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Stat of the Day: Alex Rodriguez’s postseason production

Oct 7, 2011, 12:48 PM EDT

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Alex Rodriguez is getting a ton of criticism for his poor ALDS performance against the Tigers and the usual talk about how he isn’t “clutch” in the playoffs is once again very loud, so it’s worth noting how his career numbers in the postseason stack up to, say, Derek Jeter‘s career numbers in the postseason:

Batting average:
Rodriguez – .277
Jeter – .307

On-base percentage:
Rodriguez – .386
Jeter – .374

Slugging percentage:
Rodriguez – .498
Jeter – .465

OPS:
Rodriguez – .884
Jeter – .839

Runs/RBIs per game:
Rodriguez – 1.22
Jeter – 1.09

To recap: For their playoff careers Jeter leads Rodriguez in batting average by a solid margin, but Rodriguez leads Jeter in on-base percentage, slugging percentage, OPS, and combined runs and RBIs per game.

Just saying.

  1. Chris Fiorentino - Oct 7, 2011 at 12:50 PM

    Missed one…

    Rings:
    Rodriguez – 1
    Jeter – 5

    Just saying.

    • alang3131982 - Oct 7, 2011 at 12:53 PM

      Right…switch jeter and AROD earlier in their careers and, what do you know, that number would be reversed….

    • zakharovsa - Oct 7, 2011 at 12:54 PM

      Yes, it’s A-Rod’s fault that he wasn’t on the the late-90’s Yankees teams. This is a joke right?

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 7, 2011 at 12:55 PM

      Rings:

      Luis Sojo – 5
      Ted Williams – 0

      • bigxrob - Oct 7, 2011 at 12:58 PM

        I’ve been pounding the Louis Sojo drum for years. Glad someone finally agrees with me.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM

        I have to admit it’s a reference from FJM when discussing whether Maury Wills was a HoF’er or not:

        three World Series rings

        This guy [Luis Sojo] has four. Point: nobody. Also, I wouldn’t hype his postseason success too much, since Wills went .244/.289/.282 (!) in 78 postseason AB.

        Someone later in the comments mentions he might have 5 due to playing for the Jays in ’93

        http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/08/bridge-too-far.html

      • aceshigh11 - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM

        LOL. Luis Sojo for the HoF, NOW.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM

      LOL I love getting you stat heads in a lather. Relax boys…I added “Just saying”. I thought that made everything OK :D

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM

        I should have known it was you Fiorentino!

        Sorry, fighting off all these damn trolls has depleted my sarcasm detector. Carry on

      • lukeslice - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:28 PM

        WITH ALDO RESPECT!!!

      • paperlions - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:47 PM

        Aldo Nova?

    • uuddlrlrbastart - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:07 PM

      It’s very selfish of Jeter to only win that one ring all by himself with A-Rod on his team.

  2. bigxrob - Oct 7, 2011 at 12:51 PM

    You forgot the “clutch” stat. Jeter has to be killing it in that category.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 7, 2011 at 12:59 PM

      Career RISP:

      DJ – .302/.395/.425
      AR – .300/.401/.542

      High Leverage situations:
      DJ – .316/.396/.430
      AR – .302/.388/.581

      • bigxrob - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:10 PM

        No Church, i mean the actual “clutch” stat. One that incorporates intangibles, leadership and the like.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:19 PM

        I apologize but I’ve been pouring over my spreadsheets and I can’t find this word “intangibles”. Do you mean HR? Well that’s clearly Arod? What about SLG% or OBP%? Both Arod.

        This “intangibles”, does not compute
        :)

      • paperlions - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:49 PM

        Only tangible things can find their way into spread sheets….if you could collect data on it, it wouldn’t be intangible….duuuuuhhhh.

      • bigxrob - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:53 PM

        hmm Paper, I can’t tell if you’re trying to be funny, or if you’re being dense.

  3. channingtaintum - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM

    Boy-oh-boy, you guys are reaching ESPN levels with the Yanks topics.

    Give it a rest, they lost as a team, there’s 2 game 5’s today that I would MUCH rather read about, thanks.

  4. dailyrev - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:05 PM

    Whatever. I just thought it was a little bush for fans to boo him last night. Guy’s been beat up all season, probably hasn’t had a 100% healthy day at all. But with the $$$ he’s making he’s expected to play hurt and get on with it, so he tried. I’d boo his mgr. for keeping him in the cleanup spot, that was clearly a mistake (which had in fact been pointed out here and elsewhere even before the DLS started, so it’s not a matter of hindsight).

