 56 BB
        Halladay: 21 wins, 2.44 ERA, 250 IP, 219 K, 30 BB

        Don’t get me wrong here, Halladay is better. But Wainwright is absolutely in the same “class”.

      • sasquash20 - Oct 4, 2011 at 3:04 AM

        Wainwright is a stud. This is a silly debate.

  15. phightinsphan - Oct 3, 2011 at 9:06 PM

    I’ll agree with that. He had an incredible 2010. Numbers were almost identical to Halladays. And he is young still. The cards healthy are the second best team in the nl. Their problem is injuries. We also have jnjurh problems. The difference is we are still an elite team regardless and now we are completely healthy for the firag time all year.

    • cintiphil - Oct 4, 2011 at 9:41 AM

      We see Wainwright here a lot. He is is good as anyone I have seen, including Halladay, Lee, Oswalt and Hamels. The only pitcher I like better than Wainwright is Verlander.

  16. phightinsphan - Oct 3, 2011 at 9:13 PM

    I take King Felix off the list and put Sabatjia on it. Felix number arent as good and he’s like 25. Halladay’s been doing this since he was in high school. Sabathia’s numbers are not as good either but he’s a horse. Man is a mschkne and averages 18 or19 wins in the past 4 or 5 years with a respectable era and k total. Innings pitched are always 230 plus. He has tl be j. The top tier with that type of longevity. He’s only 10 wins in his career less than Roy and 3 years younger than him.

    • sasquash20 - Oct 4, 2011 at 3:12 AM

      King Felix is a stud as well. He had a down season this year with over 200 innings, over 200 strike outs, and a 3.46 era. Is he Doc, not there yet but he is only 25. In 2009 he had a era of 2.49, over 235 inn, and over 200 strike outs, in 2010 he had an era of 2.27, over 245 inn, and over 200 strike outs. I’m willing to bet his win number would double if he pitched for a good team.

    • sasquash20 - Oct 4, 2011 at 3:14 AM

      King Felix is very much like CC but younger. They are both studs.

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