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		<title>By: Francisco (FC)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francisco (FC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You realize that&#039;s an impostor right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize that&#8217;s an impostor right?</p>
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		<title>By: gogigantos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gogigantos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love a man who manages to reject reality and substitute one of his own making better suited to what he desires, respect and envy you I do
on the other hand, it is a clear sign of delusion when a man cannot adjust his reality to the evidence at hand, a consistent failing &#039;ceps
doh,,, hahahahahaha,, fake little t hahahahahahah,, 
clearly baiter striving for master status]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love a man who manages to reject reality and substitute one of his own making better suited to what he desires, respect and envy you I do<br />
on the other hand, it is a clear sign of delusion when a man cannot adjust his reality to the evidence at hand, a consistent failing &#8216;ceps<br />
doh,,, hahahahahaha,, fake little t hahahahahahah,,<br />
clearly baiter striving for master status</p>
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		<title>By: gogigantos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gogigantos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this thread may still be active, or not
have been away and just want to throw my three cents into the fountain,,,
I find my joy over the Phightins falling a bit over the top and irrational given my long distaste for Mr. TLR.  But, I am sure I know why I feel this way. 
 
I love the mid continent match ups.  To hell with both coasts for this post season.  After the close wins of the NLDS, the explosion of runs in Milwaukee this weekend was a treat, and that they really don&#039;t much like each other is a bonus.  Go Brew Crew, stuff TLR&#039;s shit back up his shorts and have fun doing it.  If the Red Birds move on, and even win it all, OK, fine with that story too, just don&#039;t like it when TLR wins.

The whole Phillie story got to be tiresome.  Wasn&#039;t it the same story last year?  They were the best, unbeatable team of the ages with pitching not to be beaten in a short series or a long season.  Well,,,, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, shit happens in this game we all love.  Last year they ran into a hot buzzsaw of pitching, and the Giants will continue to be a buzzsaw.  They contend for sure.  They win is up to the Gods of health and offense,,, something Sabes doesn&#039;t understand.   This year the Phils just stopped hitting when it mattered, or was it another hot buzzsaw that pitched just a bit better when it counted?  Whatever, they gave us great post season ball, and that is a gift I will always love this generation of Phillies for, thank you.

Now
there is the issue of the Phucking Phils Phans here,,,,
long you all have been Phucking Phucks, and one in particular is fond of calling names and bullying whenever he is crossed, his opinion is not to be trifled with, political or on the diamond, his analysis is undoubtedly holy,,, holier than us all spewing and opining what he will and shouting down those who disagree or care to share an opinion on a topic he deems unworthy,, though the same he some to say yesterday,,,,, 

