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It’s a beautiful day in Milwaukee, so naturally the roof at Miller Park is closed

Oct 7, 2011, 2:00 PM EDT

Miller Park

As we speak, it is in the upper 70s in Milwaukee.  At game time this afternoon it will be around 76 degrees. The skies are as clear as a bell. It should remain gorgeous throughout the evening.  Indeed, the Milwaukee weather is expected to be spectacular though at least next Wednesday.

So naturally baseball has decreed that the retractable roof at Miller Park be closed for this afternoon’s deciding Game 5 between the Brewers and the Dbacks.

According to Tom Haudricourt, baseball says it must be so because they want conditions to be “consistent with the first four games” of the series.  Because that’s what baseball is all about. Absolutely no weather, sunshine, breezes or variances of any kind.  If God had expected baseball games to be played to the open air He wouldn’t have created domes.  And no, those giant motors that retract the roof at Miller Park are not His creations. They were forged in the fires of Hades.

I’m sorry, but can anyone provide me with anything approaching a rational explanation here? MLB?  If you have a better statement than “we want the conditions to be the same,” I’ll run it.  Preferably one that would hold up if, say, the Brewers had played their road games someplace besides Arizona.

  1. grapes911 - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:05 PM

    I understand not opening it during the game as the home team could play around and use conditions to their advantage. This is asinine though. They both have to play a full game in the same conditions.

    I’m curious what they would have done had the dome been open in the beginning of the series due to good weather, but if the forecast called for snow today.

    • channingtaintum - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:11 PM

      4:00 start time, clear day in the fall. In Miller Park, that means the players either have the sun to look right into, or shadows obscuring everything else. The sun sets directly over the right field opening, it’s a real pain in the ass for the hitters.

      • uberfatty - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:20 PM

        By 4:00 the sun is below where the open roof would allow it to come through. Any shadows are a result of the window panels above the 400 level seating along the 1st base line, and that is there regardless of the roof being open or closed. Was outside for lunch today and the weather is just fantastic. 100% agreement with Craig here about how ridiculous it is that the roof is closed.

      • dlevalley - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM

        GOD FORBID PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES GET SUN IN THEIR EYES!!!!

        PANIC!!!1!!1!!

      • hotkarlsandwich - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:48 PM

        Apparently Tony LaRussa isn’t the only one complaining about start times and the position of the sun and shadows…

  2. JB (the original) - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM

    That’s easy. It’s because Bud Selig lives with his head up his ass, where it’s always dark and unsettled.

  3. Chris Fiorentino - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:09 PM

    Wouldn’t there be shadow problems if they left the roof open?

    • uberfatty - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:21 PM

      See my comment above.

    • skipperxc - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM

      The big problems with the shadows are with the window panels between the roof and the top of the stands (the big arc-shaped things in the picture). What they really need are shades for those somehow.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:28 PM

        Are they in the batter’s eye though?

      • clydeserra - Oct 7, 2011 at 3:30 PM

        we are at least five years away form the perfecting the technology to block light that comes through windows.

  4. thefalcon123 - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:10 PM

    “we want the conditions to be the same”…except that in baseball, far more than any other sport, conditions aren’t the same.

    Can you imagine if other sports took MLB’s lead and changed and allowed different dimensions of their playing fields? If Soldier field were a high scoring stadium because the field was only 80 yards long or if Madison Square Garden were a low scoring stadium because the rims were 14 feet off the ground and only 13 inches in diameter? But partially offset due to their 17 inch 3 point line?

  5. spudchukar - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:13 PM

    Let’s see the game in the Central Time Zone starts at 4:00 PM, and the game in the Eastern Time Zone starts 8:30 PM. Yeah that makes sense.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:17 PM

      You didn’t really expect TV to put the AZ-MIL game on in prime time over the Phillies-Cardinals, did you? I mean, shit, even a blind squirrel would know to put the Phillies/Cards on at 8:30pm.

      • b7p19 - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:23 PM

        Again with the squirrel? Let it go!

      • jasonforb - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:28 PM

        But would Angel Hernandez while watching a blind squirrel?

      • paperlions - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:41 PM

        Damn Philly fans blinded our squirrel! Fuckers! This means war!

      • spudchukar - Oct 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM

        Yeah, look what happened to Victorino after he dissed our Clydesdales.

      • cur68 - Oct 7, 2011 at 3:31 PM

        Hey ‘Lions; y’all named that rodent yet? If not, allow me to suggest “Lil Tony”.

      • paperlions - Oct 7, 2011 at 4:19 PM

        cur, what have squirrels done to you that would make you suggest such a thing?

  6. mattintoledo - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:15 PM

    Like the rest of us, MLB must be sick of all the hand-wringing and mystification at the difficulty of hitting a baseball that has passed through shadows. I have no idea what the TBS guys will talk about now. Probably Robinson Cano.

    Also, has there ever been an MLB explanation that hasn’t just caused further confusion?

  7. hk62 - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:21 PM

    How long have you all been following baseball? Are you forgetting all the crap related to the Astros closing the roof in 2004?

    MLB is NOT going to let any team decide roof situations ever again in the post season – the fact that Haudricourt (Brewers were in the NLC then) brought it up and then you spread it Craig kind of says you(and he) have a very limited memory! LOL.

    • uberfatty - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:24 PM

      …or MLB could just force the roof open all gme without the Brewers having any say in the matter. This has nothing to do with in-game changes.

      • hk62 - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:34 PM

        Neither did the Astros in 2004 – they wanted it closed and there was no weather/fan comfort reason to have it closed – MLB said must be open and HOU lost – outcome, MLB decides. And they decide at start time for the first game at the retratable roof stadium – and it stays that way whole series.

        This was never a question folks – it had to be closed for game 1 so its closed for all games in this series and its not a 1 game decision – Bud’s not repeating the mistake with his former team.

      • uberfatty - Oct 7, 2011 at 3:08 PM

        How is it a “mistake” to go game by game? This isn’t a team requesting the roof be open/closed for competitive reasons, it’s common sense.

    • desertpirate1146 - Oct 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM

      MLB decided to take the decision away from the the home team when the D-Backs first made the playoffs. The roof was forced to be open by MLB for game 7 of the ’01 World Series even though it was raining. I don’t think the roof was open for every game of the series, so no idea why they would not open it in Milwaukee tonight. The roof at Chase was closed both games this week. Tuesday we did have a bad dust storm, and heavy rain, but Wednesday was beautiful. Couldn’t believe the roof was closed for that one.

  8. mojosmagic - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:32 PM

    The village idiots are at it again . This Bud’s for you.

  9. mcs7584 - Oct 7, 2011 at 3:54 PM

    If MLB was concerned about consistency or, hell, even integrity, it would get rid of rogue umpires like, well, you know who they are, and would implement a rule that states playoff teams cannot start pitchers on short rest or use their SPs out of the bullpen on elimination games. That, to me, skews the outcomes of the games, more than the weather, especially on a day when the weather is a non-factor.

    But, do we really expect MLB to do the right, or even reasonable, thing?

  10. ditto65 - Oct 7, 2011 at 4:30 PM

    Using that logic all of the Tigers/Yankees games should have been played in a Tropical Storm.

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