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Compensation talks for GM Epstein are “business-like, civil”

Oct 16, 2011, 10:55 AM EDT

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David Kaplan of heard from sources Saturday that talks between the Cubs and Red Sox involving compensation for GM Theo Epstein had grown “increasingly contentious.”

Less than 24 hours later, things would seem to be moving in the right direction again.

An executive involved in the ongoing negotiations told Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe that recent discussions have been “business-like” and “civil,” and that the swap is slowly but surely moving forward.

Epstein has already agreed to a five-year, $20 million deal that will make him the new general manager of the Cubs, and Red Sox owner John Henry confirmed news of Theo’s departure during a radio interview Friday. But because the 37-year-old executive still had a year remaining on his contract with Boston, the Cubs have to send some form of compensation — likely a couple of lower-level prospects — to the Sawx in return.

Major League Baseball is surely pushing for the two sides to reach a resolution before the start of the World Series on Wednesday. Bud Selig and Co. tend to discourage major announcements during the Fall Classic.

  1. 6ball - Oct 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM


    The Cubs take Lackey and the deal is done.


  2. tuftsb - Oct 16, 2011 at 11:40 AM

    Which story is the most accurate – one driven by ESPN and talk radio or one written by someone with years of experience of actual on site reporting on the Yanks and Red Sox organizations?

    Thanks to Peter Abraham for his take – a column that hopefully acts like valium on the rest of the media.

  3. mplsjoe - Oct 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM

    This is all narrative. The Chicago-based story yesterday – “the Red Sox are jerks!” – was pretty clearly designed to put public pressure on Boston. The Boston-based story today is the PR counter-attack. My guess is that nothing actually changed in the last 24 hours.

    The truth? Somewhere in the middle. The Boston people probably are being hard-headed and maybe not-so-nice about this. On the other hand, if the Cubs thought the Boston people were going to just let Theo go with a hearty “good luck!” they’re crazy.

  4. Old Gator - Oct 16, 2011 at 12:43 PM

    If this new story is true(r), this process will revert to being a barren source of amusement.

  5. tashkalucy - Oct 16, 2011 at 2:08 PM

    Red Sox….Yankees…..
    Yankees…..Red Sox…..
    Red Sox….Yankees…..
    Yankees…..Red Sox…..
    Red Sox….Yankees…..
    Yankees…..Red Sox…..
    Red Sox….Yankees…..
    Yankees…..Red Sox…..

    Never ends.

    Hey, did anyone at HardballTalk or it’s readers know that the Rangers are going to the World Series?

    How bbbbbooooooorrrrrrriiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • cur68 - Oct 16, 2011 at 2:45 PM

      Dude, stop reading it then. Simple eh? Your constant harping is “bbbbbooooooorrrrrrriiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

      Plenty of other places on the interwebs to get your middle America baseball fix. Don’t let the blog door hit your skinny arse on the way out either.

      • tashkalucy - Oct 16, 2011 at 3:50 PM


        I could only do it if half the articles on HarballTalk durig the league championship series weren’t on the Red Sox and Yankees……who are not playing!


    • JBerardi - Oct 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM

      Uhh, this story 0% about the Yankees and 50% about the Cubs. But they’re on the east coast too, right?

    • nocryinginbaseball07 - Oct 16, 2011 at 5:03 PM

      Congratulations to the Rangers, but where would they have fit into this story? It’s about the Cubs and Red Sox. The only mention of the Yankees was by you.

    • Panda Claus - Oct 17, 2011 at 9:51 AM

      You know, if you only could’ve worked in “Red Sox … Yankees” a few more times, I might have given you a thumbs-up. And how did you overlook the obvious “east coast bias”?

      You didn’t apply yourself.

  6. uyf1950 - Oct 16, 2011 at 2:10 PM

    If the general presumption is as Drew Silva states in his piece that and I quote “the Cubs have to send some form of compensation — likely a couple of lower-level prospects — to the Sawx in return.” end quote.

    Then what’s taking so long, 4 days, plus? Seems to me and call me skeptical if you like but while the negotiations may have started out “business-like, civil” it wouldn’t surprise me if the negotiations have gotten ““increasingly contentious.” Maybe both “sources” are correct. This might also be John Henry’s way of as he has stated doing all they could to keep Theo as the Red Sox GM.

  7. tommy555657 - Oct 16, 2011 at 8:48 PM

    Please take Lackey but leave the beer and chicken for Beckett.

  8. iranuke - Oct 16, 2011 at 9:34 PM

    I’d like to point out that saying that the talks are “businesslike and civil” says nothing about how contentious they are.

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