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Charlie Manuel thinks pitching coach Rich Dubee would make a good manager

Oct 12, 2011, 12:46 PM EDT

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Despite overseeing the best pitching staff in baseball this season Phillies pitching coach Rich Dubee hasn’t been linked any managerial openings, which doesn’t sit well with Charlie Manuel.

“He should be considered for some of these jobs,” Manuel told Jim Salisbury of “I see that kind of skill in him. He’s a real good baseball man. Why shouldn’t his name be out there?”

Manuel called Dubee “my man” after seven seasons working together, noting that “he totally handles our pitching” and “is tremendously important in what this team and this organization have accomplished.”

Most managers tend to be former position players, but Manuel opined that “pitching coaches can definitely be good managers” and Dubee recently admitted that he’s interested in managing some day. On one hand Manuel clearly wants Dubee to get an opportunity to manage. On the other hand he surely won’t mind having him back as pitching coach in 2012.

  1. spudchukar - Oct 12, 2011 at 12:50 PM

    Yeah, like manager of the Phils.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 12, 2011 at 12:55 PM

      Are you suggesting that Dubee should be manager of the Phillies? Please tell me you aren’t.

      • spudchukar - Oct 12, 2011 at 1:30 PM

        Don’t be a Don’t Bee.

        Plus doesn’t Rich have a brother who is a pitching coach somewhere? Hire him as the bullpen coach and then they could be the…

      • drmonkeyarmy - Oct 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM

        Clever Spuds, clever. Danys Baez should be the bullpen coach. No question.

  2. drmonkeyarmy - Oct 12, 2011 at 12:53 PM

    Don’t believe Charlie….he is trying to get rid of him. Dubee is useless. All the stories that floated throughout the year of various pitchers having mechanical problems, not once was Dubee the man to fix it. It was the AAA pitching coach, Roy Oswalt, and the man they should hire as bullpen coach Danys Baez. In fact, Dubee was scoffing at some of the suggestions only to see them work. His method of dealing with certain pitchers (Kyle Kendrick) is through intimidation. Perfect example, in Toronto Dubee goes to the mound to have a stern talking to with Kendrick…in summation he said, don’t throw the ball over the plate to Joey Bats. Kyle, scared to death of getting roughed up by Dubee again, proceeds to throw the ball right down the middle of the plate. Honestly, I hope Dubee leaves…need a real pitching coach out there. And I don’t want to hear this crap about the great staff he oversaw. A stuffed panda bear could have lead that staff to an ERA around 3.

  3. Francisco (FC) - Oct 12, 2011 at 1:47 PM

    Charlie Manuel thinks pitching coach Rich Dubee would make a good manager

    I totally agree, give him a job in Lakewood…or as FAR from Philly as possible and sign a good replacement pitching coach. The Phillies seriously need to consider bringing in Baez as a bullpen coach. The man corrected some of Bastardo’s mechanical flaws just from watching video in Florida! Of course, this is what leaks through in the press. It could very well be we are selling Dubee short and he’s actually helped the staff. There are many things you don’t hear or read about throughout an entire 162 game season. But most of the stuff I have been reading paints an unflattering picture of the coach.

    Either this guy is really bad or he’s had some seriously awful P.R.

  4. halladaysbicep - Oct 12, 2011 at 1:55 PM

    Cholly is trying to fire up a Dubee.

    That’s really velveety but someone had to say it, why not HB.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Oct 12, 2011 at 2:52 PM

      Lamest. Name. Ever. Go crawl back under your rock you knucklehead.

      • halladaysbicep - Oct 12, 2011 at 3:44 PM

        Worst. Punctuation. Usage. Ever.
        By the way, are you the Chris Fiorentino that baited a priest with a blowie and then reported him when you didn’t receive an extra serving of pudding? Seem to remember that story coming from a catholic school in Philly.

  5. dasher521 - Oct 12, 2011 at 2:31 PM

    I have to think that Rod Nichols the Triple A coach has something to do with the attitude that Bastardo, Stutes and Worley bring to the mound. They may have a ways to go, but when they take the mound they a confidence, an air of (positive) cockiness. I think Kendrick has some decent talent, but he doesn’t have the confidence that these others have. I think that may come from Nichols. Another thought as a future pitching coach, Jamie Moyer? Just throwing it out there.

  6. foreverchipper10 - Oct 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM

    Dubee or not Dubee…..that is the question.

  7. leftywildcat - Oct 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM

    I agree that a new pitching coach is needed, and I cannot add anything more to some of the above comments. However I also believe that a new hitting coach is imperative. I know GG has a history with the team, and that Charlie was a hitting coach, but somebody has to teach most of that lineup about getting post-season quality at-bats and about avoiding group hitting slumps. And Ryan Howard and Domonic Brown have to learn to hit lefties.

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