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	<title>Comments on: Report: Josh Beckett, Jon Lester and John Lackey drank beer in dugout during games</title>
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		<title>By: meyerwolf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[meyerwolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, wait, did you read somewhere the beer guzzling started around the end of August, causing their performance to decline significantly in September? No, you didn&#039;t. If they were doing this, they were doing it all season long. Even during the time they were knifing through the rest of the league as if it were butter.

I get it, people need an explanation. But it&#039;s a load of hogwash. Did you know the Braves collapsed too? They gave up quite a big lead too. Why&#039;s that, dapperdan? Were they chugging beers too?

Just accept that pitchers will struggle sometimes. Yes, at times, even two, three or four starts in a row. (Or, for the more dramatic among us; &quot;AN ENTIRE MONTH?!?!&quot;) Too bad for the Sox, it were their two only decent starters that struggled and they had no depth at all to pick up the slack. But please, do me a favour, don&#039;t act as if beer had anything to do with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, wait, did you read somewhere the beer guzzling started around the end of August, causing their performance to decline significantly in September? No, you didn&#8217;t. If they were doing this, they were doing it all season long. Even during the time they were knifing through the rest of the league as if it were butter.</p>
<p>I get it, people need an explanation. But it&#8217;s a load of hogwash. Did you know the Braves collapsed too? They gave up quite a big lead too. Why&#8217;s that, dapperdan? Were they chugging beers too?</p>
<p>Just accept that pitchers will struggle sometimes. Yes, at times, even two, three or four starts in a row. (Or, for the more dramatic among us; &#8220;AN ENTIRE MONTH?!?!&#8221;) Too bad for the Sox, it were their two only decent starters that struggled and they had no depth at all to pick up the slack. But please, do me a favour, don&#8217;t act as if beer had anything to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: dapperdan50</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dapperdan50]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether this happened in the dugout or not (and I tend to accept the strong denials issued following this latest report), the issue is not the drinking per se.  These pitchers formed a clique and flaunted a non-caring attitude.  And the result was horrendous---historically horrendous.  Look at the difference between Beckett&#039;s and Lester&#039;s numbers for Sept. vs. for the rest of the season.  People have already forgotten what a great season both were having up till then; their performance---both of them---truly fell off a cliff in Sept.  (You can&#039;t say the same about Lackey; he consistently sucked all season long.)

I truly believe that these pitchers had an attitude problem and lost their edge, their motivation, and their support of the team.  Their pre-adolescent sneaking around to engage in the &#039;illicit&#039; drinking group is evidence of this problem.

For a pitcher to have a sub-3.00 ERA (closer to 2.00 or less---Beckett and Lester were that good) for most of the season and then blow up to 6 or 7 for a month or more is potentially troubling, but not all that uncommon.  But when this drop-off seems to hit several pitchers in unison, you really have to wonder---and hopefully find out---what might be going on beyond a single injury or change in mechanics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether this happened in the dugout or not (and I tend to accept the strong denials issued following this latest report), the issue is not the drinking per se.  These pitchers formed a clique and flaunted a non-caring attitude.  And the result was horrendous&#8212;historically horrendous.  Look at the difference between Beckett&#8217;s and Lester&#8217;s numbers for Sept. vs. for the rest of the season.  People have already forgotten what a great season both were having up till then; their performance&#8212;both of them&#8212;truly fell off a cliff in Sept.  (You can&#8217;t say the same about Lackey; he consistently sucked all season long.)</p>
<p>I truly believe that these pitchers had an attitude problem and lost their edge, their motivation, and their support of the team.  Their pre-adolescent sneaking around to engage in the &#8216;illicit&#8217; drinking group is evidence of this problem.</p>
<p>For a pitcher to have a sub-3.00 ERA (closer to 2.00 or less&#8212;Beckett and Lester were that good) for most of the season and then blow up to 6 or 7 for a month or more is potentially troubling, but not all that uncommon.  But when this drop-off seems to hit several pitchers in unison, you really have to wonder&#8212;and hopefully find out&#8212;what might be going on beyond a single injury or change in mechanics.</p>
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		<title>By: meyerwolf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[meyerwolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought the PC police said the whole thing was only a problem because they weren&#039;t in the dugout, supporting their teammates, but in the clubhouse knocking back a few and playing video games?