I recommend for your torn biceps that you hoist a heavier beer, in a larger bottle and of heavier content and preferably a stout, better to suit you chosen name,,,,  forever I am glad that having been called a &#039;loser&#039; &#039;douche&#039; &#039;idiot&#039; &#039;fool&#039; and many names that just aren&#039;t civil is rewarded with your order for humble pie,, &#039;ceps, congrats that you stand, sit, and eat it,, &quot;shoe leather sir, yes,, a ha, and how would you like your hat served to you?.  and will you be having desert?  aaah,, pie, crow you say, well, we have humble pie if you&#039;ll have it,,,, and would you like ice cream with that???&quot;   
but don&#039;t forget that you shouted many down from on high, mighty intolerant and loud,,
still
you and your ilk are a bit not quite right,,, from on high you called us fools for wondering why the games must be played out,,,, I won&#039;t cut and paste, has been done, but man o man,,, you and your Phillie bros were a large dose of shit that has righteously come down upon you,,,,  I do hope it really wasn&#039;t you and your cabal that cursed your team,, the baseball Gods have their own reasons I am sure and, like our own God, if you so believe, have more to do than pay attention to what one lowly man, or a few low men, has to do or say here today,,,
all said for now
go Detroit vs. Milwaukee  heartland of our land 
hope to see you next season when the Giants return to score enough runs to support a pitching staff for the ages that stays healthy for another epic season on the mound, and into the crap shoot that is October,,, :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this thread may still be active, or not<br />
have been away and just want to throw my three cents into the fountain,,,<br />
I find my joy over the Phightins falling a bit over the top and irrational given my long distaste for Mr. TLR.  But, I am sure I know why I feel this way. </p>
<p>I love the mid continent match ups.  To hell with both coasts for this post season.  After the close wins of the NLDS, the explosion of runs in Milwaukee this weekend was a treat, and that they really don&#8217;t much like each other is a bonus.  Go Brew Crew, stuff TLR&#8217;s shit back up his shorts and have fun doing it.  If the Red Birds move on, and even win it all, OK, fine with that story too, just don&#8217;t like it when TLR wins.</p>
<p>The whole Phillie story got to be tiresome.  Wasn&#8217;t it the same story last year?  They were the best, unbeatable team of the ages with pitching not to be beaten in a short series or a long season.  Well,,,, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, shit happens in this game we all love.  Last year they ran into a hot buzzsaw of pitching, and the Giants will continue to be a buzzsaw.  They contend for sure.  They win is up to the Gods of health and offense,,, something Sabes doesn&#8217;t understand.   This year the Phils just stopped hitting when it mattered, or was it another hot buzzsaw that pitched just a bit better when it counted?  Whatever, they gave us great post season ball, and that is a gift I will always love this generation of Phillies for, thank you.</p>
<p>Now<br />
there is the issue of the Phucking Phils Phans here,,,,<br />
long you all have been Phucking Phucks, and one in particular is fond of calling names and bullying whenever he is crossed, his opinion is not to be trifled with, political or on the diamond, his analysis is undoubtedly holy,,, holier than us all spewing and opining what he will and shouting down those who disagree or care to share an opinion on a topic he deems unworthy,, though the same he some to say yesterday,,,,, </p>
<p>I recommend for your torn biceps that you hoist a heavier beer, in a larger bottle and of heavier content and preferably a stout, better to suit you chosen name,,,,  forever I am glad that having been called a &#8216;loser&#8217; &#8216;douche&#8217; &#8216;idiot&#8217; &#8216;fool&#8217; and many names that just aren&#8217;t civil is rewarded with your order for humble pie,, &#8216;ceps, congrats that you stand, sit, and eat it,, &#8220;shoe leather sir, yes,, a ha, and how would you like your hat served to you?.  and will you be having desert?  aaah,, pie, crow you say, well, we have humble pie if you&#8217;ll have it,,,, and would you like ice cream with that???&#8221;<br />
but don&#8217;t forget that you shouted many down from on high, mighty intolerant and loud,,<br />
still<br />
you and your ilk are a bit not quite right,,, from on high you called us fools for wondering why the games must be played out,,,, I won&#8217;t cut and paste, has been done, but man o man,,, you and your Phillie bros were a large dose of shit that has righteously come down upon you,,,,  I do hope it really wasn&#8217;t you and your cabal that cursed your team,, the baseball Gods have their own reasons I am sure and, like our own God, if you so believe, have more to do than pay attention to what one lowly man, or a few low men, has to do or say here today,,,<br />
all said for now<br />
go Detroit vs. Milwaukee  heartland of our land<br />
hope to see you next season when the Giants return to score enough runs to support a pitching staff for the ages that stays healthy for another epic season on the mound, and into the crap shoot that is October,,, <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jonny 5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny 5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, sometimes things just happen by accident too. Like your conception. If only pappy could have reached that top drawer then we&#039;d be able to comment without having you pick pick us apart for no real apparent reason. You sir are the King of stating weak bullshit, sorry for stepping on your toes there bicepts. Now run along and get back to your normal douchebaggery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sometimes things just happen by accident too. Like your conception. If only pappy could have reached that top drawer then we&#8217;d be able to comment without having you pick pick us apart for no real apparent reason. You sir are the King of stating weak bullshit, sorry for stepping on your toes there bicepts. Now run along and get back to your normal douchebaggery.</p>
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		<title>By: halladaybicepts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[halladaybicepts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty sorry of you to reply to a comment, and not actually reply. You simply stated some weak bullshit.