    I’ve lived in this city for 25 yrs., so I understand something about Yank fans, having been one myself. And today’s lesson is fairly simple: they lost to a marginally better team with marginally better/deeper starting pitching and an equally dangerous lineup. Interestingly, I think the Tiggers are going to have the identical problem with TX. But A-Rod is not the prime reason the Yanx fell.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:34 PM

      Who should have cleaned up? Everyone keeps saying ARod shouldn’t, but Tex was worse. Should they have suddenly stuck Jorge in the 4 hole? There were things that maybe could have been done differently (Andruw instead of Swisher last night perhaps?). Dropping ARod without having a viable replacement makes no sense. Torre learned that the hard way.

  5. cur68 - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:07 PM

    I’ve never understood the ARod love and I’ve never understood the hate, either. Less explicable though is how Jeets’ numbers constantly get overlooked when people start screaming about ARod. Its nice to see the side by side comparisons. Really, everyone, leave ARod alone, mm’kay?

    On a related note, has anyone heard from Len recently? I’m getting concerned. Look in clock towers, fast cars, and the bedrooms international women of mystery; he’s probably either preparing to get the Ultimate Revenge or drowning his sorrows in the superficial comforts of loose women and fast cars. S’what I’d do if I was Jack Bauer.

    • yankeesfanlen - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:56 PM

      Been busy writing an invisible post extolling the virtues of Girardi’s management acumen.

      • cur68 - Oct 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM

        Whew. There you are.

        Look, I know this feeling well. Watch your GM shell out zillions on “Talent”. See that talent heli-suck when it matters most, want to strangle everyone involved. Engage in rabid anti-GM/talentless player “Letters to the Sports Page Editor” diatribes.

        S’cool. You will live to see better times for the Yankees. Its virtually a guarantee. This might be what does it too. Time for a bit of an overhaul, a bit of tinkering, just a tweak here and there and they’ll be back like bad burrito.

        Meanwhile, we still have some baseball to engage in. Some awesome match ups to see. Lookin forward to it, no?

  6. Jason @ IIATMS - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:11 PM

    Ya know, the booing wasn’t JUST for ARod, but also for the whole team for not winning. Right or wrong, the fans were upset with the missed opportunities.

    Like you would be if it were your team.

    Of course, some really REALLY love to hate ARod, so there’s that. Bringin’ the crazy, nightly.

  7. jkb0162 - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:20 PM

    Both overpaid, both overrated

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:38 PM

      At this point I would have to say the guy is somewhat UNDERrated. To read the stories in the baseball world, the Yankees would still be better off with Cody Ransom at 3B. Can we at least acknowledge that he was playing with a post-op knee and sprained thumb and still made a bunch of nifty plays at 3B? No, he is not playing up to his contract (though he isn’t that far off), but blame the Steinbrenners for that. If someone offered me a salary that was double what I am worth I would take it, and so would you.

  8. mikeclyne1 - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:24 PM

    Take out that one awesome postseason in 2009 and what do you have for ARod’s great stats:
    AVG: .252
    OBP: .336
    SLG:.414
    OBPS: .750
    Runs/Rbi per game: .943

    Its a bunch of crap from the supposed #1 player in baseball!

    Just sayin

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:41 PM

      He hasn’t been the #1 player in baseball since ’07, and even then his numbers were declining. Good straw man argument though. Also bonus points for taking out 20% of his postseason AB’s and drawing conclusions off them.

      • mikeclyne1 - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:55 PM

        Was not trying to say he was #1 player in baseball…What I was trying to say was that he is #1 paid player in baseball, it should equate to top player, but often does not…

        Top Paid athletes in each sport in 2010
        Tiger Woods
        Lebron James
        Peyton Manning
        ARod
        Vincent Lecavalier

        I could argue that in 2010 all were top of their sport, but I have the most people to argue with ARod then any other person on that list…

      • Francisco (FC) - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM

        Well the problem with looking at post-season performance through multiple years is that unlike looking at a season’s worth of stats in which overall performance affects all the games and the final standings, each post-season is its own animal. There’s a point in discussing whether one great A-Rod postseason is enough to erase the disappointment of many many other A-Rod post-seasons.

        Is it really fair to tally up the stats as a whole since each individual post-season can only win THAT specific championship? If Jeter had more successful post-seasons was that a function of the teams he was on or was that a function of good consistent production?

