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Beer and fried chicken? Amateurs! The late 90s Mets had a “porn room”

Oct 13, 2011, 1:00 PM EDT

shocked

This is just silly on top of silly now, which is what makes it so much fun.

Al Leiter was on the Dan Patrick Show today talking about the Red Sox and their beer, chicken and video games clubhouse.  The tone of the conversation was one with which I totally agree: they’re grownups and ballplayers and while everyone is making a big deal out of all of this now, let’s be realistic and admit that it’s much ado about nothing. Sure, you don’t want your athletes getting fat, but let’s not pretend that that there has been some moral or ethical breakdown in Boston, OK?  If the Red Sox pitchers were spending their time with salads, mineral water and canasta we probably wouldn’t make anything of this.

Or if it was porn for that matter.

Why porn?  Because Patrick asked Leiter if it was true that the Mets teams of the late-90s and early oughts had a “porn room.”  Which, while it sounds salacious, is really just a way of implying that boys have always been boys and it will forever be thus.  “Porn room?” Big deal. It’s not like every frat house, locker room and ship in the United States Navy isn’t lousy with such things.

Except the question kind of rattled Leiter. You can watch the video over at SportsGrid.  Anyone who has ever tried to first joke away and then sort of explain away a mildly embarrassing truth will recognize Leiter’s vamping toward an answer.  And Patrick’s smiling.  Whether the Mets really did have a porn room back then was an open question when Patrick asked it, but I think the matter was more or less settled by the time Leiter was done answering.

I don’t care a lick that a bunch of professional athletes had a “porn room.”  I’d probably be more worried about the state of young athletes in this nation if they didn’t have one.  But you can’t listen to Leiter try to talk his way out of having to answer that question without laughing.

Between that an all of the fried chicken stuff, this has been the best beginning to the offseason in a good five years.

  1. SmackSaw - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:03 PM

    The ’79 Pirates had their “Blow Room”.

    • Francisco (FC) - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:12 PM

      Sooo many ways that can be interpreted…

    • florida76 - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:28 PM

      False, SmackSaw. It was the early 80s Pirates teams(along with the rest of pro sports) which had some players involved with cocaine.

      • SmackSaw - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM

        From Wiki

        Testimony revealed that drug dealers frequented the Pirates’ clubhouse. Stories such as Rod Scurry leaving a game in the late innings to look for cocaine and John Milner buying two grams of cocaine for $200 in the bathroom stalls at Three Rivers Stadium during a 1980 game against the Houston Astros shocked the grand jurors. Even Kevin Koch, who played the Pirates’ mascot, was implicated for buying cocaine and introducing players to a drug dealer.

        Oh, 1980. No one on the ’79 team was doing coke. No sir.

        I don’t know about you but I was alive then.

      • lovesmesomeme - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM

        Thanks for the clarification. The difference between 1979 and the “early 80′s” is huge.

      • florida76 - Oct 13, 2011 at 4:54 PM

        SmackSaw, the Wikipedia account you mentioned is from 1980, and last time I checked, 1980 wasn’t 1979. Is it possible a few players on the Pirates and other MLB teams occasionally used cocaine prior to 1980? Absolutely. But the cocaine problem in sports became much more of a problem in the 1980s. The Pittsburgh and Kansas City drug trials in MLB proved conclusively cocaine was a widespread problem around the league, ever hear of Keith Hernandez?

        l was a little more than alive back then, I was actually aware of what was going on. Please get your facts straight on the 1979 team, don’t embarrass yourself when talking about this subject.

      • sarcasm0 - Oct 13, 2011 at 5:33 PM

        Thank God florida76 is here to split hairs for us. What an a$$hole.

    • pjmarn6 - Oct 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM

      Great just what we need in a multi billion dollar business with multimillion dollar players a porn room to help them concentrate on the game! Maybe the yankees have a porn room and Alex was salivating to get back to watch the end of Debbie Does Dallas when he struck out again!

      • pjmarn6 - Oct 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM

        I’m old and remember watching Tony Kubeck and Bobby Richardson play for the Yankees. Then the team really held the players by the short and curlies. The Yankee management was sending out watchdogs to make sure the players made curfew and behaved themselves. A report was leaked on Kubeck and Richardson. The detective said, he would have had a better night in bed then following those two players around.
        Today forget it! Steroids, $90,000 at bats, no control and of course beer does sharpen your reflexes………..even for the $20,000,000 a year players.

