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	<title>Comments on: Rafael Palmeiro: 3000 hits was &#8220;a nightmare&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: kirkdouglasblog</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/04/rafael-palmiero-3000-hits-was-a-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-205724</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 02:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Detroit Michael, you said;

&quot;...I would not be so fast to say that Palmeiro will always be kept out of the Hall of Fame.&quot;

I&#039;m afraid I must respectfully &amp; regretfully disagree with your opinion that Palmeiro might one day be HOF inducted.  And please, consider my inclusion of the word &quot;regretful&quot;, because I think he belongs in it.  Hands-down first ballot too.

Sadly, even before the congressional hearing and the now infamous finger wagging denial of steroid use, there was article after article written over the years that questioned Palmeiro&#039;s HOF qualifications.  The writers seemed biased and stacked against him, even as his career numbers grew to be incredible and nearing top-10 all-time status, in numerous statistical categories.

Writers would claim &quot;in Texas, he is/was overshadowed by Pudge, Juan Gonzolez (a joke), Nolan Ryan&quot;, etc, &quot;is too quiet in the clubhouse therefore not a great &quot;let&#039;s get-em fired-up&quot; team leader.&quot;  In Baltimore it was, &quot;overshadowed by Cal Ripkin, Jr.&quot;, and the same &quot;too quiet a team leader&quot;, he&#039;s never been &quot;T-H-E GUY&quot; thing.  Heck, there were even ESPN talk show short-segments on this topic of &quot;is Palmeiro HOF worthy&quot; garbage.

I witnessed these articles and stories coming year-after-year, even as Palmeiro&#039;s career stats began to pile-up to incredible heights, and he had a LOT left in the tank.  The writer&#039;s almost seemed to dread that Palmeriro&#039;s number COULDN&#039;T be ignored, and NEVER mentioned he was a clean-cut, low-key, stay-out-of--trouble, lead-by-quiet-example, play-everyday, non-brash, humble professional in every-aspect player.

Then came the positive steroid test results.  No matter that Palmeiro had NEVER been in, or given baseball any trouble by making outlandish comments or belittling other players.  Benefit of the doubt was never given this quiet professional, who never showed nothing but being consistently great, year-after-year, for so long.

He belongs in, and I think this man has been rail-roaded by the media, and worse, black-balled by his fellow players via their union for blowing the whistle on the TRUTH of Miguel Tejada, of whom later down the road, PROVED Palmeiro&#039;s claims to be 100% accurate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Detroit Michael, you said;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I would not be so fast to say that Palmeiro will always be kept out of the Hall of Fame.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid I must respectfully &amp; regretfully disagree with your opinion that Palmeiro might one day be HOF inducted.  And please, consider my inclusion of the word &#8220;regretful&#8221;, because I think he belongs in it.  Hands-down first ballot too.</p>
<p>Sadly, even before the congressional hearing and the now infamous finger wagging denial of steroid use, there was article after article written over the years that questioned Palmeiro&#8217;s HOF qualifications.  The writers seemed biased and stacked against him, even as his career numbers grew to be incredible and nearing top-10 all-time status, in numerous statistical categories.</p>
<p>Writers would claim &#8220;in Texas, he is/was overshadowed by Pudge, Juan Gonzolez (a joke), Nolan Ryan&#8221;, etc, &#8220;is too quiet in the clubhouse therefore not a great &#8220;let&#8217;s get-em fired-up&#8221; team leader.&#8221;  In Baltimore it was, &#8220;overshadowed by Cal Ripkin, Jr.&#8221;, and the same &#8220;too quiet a team leader&#8221;, he&#8217;s never been &#8220;T-H-E GUY&#8221; thing.  Heck, there were even ESPN talk show short-segments on this topic of &#8220;is Palmeiro HOF worthy&#8221; garbage.</p>
<p>I witnessed these articles and stories coming year-after-year, even as Palmeiro&#8217;s career stats began to pile-up to incredible heights, and he had a LOT left in the tank.  The writer&#8217;s almost seemed to dread that Palmeriro&#8217;s number COULDN&#8217;T be ignored, and NEVER mentioned he was a clean-cut, low-key, stay-out-of&#8211;trouble, lead-by-quiet-example, play-everyday, non-brash, humble professional in every-aspect player.</p>
<p>Then came the positive steroid test results.  No matter that Palmeiro had NEVER been in, or given baseball any trouble by making outlandish comments or belittling other players.  Benefit of the doubt was never given this quiet professional, who never showed nothing but being consistently great, year-after-year, for so long.</p>
<p>He belongs in, and I think this man has been rail-roaded by the media, and worse, black-balled by his fellow players via their union for blowing the whistle on the TRUTH of Miguel Tejada, of whom later down the road, PROVED Palmeiro&#8217;s claims to be 100% accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Detroit Michael</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/04/rafael-palmiero-3000-hits-was-a-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-204303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Detroit Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It does seem reasonable to me for the baseball writers to distinguish eventually between Palmerio and Manny Ramirez, who failed MLB-sponsored tests for performance-enhancing drugs, and guys who appear to have taken steroids when there was no attempt at enforcing a steroids ban.  Granted, the writers don&#039;t seem to be making that distinction yet, but I wouldn&#039;t compared Palmeiro to Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, etc.