That&#039;s comment hijacking. 

Now go take a shower, and use that towel around your head to dry off...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty sorry of you to reply to a comment, and not actually reply. You simply stated some weak bullshit.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s comment hijacking. </p>
<p>Now go take a shower, and use that towel around your head to dry off&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny 5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny 5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d just like to take this moment to thank Ruben Amaro for giving this team the best shot he could at a World Series title. Thanks Ruben.

I&#039;d also like to thank the entire team for giving their best while enduring criticism and high expectations. Also, that effing squirrel can go go to hell.

How ironic is it that LaRussa didn&#039;t make a pitching change that last game? I was waiting. The Phillies were waiting. Did he learn something? Will PL cut him some slack? I hope not.

Anyway, it was an awesome season that built up some expectations, understandably so. I hope this shows people that the baseball gods are not fair. Not fair at all. Don&#039;t worry, the baseball Gods and I have an agreement. 2012 will be different for the Phills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just like to take this moment to thank Ruben Amaro for giving this team the best shot he could at a World Series title. Thanks Ruben.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to thank the entire team for giving their best while enduring criticism and high expectations. Also, that effing squirrel can go go to hell.</p>
<p>How ironic is it that LaRussa didn&#8217;t make a pitching change that last game? I was waiting. The Phillies were waiting. Did he learn something? Will PL cut him some slack? I hope not.</p>
<p>Anyway, it was an awesome season that built up some expectations, understandably so. I hope this shows people that the baseball gods are not fair. Not fair at all. Don&#8217;t worry, the baseball Gods and I have an agreement. 2012 will be different for the Phills.</p>
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		<title>By: halladaysbicep</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[halladaysbicep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fire everyone except Halladay, Lee and Hamels (they are too sexy to let go). 
And keep Cooch, I like his nickname, rhymes with Gooch, the tastiest part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fire everyone except Halladay, Lee and Hamels (they are too sexy to let go).<br />
And keep Cooch, I like his nickname, rhymes with Gooch, the tastiest part.</p>
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		<title>By: halladaysbicep</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[halladaysbicep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong wrong wrong.
2008 Phillies win World Series
2009 Phillies win World Series
2010 Phillies win World Series
2011 Phillies will win World Series.

Don&#039;t you dare try to prove me wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong wrong wrong.<br />
2008 Phillies win World Series<br />
2009 Phillies win World Series<br />
2010 Phillies win World Series<br />
2011 Phillies will win World Series.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you dare try to prove me wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: El Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El Bravo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well played, sir.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well played, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: halladaysbicep</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[halladaysbicep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope your proud of yourself. I went from crying for the last 5 hours, to slapping all 6 of my wives and my 4 husbands. The 14 children are next. 
I will need to spend the next 6 hours locked in the barn taking my aggression out on the livestock. 
Kiwi, your next, and it wont be ribbed for your pleasure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope your proud of yourself. I went from crying for the last 5 hours, to slapping all 6 of my wives and my 4 husbands. The 14 children are next.<br />
I will need to spend the next 6 hours locked in the barn taking my aggression out on the livestock.<br />
Kiwi, your next, and it wont be ribbed for your pleasure.</p>
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		<title>By: dasher521</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dasher521]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any regions fans do three things (no matter what the sport or team, college or pro).  1) They over estimate their own team.  2) They under estimate the other team.  3) They root only with their heart and never temper it with reality.  It was what happened last year versus the Giants.  Those who do not learn the lessons of history ... And, we Phillies fans did not learn it.  It happened again versus the Cardinals.  I&#039;m glad they played the last four regular season games the way they did, the right way.  No regrets.  If you want to wear the ring, you have to make it through all the best.  The Phillies have to do some tinkering and make some decisions.  With Halliday, Lee and Hamels I still like their chances for the next year or two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any regions fans do three things (no matter what the sport or team, college or pro).  1) They over estimate their own team.  2) They under estimate the other team.  3) They root only with their heart and never temper it with reality.  It was what happened last year versus the Giants.  Those who do not learn the lessons of history &#8230; And, we Phillies fans did not learn it.  It happened again versus the Cardinals.  I&#8217;m glad they played the last four regular season games the way they did, the right way.  No regrets.  If you want to wear the ring, you have to make it through all the best.  The Phillies have to do some tinkering and make some decisions.  With Halliday, Lee and Hamels I still like their chances for the next year or two.</p>
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		<title>By: foreverchipper10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foreverchipper10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s just lay this out plain and simple.