Now it appears it is really the act of drinking, in itself, that is a problem? Jeez... Let&#039;s face it, anyone up in arms about this is just a damn hypocrite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the PC police said the whole thing was only a problem because they weren&#8217;t in the dugout, supporting their teammates, but in the clubhouse knocking back a few and playing video games?</p>
<p>Now it appears it is really the act of drinking, in itself, that is a problem? Jeez&#8230; Let&#8217;s face it, anyone up in arms about this is just a damn hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: dapperdan50</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dapperdan50]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 03:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with you Mornelithe.  I AM disgusted with these guys who I have rooted for so much (well, maybe not so much for Lackey, who seems to have no talent and a pretty poor character).  And judging from Lester&#039;s comments of the last couple of days, he still doesn&#039;t get it.  And if he doesn&#039;t get it, I doubt that Lackey and Beckett have a clue.

The &#039;move&#039; from clubhouse to dugout also raises more doubts in my mind about whether it is conceivable that teammates or coaches actually did not know what these guys are up to.

The good news is that a lot of the blame has to fall on the shoulders of Francona.  I truly respect him for what he did in 8 years.  I never remember him calling any player out publicly in those 8 years.  Overall it&#039;s a good thing to be so supportive to your players, but he took it to an extreme and it blew up in his face this year.  I&#039;m reasonably confident that Lucchino and Cherington will see this and hire a manager who, along with many other skills, will know when he needs to kick some butt even while mostly being a &quot;players&#039; manager.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you Mornelithe.  I AM disgusted with these guys who I have rooted for so much (well, maybe not so much for Lackey, who seems to have no talent and a pretty poor character).  And judging from Lester&#8217;s comments of the last couple of days, he still doesn&#8217;t get it.  And if he doesn&#8217;t get it, I doubt that Lackey and Beckett have a clue.</p>
<p>The &#8216;move&#8217; from clubhouse to dugout also raises more doubts in my mind about whether it is conceivable that teammates or coaches actually did not know what these guys are up to.</p>
<p>The good news is that a lot of the blame has to fall on the shoulders of Francona.  I truly respect him for what he did in 8 years.  I never remember him calling any player out publicly in those 8 years.  Overall it&#8217;s a good thing to be so supportive to your players, but he took it to an extreme and it blew up in his face this year.  I&#8217;m reasonably confident that Lucchino and Cherington will see this and hire a manager who, along with many other skills, will know when he needs to kick some butt even while mostly being a &#8220;players&#8217; manager.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 02:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s kind of like getting into a car wreck (in so many ways) while drunk.  It doesn&#039;t really matter if the accident happened because you were drunk.  You do the thing that is known to cause a bad outcome, and you get a bad outcome, people will draw the lines.  

Beckett seems more and more like an awesome guy every day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of like getting into a car wreck (in so many ways) while drunk.  It doesn&#8217;t really matter if the accident happened because you were drunk.  You do the thing that is known to cause a bad outcome, and you get a bad outcome, people will draw the lines.  </p>
<p>Beckett seems more and more like an awesome guy every day.</p>
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		<title>By: steveohho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steveohho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doc Ellis claimed he pitched his no hitter on acid.  Maybe hitting Blotter rather than Bud would be Boston&#039;s ticket to the playoffs?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc Ellis claimed he pitched his no hitter on acid.  Maybe hitting Blotter rather than Bud would be Boston&#8217;s ticket to the playoffs?</p>
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		<title>By: canowack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[canowack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gives the Bo Sox a damn good reason to shut everybody the *uc* up next season! good luck rangers...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gives the Bo Sox a damn good reason to shut everybody the *uc* up next season! good luck rangers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aceshigh11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aceshigh11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good point, but times change.

Even though the &#039;86 Mets weren&#039;t THAT long ago, that team was a walking bender...but as I&#039;ve said, they won, so that colors our perception of them.