Also, Craig, I would not be so fast to say that Palmeiro will always be kept out of the Hall of Fame.  Look how long it took Bid McPhee to be inducted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does seem reasonable to me for the baseball writers to distinguish eventually between Palmerio and Manny Ramirez, who failed MLB-sponsored tests for performance-enhancing drugs, and guys who appear to have taken steroids when there was no attempt at enforcing a steroids ban.  Granted, the writers don&#8217;t seem to be making that distinction yet, but I wouldn&#8217;t compared Palmeiro to Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, etc.</p>
<p>Also, Craig, I would not be so fast to say that Palmeiro will always be kept out of the Hall of Fame.  Look how long it took Bid McPhee to be inducted.</p>
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		<title>By: theonlynolan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theonlynolan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, someone has to vote and the players haven&#039;t elected anyone in years.  Not only that but in 1936 there were no players in the HOF to vote so the precedent was set. The failure lies with the hall of fame who haven&#039;t addressed the problem and left the writers to sort it out with no clear directions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, someone has to vote and the players haven&#8217;t elected anyone in years.  Not only that but in 1936 there were no players in the HOF to vote so the precedent was set. The failure lies with the hall of fame who haven&#8217;t addressed the problem and left the writers to sort it out with no clear directions.</p>
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		<title>By: acerob2002</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[acerob2002]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand why baseball writers should even have a say in who gets into the hall of fame.  I mean what have they done to have earned that right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why baseball writers should even have a say in who gets into the hall of fame.  I mean what have they done to have earned that right?</p>
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		<title>By: rips08</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rips08]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too bad you aren&#039;t a baseball writer that gets to vote on that.  They are all still too busy pretending they are shocked at all the steroids in baseball even though they covered it everyday and it was obvious.  I think most fans are over this even if they cared about steroids in baseball to begin with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad you aren&#8217;t a baseball writer that gets to vote on that.  They are all still too busy pretending they are shocked at all the steroids in baseball even though they covered it everyday and it was obvious.  I think most fans are over this even if they cared about steroids in baseball to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed.  It&#039;s ridiculous to think that in 20 years, when I take my grandson to the Hall, it may not have Bonds, Clemens, and many other deserving players of this era.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  It&#8217;s ridiculous to think that in 20 years, when I take my grandson to the Hall, it may not have Bonds, Clemens, and many other deserving players of this era.</p>
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		<title>By: theonlynolan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theonlynolan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems like the baseball hall of fame will be on the brink of irrelevancy in a few years. The best thing that Cooperstown and MLB can do is get together on this and advise the writers to vote for the best players of this &quot;tainted&quot; era regardless of steroid usage or suspicion of usage. Put a sign in the hall acknowledging that steroid abuse was a problem and let fans of the game decide who to celebrate. A hall of fame missing arguably the best pitcher and hitter ever to play the sport is incomplete at best and completely irrelevant at worst.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like the baseball hall of fame will be on the brink of irrelevancy in a few years. The best thing that Cooperstown and MLB can do is get together on this and advise the writers to vote for the best players of this &#8220;tainted&#8221; era regardless of steroid usage or suspicion of usage. Put a sign in the hall acknowledging that steroid abuse was a problem and let fans of the game decide who to celebrate. A hall of fame missing arguably the best pitcher and hitter ever to play the sport is incomplete at best and completely irrelevant at worst.</p>
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		<title>By: halladaysbiceps</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[halladaysbiceps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only thing that was &quot;harder&quot; for Palmiero than 3000 hits was when he was doing Viagra commercials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that was &#8220;harder&#8221; for Palmiero than 3000 hits was when he was doing Viagra commercials.</p>
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