2008 Phillies win World Series
2009 Phillies lose World Series
2010 Phillies lose in NLCS
2011 Phillies lose in NLDS

Add injury (Howard) to the insult of their dream regular season turned into nightmare and all I can think is...

Damn....Their future is murky at best :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just lay this out plain and simple.</p>
<p>2008 Phillies win World Series<br />
2009 Phillies lose World Series<br />
2010 Phillies lose in NLCS<br />
2011 Phillies lose in NLDS</p>
<p>Add injury (Howard) to the insult of their dream regular season turned into nightmare and all I can think is&#8230;</p>
<p>Damn&#8230;.Their future is murky at best <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: halladaysbicep</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[halladaysbicep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark my words. Phillies are the 2011 World Series Champs! I don&#039;t care what Selig, ESPN, HBT, or the rest of you douches have to say about it!! 
They won and always will win. In fact they are still undefeated, so suck on that. 


Oh and Chase, Cliff, Roy, Cole, and anyone else that reads this, give me a call, I would love to setup a time to hang out, maybe in a circle perhaps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark my words. Phillies are the 2011 World Series Champs! I don&#8217;t care what Selig, ESPN, HBT, or the rest of you douches have to say about it!!<br />
They won and always will win. In fact they are still undefeated, so suck on that. </p>
<p>Oh and Chase, Cliff, Roy, Cole, and anyone else that reads this, give me a call, I would love to setup a time to hang out, maybe in a circle perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: schmedley69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schmedley69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, drmonkey, that did the trick. I&#039;ve been trying to get this figured out for months. You da man!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, drmonkey, that did the trick. I&#8217;ve been trying to get this figured out for months. You da man!</p>
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		<title>By: cleverbob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cleverbob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On days like Saturday morning, I dust myself off and remind myself that Mickey Mantle would never pay my rent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On days like Saturday morning, I dust myself off and remind myself that Mickey Mantle would never pay my rent.</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fixed the problem. Apparently, my chrome user profile became corrupted. I wasn&#039;t even aware I had a user profile, but I guess everybody does. I followed the instructions on the google chrome site and it was pretty easy. I find the &quot;default folder&quot; and changed the wording to &quot;backup default&quot; and it is working. I have no idea why that works but it does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fixed the problem. Apparently, my chrome user profile became corrupted. I wasn&#8217;t even aware I had a user profile, but I guess everybody does. I followed the instructions on the google chrome site and it was pretty easy. I find the &#8220;default folder&#8221; and changed the wording to &#8220;backup default&#8221; and it is working. I have no idea why that works but it does.</p>
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		<title>By: spudchukar</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig&#039;s assessment was that the Phillies are a flawed team, and that the hysteria over the 4 Aces overshadowed the weaknesses.  One can sure make the argument that they are the least flawed team, and would stand on solid ground.  Perhaps the chief error was that the starting pitching would give them the edge in a short series.  Not sure that is sound judgement.  The other is that great pitching always dominates great hitting.  Most times it might but not always.