      • mkd - Oct 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM

        Unless he has some particular vintage fetish I really doubt Arod would be hankering to watch Debbie Does Dallas. Porn is a hell of a lot better now than it was in the 1970s.

    • mandown1 - Oct 13, 2011 at 6:13 PM

      Porn induced erectile dysfunction (google it)… steroids for nuts the size of raisins…. you guys are in trouble! Wow—you just don’t know when to stop. The author– really has a problem….

  2. Old Gator - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM

    “I don’t care a lick.”

    Heh heh heh….

  3. SmackSaw - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:10 PM

    Thanks Craig, my point exactly. I posted the following yesterday. I’m re posting it to prove my point.

    So what? They’re grown men with guaranteed contracts. If a millionaire wants fried chicken and a few beers, what the hell? They aren’t hurting anybody. They’re privileged.

    The MLBPA should have conduct standards in their bylaws. If not, then they’ll do what they want no matter who they’re disrespecting or who they’re paid by. Like I said, they’re privileged.

  4. Old Gator - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:13 PM

    Just watched the Dan Patrick video. Hilarious. Poor Al sounds like Dan slammed the door on his weewee.
    I can’t wait until Dan interviews Hideki Matsui.

  5. ptho16 - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:17 PM

    When I was in high school we used to go to Florida for spring break for baseball to start our season (before promptly returning to a cleveland blizard and not being able to play for a month after already being 6 games in), anyway, the thing most of us looked forward to was the 18 year old senior buying porn for us to pass around on the plane.

  6. a125125125 - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:20 PM

    Yes…right….Millionaires drinking at work and ruining one of Boston’s favorite past times. No big deal. I can’t see why a season ticket holder would be mad about wasting money on a team of boozers. When will they loosen up?

    • Old Gator - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:53 PM

      When the players stop drinking in the clubhouse and the team stops selling beer to the fans.

    • stoankold - Oct 13, 2011 at 2:21 PM

      First, drinking beer does not make somebody a “boozer” (implying alcoholic). Secondly, when are people going to realize this is not about food and drink but rather about the lack of solidarity with teammates?

      It doesn’t matter if they were eating and drinking or playing cards, the point is that they were doing it DURING GAMES and not supporting their teammates when the team was struggling.

      As Tito pointed out, nobody outside the team cared about any of this when the Sox were busy going 80-41.
      It’s a team sport, you be there for your team any way that you can. These guys were going out of their way to not be there and that is the issue. Not what they were doing while not being there.

      • indaburg - Oct 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM

        I agree 100%, stoankold. It isn’t about being puritanical or judgmental. The point isn’t that they were drinking beer or jerking off or eating jerk chicken or fried chicken or jerking off the chicken or playing canasta or knitting booties for underprivileged kittens. The point is that they were not engaged with their team. They weren’t “there.” They weren’t supporting their teammates. These guys are being paid more money than any of us will ever see in our lifetimes. The least they can do is f*cking pay attention while they’re at work.

      • a125125125 - Oct 13, 2011 at 6:21 PM

        Eating or drinking during the games is the point when an ATHLETE is the size of a public league bowler in September. Boston fans are sour about it, and I don’t blame them a bit. Staying in shape is part of these guys’ JOBS. If they’d rather eat chicken, drink beer, and play video games…..they should retire and take their immature act to the frat house.

  7. MrWorkrate - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:25 PM

    That’s nothing. In the late 80s, Cleveland used to have a cardboard cutout of their owner (who used to be a showgirl) and after each win, they’d take a piece of clothing off of it to inspire them to victory.

    And I’m pretty sure one of them performed voodoo.

    • SmackSaw - Oct 13, 2011 at 2:54 PM

      That made me chuckle out loud, thanks!

    • indaburg - Oct 13, 2011 at 3:19 PM

      You win “Comment of the Day”, sir.

    • El Bravo - Oct 13, 2011 at 4:56 PM

      The thumbs up to down ratio here may be unprecedented…well played, sir. If I knew the person who put the thumbs down here, I’d add them to my 2011 douchenozzles list.

    • srstexan - Oct 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM

      This is my new favorite site… You guys are cracking me up this morning. I had to close my office door so no one would hear me laugh.

  8. paulsdamnblog - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:30 PM

    So that’s what they mean by “ponzi scheme”.

  9. APBA Guy - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:30 PM

    It’s the age old winning/not winning dichotomy.

    Here’s a small, equally silly Silicon Valley example: my last start-up was going down in flames, everybody dressed like models from the old IBM “Dress for Success” manual. My current co is going gangbusters, so the Pres is in shorts everyday, along with the staff.