        I’m not sure what comparing total post-season stats is supposed to tell you since the sample sizes tend to be low and in reality say very little about a player’s actual performance. Any player can go hot or cold in streaks. This is an acknowledged reality. Why are we according more value to smaller sample sizes in short stretches of baseball instead the longer more accurate regular seasons?

      • foreverchipper10 - Oct 7, 2011 at 5:03 PM

        Tiger Woods’ salary would be earnings/winnings (not to mention endoresements). It is not a steady salary that the PGA pays him like a player in either of the four major sports.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM

      Did you run Jeter’s numbers after taking out his best post-season as well?

      ARods numbers are still pretty good considering post-season ABs are usually against some of the best pitchers in baseball.

  9. lukeslice - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM

    come on gleeman you’re better than this. comparing slugging/OPS/RBIs per game between these 2 guys is apples to oranges. a-rod is a home run hitter…jeter is an average hitter (even when he was more in his prime he was NOT a HR hitter). of COURSE these splits are going to look like that!

    • zakharovsa - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM

      Explain the difference in OBP then?

      At worst they’re pretty much identical, at best A-Rod has an edge.

      • lukeslice - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:45 PM

        How many pitchers do you know that pitch around Jeter cuz he’s a huge threat? Would you have pitched to A-Rod in the 2009 post-season with Swisher or Posada hitting behind him?? Jeter’s always loved to swing at the first pitch and has never been an extreme on-base guy.

      • catsmeat - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:21 PM

        A-Rod has an edge? You must not have seen one of the approximately 40 million Ford commercials broadcast in New York this season. Now, Jeter? That guy has an Edge!

    • protectthishouse54 - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:09 PM

      I agree with you lukeslice. Why compare Jeter and ARod’s slugging? The stats may say one thing, but if we all (Yanks and non Yanks fans) take the “smell test” or the “eyeball test” we will probably all agree that Jeter has been much more useful in the playoffs over the course of his career. We’re watching all the games. Who needs stats when you watch all the games?

  10. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:51 PM

    Perhaps it would be more telling to see how postseason #’s compare to regular season #’s for each guy. Showing how they each deviate from their norm once they reach the big stage would be more telling.

  11. Old Gator - Oct 7, 2011 at 1:53 PM

    Stop confusing us with the facts. It was going to be A-Roid’s fault from the beginning of time. When the Ancient Old Ones set the stars in their courses and created life on Earth as a joke, they figured they’d cap it all off by making it A-Roid’s fault. And so it was. It was A-Roid’s fault during the series. It was A-Roid’s fault after the series. Generations to come will remember it as A-Roid’s fault.

    Pile up all the stats you want. There’s nothing you can do about it.

    • protectthishouse54 - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:10 PM

      It wouldn’t be his fault if he didn’t K with the bases loaded and 1 out.

    • Gamera the Brave - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:21 PM

      “…they figured they’d cap it all off by making it A-Roid’s fault.”
      Cap it all off?!?
      End of days, anyone?
      Gator, you know something we don’t?…

      • Old Gator - Oct 7, 2011 at 5:22 PM

        Yes. I know that Harold Camping counts on his fingers and toes.

  12. aceshigh11 - Oct 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM

    The Yankees had SO MANY chances last night, it’s not even funny.

    The Tigers didn’t even play particularly well…the pitching was clutch for sure, but they put themselves into some HAIRY situations that the Yankees just couldn’t capitalize on.

    The whole offense blew it, not just A-Rod.

  13. heynerdlinger - Oct 7, 2011 at 3:12 PM

    I’m not passing judgment either way on this, but the contrast between the two players’ last at-bats is probably one reason why fans love Jeter and hate on Rodriguez. In the 8th, down a run with a man on first, DJ hit a fly ball to deep right that was 10 feet from putting the Yankees ahead. In the ninth, ARod struck out with a weak wave at a high fastball.

    If ARod had instead driven a ball to deep left that was run down and caught on the warning track, I don’t think we’re having this discussion. It that contrast that sticks in the minds of fans and solidifies their opinions of these two players.

  14. Detroit Michael - Oct 7, 2011 at 4:49 PM

    In case anyone else is curious, A-Rod’s batting statistics as a Yankee (so ignoring his Seattle post-season games) drop a bit but it doesn’t change Aaron’s narrative materially.

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