As I have stated on many occasions I too despise the 5-game playoff.  It must be changed to seven.  No way a team that wins 102 games should be eliminated by 3 losses.  

When using subjective terms like &quot;best&quot; arguments are inevitably going to ensue.  There is &quot;best on paper&quot;, &quot;best overall&quot;,  and &quot;best for the moment&quot;.  It is why I chose to wish the Phillie Phans &quot;good luck, and may the team that plays the best win&quot;.  The 102 wins was the &quot;best&quot; record in baseball.  But the Phillies were not the &quot;best&quot; team in September, foreshadowing not playing the best in October.

When the play-off format was originally designed many of us expressed our displeasure because we knew that teams that got &quot;hot&quot; late in the season were going to dethrone those that put up the best record for 6 months.  Baseball chose a post-season formula that more closely resembled other sports, primarily for economic reasons, but due to the length of a season a lot of success was going to go unrecognized, with the concentration on the play-off system.

Is it possible that the Philadelphia team was guilty of reading their own press clippings and thereby became overconfident due to all the media hype, backed up by fans who were all too ready to drink the kool-aid.  Possibly.  

But the more likely cause of the Phillie defeat lay in a number of misjudgments.   The team was flawed offensively, too many easy outs which plays into the hands of a team that pitches to contact.  An aging team that was not as good defensively, and whose mediocre running game could be shut down by a strong-throwing catcher.  Belief in axioms like &quot;strong pitching always dominates strong hitting&quot;.  And finally forgetting that while winning 102 games, they still lost 60.   The margin of error is less in Baseball and if you are not playing your &quot;best&quot; you seldom win regardless of your talent level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig&#8217;s assessment was that the Phillies are a flawed team, and that the hysteria over the 4 Aces overshadowed the weaknesses.  One can sure make the argument that they are the least flawed team, and would stand on solid ground.  Perhaps the chief error was that the starting pitching would give them the edge in a short series.  Not sure that is sound judgement.  The other is that great pitching always dominates great hitting.  Most times it might but not always.</p>
<p>As I have stated on many occasions I too despise the 5-game playoff.  It must be changed to seven.  No way a team that wins 102 games should be eliminated by 3 losses.  </p>
<p>When using subjective terms like &#8220;best&#8221; arguments are inevitably going to ensue.  There is &#8220;best on paper&#8221;, &#8220;best overall&#8221;,  and &#8220;best for the moment&#8221;.  It is why I chose to wish the Phillie Phans &#8220;good luck, and may the team that plays the best win&#8221;.  The 102 wins was the &#8220;best&#8221; record in baseball.  But the Phillies were not the &#8220;best&#8221; team in September, foreshadowing not playing the best in October.</p>
<p>When the play-off format was originally designed many of us expressed our displeasure because we knew that teams that got &#8220;hot&#8221; late in the season were going to dethrone those that put up the best record for 6 months.  Baseball chose a post-season formula that more closely resembled other sports, primarily for economic reasons, but due to the length of a season a lot of success was going to go unrecognized, with the concentration on the play-off system.</p>
<p>Is it possible that the Philadelphia team was guilty of reading their own press clippings and thereby became overconfident due to all the media hype, backed up by fans who were all too ready to drink the kool-aid.  Possibly.  </p>
<p>But the more likely cause of the Phillie defeat lay in a number of misjudgments.   The team was flawed offensively, too many easy outs which plays into the hands of a team that pitches to contact.  An aging team that was not as good defensively, and whose mediocre running game could be shut down by a strong-throwing catcher.  Belief in axioms like &#8220;strong pitching always dominates strong hitting&#8221;.  And finally forgetting that while winning 102 games, they still lost 60.   The margin of error is less in Baseball and if you are not playing your &#8220;best&#8221; you seldom win regardless of your talent level.</p>
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		<title>By: schmedley69</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the same problem with Chrome and this site. This site and TMZ brings my browser to a crawl in Chrome, but they work fine in Firefox. Chrome has some issues with Shockwave, which this site probably uses for it&#039;s ads. I&#039;ve tried everything to get it fixed, to no avail. ProFootballTalk is fine in Chrome, but for some reason HardballTalk is not. I think it&#039;s an issue worth looking into for the admins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same problem with Chrome and this site. This site and TMZ brings my browser to a crawl in Chrome, but they work fine in Firefox. Chrome has some issues with Shockwave, which this site probably uses for it&#8217;s ads. I&#8217;ve tried everything to get it fixed, to no avail. ProFootballTalk is fine in Chrome, but for some reason HardballTalk is not. I think it&#8217;s an issue worth looking into for the admins.</p>
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		<title>By: marshmallowsnake</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it did not mention Phillies or Ryan Howard...I would have suspected that post of coming from a Yankee fan!]]></description>
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		<title>By: marshmallowsnake</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is what I would suggest too...]]></description>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably. I really have a unpopular viewpoint about the word value...which I still hold. I will say that my perception of the RBI has changed as a result of those debates. I still think it holds some value but nowhere near what I did previously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably. I really have a unpopular viewpoint about the word value&#8230;which I still hold. I will say that my perception of the RBI has changed as a result of those debates. I still think it holds some value but nowhere near what I did previously.</p>
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		<title>By: marshmallowsnake</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That whole argument on sample size is bunk. When your team has 4 possible #1 or 2 starters in their rotation, those players should be able to rise to the occasion and take out the other team. Granted, it does not happen all of the time, but the odds are certainly in their favor. In fact, Halladay DID this, but the offense was as weak as Howards achillies tendon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That whole argument on sample size is bunk. When your team has 4 possible #1 or 2 starters in their rotation, those players should be able to rise to the occasion and take out the other team. Granted, it does not happen all of the time, but the odds are certainly in their favor. In fact, Halladay DID this, but the offense was as weak as Howards achillies tendon.</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Manchester United had bad times? On a similar note, go Arsenal. Still time to turn the season around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manchester United had bad times? On a similar note, go Arsenal. Still time to turn the season around.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwicricket</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the record, I am sorry to the regulars who found any of my posting&#039;s childish or low-brow. Simply found the opportunity to have a little dig at a lesser opponent too irresistible. I feel lesser for having done so.  
(Being called a &#039;F#cking moron&#039; a while back for no apparent reason may of swayed me slightly...)