    Signs of moral decay?

    You decide.

    • Old Gator - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM

      I find that brushing my morals with fluoride helps a lot…

  10. halladaysbicep - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM

    Due to the large contracts, the Phillies had shut down their room for budget reasons.
    They held casting calls for a few months and could not find the right fit. They eventually decided to go in house.
    So now they just stick Cole Hamels in a utility closet for pre/after game visits.

  11. skoobyfl - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:38 PM

    These teenagers & their stuff.

  12. steveohho - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:41 PM

    Hey, both the Red Sox and the Mets share a common affinity for legs and thighs.

  13. PanchoHerreraFanClub - Oct 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

    A classy outfit like the Mets having a porn room, no way (ouch, it hurts when stick my tongue in my cheek that hard). Now a bookmaking room, that I would believe.

  14. Jonny 5 - Oct 13, 2011 at 2:00 PM

    Beer and porn is like 10x better for you than Beer and fried chicken. FACT.

    • hermitfool - Oct 13, 2011 at 2:33 PM

      Scientists in numerous blind studies have determined that watching two hours of porn improves hand eye coordination 40%. Have yet to find any studies on effect of the combination of porn and fried chicken on athletic performance, but that doesn’t mean scientists are working on this. I guess the jury is still out.

  15. robbo65 - Oct 13, 2011 at 2:23 PM

    What the heck is a porn room? Hopefully its a room just to watch porn and nothing beyond that!

    • Old Gator - Oct 13, 2011 at 3:36 PM

      With a coiled hose and a spigot on the wall and a drain in the middle of the floor.

  16. jwbiii - Oct 13, 2011 at 3:06 PM

    Word association: Red Sox, fried chicken, beer.
    Did you get Wade Boggs? Throw in a busload of Margo Adams-types and they’ll all have .400 wOBAs.

  17. aceshigh11 - Oct 13, 2011 at 3:22 PM

    I’m sure most everyone here knows the stories about the ’86 Mets…the airplane incident, the “Scum Bunch” stories…

    They drank and snorted their way to a World Series in ’86…now everyone looks back on them fondly, as a bunch of lovable, rascally rogues…when in reality, they were behaved in a grotesque manner…

    …but…they WON. History is written by the winners, so our recollection of them is skewed by the fact that they won.

    Had the Sox won it all this year, first of all, these stories probably wouldn’t have come out, and if they had, we’d all laugh and marvel over how this bunch of overweight, lazy misfits managed to win it all.

    It’s all about perception.

    • sportsdrenched.com - Oct 13, 2011 at 4:09 PM

      It’s not like the 2004 World Series Champion team was called “The Idiots” or anything.

      And yes, I strongly urge anyone to read The Bad Guys Won.

      • aceshigh11 - Oct 13, 2011 at 6:14 PM

        That’s another great example.

        Those Red Sox WERE “Idiots”, and had they been swept in the ALCS, they would have been laughed at as a bunch of unprofessional dirtbags.

        But they weren’t JUST unkempt, goofy idiots who did JD shots before each game…they had a lot of guts and heart.

  18. madskiguy43 - Oct 13, 2011 at 4:17 PM

    A “porn room”, really? Aren’t these guys millionaires with wives and hot girls at their disposal? Sounds like something junior high school kids would do! What do they circle jerk too? Eww!

  19. bbk1000 - Oct 13, 2011 at 4:28 PM

    Old news…years ago a caller calling into the Dan Patrick show mentioned he was a clubhouse guy with the Mets. Rob Dibble who hosted the show with Dan asked him to prove he was who he was and asked him about a speacial room they had and the guy started to describe it and was shut down by Dibble before he got too graphic….funny stuff.

    • gostlcards5 - Oct 14, 2011 at 1:34 PM

      Hmmm…I wonder if the caller was Radomski. Heck, he blew the whistle on the steroids/HGH activities, too! Too funny…

  20. charlutes - Oct 13, 2011 at 5:31 PM

    Why do people have such a hard time accepting that athletes are…*gasp* Humans! Does it really shock anybody who watches Colon, Sabathia, Fielder, and a bevy of others that they eat fried chicken and drink beer? Those are not baseball related guts people. sorry but his guy doesn’t give Sabathia his arm strength, it just doesn’t.

  21. jdillydawg - Oct 13, 2011 at 6:16 PM

    A whole new purpose for the protective cup!

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