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Report: Cubs ask permission to talk to Red Sox GM Theo Epstein

Oct 4, 2011, 8:10 PM EDT

Tom Werner, Theo Epstein AP

The Boston Globe’s Dan Shaughnessy reports that the Cubs have officially asked permission to speak to Red Sox GM Theo Epstein.

According to Shaughnessy, there were meetings at Fenway Park this afternoon regarding the team’s response to the request.

Epstein is under contract for another year, so the Red Sox would have the right to refuse the request. Or, as the Globe’s Peter Abraham notes, the Red Sox could agree to such a request with the stipulation that they receive compensation in the event that the Cubs and Epstein reach an agreement.

The Cubs are also thought to have some interest in Red Sox assistant GM Ben Cherington. Complicating things there is that Cherington would almost certainly step in for the Red Sox if Epstein leaves.

A source close to Epstein said earlier this week that it was 50-50 whether Theo would leave the Red Sox.

  1. proudlycanadian - Oct 4, 2011 at 8:34 PM

    If Epstein joins the Cubs, does Shaughnessy plan to apply for the job of GM of the Red Sox?

    • baseballisboring - Oct 4, 2011 at 8:45 PM

      Now that you’ve put that thought in my head, I’m going to have nightmares til the GM thing is resolved…

      • Old Gator - Oct 4, 2011 at 9:26 PM

        Been there, done that, and my worst nightmares came true.

      • foreverchipper10 - Oct 5, 2011 at 10:46 AM


  2. bloodysock - Oct 4, 2011 at 8:35 PM

    Who says daytime dramas are dead. I guess As The Red Sox Turn has replaced the recently cancelled soaps.

    • proudlycanadian - Oct 4, 2011 at 8:41 PM

      Well said.

  3. sknut - Oct 4, 2011 at 9:03 PM

    I can’t believe this is happening, not sure why he would trade one chaos (high expectations) for another ( haven’t won in a billion years).

  4. jamie54 - Oct 4, 2011 at 9:34 PM

    Goody, now he gets another chance at JD Drew!

  5. apgreco - Oct 4, 2011 at 11:40 PM

    Why would Theo make this move? So that he has the opportunity to go down in history as the GM who broke the two longest winless streaks in history. 86 years for the red sox and 103 years for the cubs. That is why.

  6. bigleagues - Oct 4, 2011 at 11:51 PM

    Personally, I wouldn’t walk away if I were Theo. But who knows maybe Lucchino has begun flexing his muscles again and Theo has had enough of the interference.

    I think it was very interesting that Ben Cherington (no Allard Baird) was included in all of the season review and Francona meetings last week.

    In other news, John Henry issued a series of Tweets tonight just before the NY/Det game. He exchanged a few tweets an repeated some of what the Red Sox have already stated:

    John_W_Henry John W. Henry
    We got the manager’s search right eight years ago with Tito and Maddon as finalists. We’ll secure a great manager this time as well.

    Anyway the rest of his twittering can be found here:!/John_W_Henry

    • bigleagues - Oct 5, 2011 at 12:01 AM

      And I’ll give him some credit because he actually answered this shmucko:

      @John_W_Henry FRAUD, You fall down the stairs the day the Sox can the manager of 8 seasons ? Nobody believes you.

  7. bigharold - Oct 4, 2011 at 11:56 PM

    If Epstein jumps ship at this point that would be pretty gutless.

    Whether you believe that the RS merely need some tweaking or a serous overhaul the perception is that they are in disarray. Epstein leaving would only compound that notion exponentially.

    I’ve never thought Epstein was nearly as good as his press but he’s suppose to be a leader of that organization. Leaving now would be the exact opposite of leadership. On the other hand, .. I’d bet he still has that gorilla suit so it should be that hard to duck out of Boston.

  8. pisano - Oct 5, 2011 at 8:52 AM

    If he’s smart he’ll stay right where he’s at, that is, if they want him. The White Sox and most other teams would probably hold him accountable for his free agent moves, where Boston didn’t, they seemed to blamed Francona, which will come back to haunt them. Boston should have let Theo walk and not have forced Francona out, which in reality is what they did.

  9. Amadeus - Oct 5, 2011 at 11:21 AM

    Who would want to hire the putz that signed Lackey and Crawford and blew 200 mill+ on the worst deals in recent memory? Another sports media creation.

    • bigleagues - Oct 5, 2011 at 12:01 PM

      And perhaps your point of view is yet another knee jerk opinion, absent all the facts.

  10. bigleagues - Oct 5, 2011 at 12:08 PM

    I’m now convinced that many of the anti-Theo commenters:

    a) are not Red Sox fans.

    b) are Red Sox fans who baseball consciousness began circa 2004 and thus never truly experienced the anguish, humility and general feeling of being on the dark side of destiny.

    c) have ZERO comprehension of what is what like to be a Red Sox fan before Theo and The Trio.

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