Lets get back to Baseball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, I am sorry to the regulars who found any of my posting&#8217;s childish or low-brow. Simply found the opportunity to have a little dig at a lesser opponent too irresistible. I feel lesser for having done so.<br />
(Being called a &#8216;F#cking moron&#8217; a while back for no apparent reason may of swayed me slightly&#8230;)</p>
<p>Lets get back to Baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: phillyphreak</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My apologies then DrMonkeyArmy, maybe it was those debates that I was thinking about.]]></description>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoa, whoa....I don&#039;t recall ever making outlandish statements about the team. Most of my debates centered around the meaning of the word value, the concept of the RBI, and the relative merits of Shane Victorino charging the mound. Outside those issues, I don&#039;t recall jumping into CF&#039;s or HB&#039;s debates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, whoa&#8230;.I don&#8217;t recall ever making outlandish statements about the team. Most of my debates centered around the meaning of the word value, the concept of the RBI, and the relative merits of Shane Victorino charging the mound. Outside those issues, I don&#8217;t recall jumping into CF&#8217;s or HB&#8217;s debates.</p>
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		<title>By: marshmallowsnake</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew the excuses would come out at some point...but, blaming the media is a joke! Once you heard the name Cliff Lee, along with, signed with the Phillies...the medial lost its control of the hype and like every other Phillie fan, the hype went straight to your head...it is OK to admit it. I did it when the Sox traded for Adrian Gonzalez.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew the excuses would come out at some point&#8230;but, blaming the media is a joke! Once you heard the name Cliff Lee, along with, signed with the Phillies&#8230;the medial lost its control of the hype and like every other Phillie fan, the hype went straight to your head&#8230;it is OK to admit it. I did it when the Sox traded for Adrian Gonzalez.</p>
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		<title>By: 18thstreet</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted this over the weekend in another place, but I&#039;m going to cut and paste it here:

I mean, for six months, we’ve been telling [Biceps] that RBIs aren’t the most important stat in baseball. We’ve been saying the Phillies have amazing pitching, but occasionally have trouble scoring runs. And now, his team loses — a surprising result, but doing so in a rather predictable way — and he thinks the best thing to do is “take his medicine” on behalf of all Philadelphia fans, even suggesting all East Coast fans feel the way he does. Well, he doesn’t speak for anyone but himself.

[And, now, we&#039;re led to believe that his GM is the only one who will work over the weekend to make his team better.  The others, I guess, just show up in March and hope for the best.  Mostly, the Phillies are going to need a first baseman.  The current GM seemed to sign the old one to a lousy contract.  Amaro will fix that!]

Perhaps, Biceps, this is an opportunity to be less of a jerk. Outcomes can’t be predicted, or we’d all be rich playing the odds in Vegas. The Phillies had a great season. They had some of the best players of this generation. Just enjoy it, and shut up about how much you care. We all care. Sheesh. I mean, there are Oakland A’s fans and Detroit Lions fans and Denver Nuggets fans and DC United fans who care, and care a lot. Everyone does this in different ways. And there are Boston Red Sox fans and Manchester United fans and Pittsburgh Steelers fans who have been there for years, even in the bad times. You’re no better than the rest of us. And if I’m feeling magnanimous, I’ll say you’re no worse. But for six months you drove us all crazy. I hope you chill out over the winter and act like an adult next April.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this over the weekend in another place, but I&#8217;m going to cut and paste it here:</p>
<p>I mean, for six months, we’ve been telling [Biceps] that RBIs aren’t the most important stat in baseball. We’ve been saying the Phillies have amazing pitching, but occasionally have trouble scoring runs. And now, his team loses — a surprising result, but doing so in a rather predictable way — and he thinks the best thing to do is “take his medicine” on behalf of all Philadelphia fans, even suggesting all East Coast fans feel the way he does. Well, he doesn’t speak for anyone but himself.</p>
<p>[And, now, we're led to believe that his GM is the only one who will work over the weekend to make his team better.  The others, I guess, just show up in March and hope for the best.  Mostly, the Phillies are going to need a first baseman.  The current GM seemed to sign the old one to a lousy contract.  Amaro will fix that!]</p>
<p>Perhaps, Biceps, this is an opportunity to be less of a jerk. Outcomes can’t be predicted, or we’d all be rich playing the odds in Vegas. The Phillies had a great season. They had some of the best players of this generation. Just enjoy it, and shut up about how much you care. We all care. Sheesh. I mean, there are Oakland A’s fans and Detroit Lions fans and Denver Nuggets fans and DC United fans who care, and care a lot. Everyone does this in different ways. And there are Boston Red Sox fans and Manchester United fans and Pittsburgh Steelers fans who have been there for years, even in the bad times. You’re no better than the rest of us. And if I’m feeling magnanimous, I’ll say you’re no worse. But for six months you drove us all crazy. I hope you chill out over the winter and act like an adult next April.</p>
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		<title>By: marshmallowsnake</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But they lost. With that rotation, the world expected them to breeze through the playoffs, especially the 5 game series.]]></description>
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		<title>By: marshmallowsnake</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I thought the Red Sox would be there too...just goes to show that paper means nothing...]]></description>
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