I&#039;m not a prude by any stretch and I love beer, but something about this story bugs the hell out of me.  This is no way for players on a modern-day baseball team to behave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good point, but times change.</p>
<p>Even though the &#8217;86 Mets weren&#8217;t THAT long ago, that team was a walking bender&#8230;but as I&#8217;ve said, they won, so that colors our perception of them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a prude by any stretch and I love beer, but something about this story bugs the hell out of me.  This is no way for players on a modern-day baseball team to behave.</p>
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		<title>By: aceshigh11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aceshigh11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That literally made me bust out laughing.  Well-done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That literally made me bust out laughing.  Well-done.</p>
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		<title>By: mornelithe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mornelithe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nah, it&#039;s why they aren&#039;t in the playoffs, I still don&#039;t think they had the pitching to survive to the world series, myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, it&#8217;s why they aren&#8217;t in the playoffs, I still don&#8217;t think they had the pitching to survive to the world series, myself.</p>
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		<title>By: kbeau19</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kbeau19]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this just shows why they aren&#039;t in the WS and the rangers are not only that but those 3 really did not perform near good enough to do that you guys are comparing them to legends who produced even if they where drinking beer....think about it, it says they started later in the season and when did they crash and burn? exactly so those 3 especially lackey who is garbage haven&#039;t earned the right]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this just shows why they aren&#8217;t in the WS and the rangers are not only that but those 3 really did not perform near good enough to do that you guys are comparing them to legends who produced even if they where drinking beer&#8230;.think about it, it says they started later in the season and when did they crash and burn? exactly so those 3 especially lackey who is garbage haven&#8217;t earned the right</p>
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		<title>By: mornelithe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mornelithe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an employee/part of a team, partaking in something that your active teammates are unable to is a sign of poor team spirit, and terrible discipline.  It should never have been allowed in the first place, honestly.  And I&#039;m rather shocked that Beckett, Lester and Lackey are so full of themselves that they&#039;d behave in such fashion in front of their teammates who HAVE to work every, single, night.  I figured Beckett was fairly full of himself, but I honestly expected more from Lester.

These players, all of them, need a serious wake-up call.  They need to understand that their actions, no matter how innocuous, can affect the rest of their teammates...even the smallest distraction can cause issues.  Man up, show some team spirit, and FFS be able to not drink for more than 4 hours at a time...cripes, am I the only one kind of disgusted about this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an employee/part of a team, partaking in something that your active teammates are unable to is a sign of poor team spirit, and terrible discipline.  It should never have been allowed in the first place, honestly.  And I&#8217;m rather shocked that Beckett, Lester and Lackey are so full of themselves that they&#8217;d behave in such fashion in front of their teammates who HAVE to work every, single, night.  I figured Beckett was fairly full of himself, but I honestly expected more from Lester.</p>
<p>These players, all of them, need a serious wake-up call.  They need to understand that their actions, no matter how innocuous, can affect the rest of their teammates&#8230;even the smallest distraction can cause issues.  Man up, show some team spirit, and FFS be able to not drink for more than 4 hours at a time&#8230;cripes, am I the only one kind of disgusted about this?</p>
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		<title>By: aaronzona2011</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aaronzona2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a pitcher on an off day is basically a spectator once side sessions have been thrown, fans in the stands are drinking beer so why can&#039;t they? the only unfair thing is they can get served after the 7th inning stretch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a pitcher on an off day is basically a spectator once side sessions have been thrown, fans in the stands are drinking beer so why can&#8217;t they? the only unfair thing is they can get served after the 7th inning stretch.</p>
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		<title>By: jimeejohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimeejohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No historic choke and all is forgiven.  One of the most overrated teams EVER might have taken the game more seriously.  Ruth could afford to drink beer in more ways than one.  Personally, I think they were conscientious for drinking light beer, but why not Amstel or even non-alcoholic beer?  Yeah, right!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No historic choke and all is forgiven.  One of the most overrated teams EVER might have taken the game more seriously.  Ruth could afford to drink beer in more ways than one.  Personally, I think they were conscientious for drinking light beer, but why not Amstel or even non-alcoholic beer?  Yeah, right!</p>
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		<title>By: 24missed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[24missed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I care that they were drinking and blowing it.  It is pretty crappy to do to your teammates, manager, coaches and so-forth.  Let alone the fans.  

Drinking in the clubhouse happened.  Now, in the dugout?  How does that excuse their little group from scrutiny?  I can&#039;t fathom thinking someone had my back when their guzzling a beer as I go out to the field.  Nice teammate. 

Hope they weren&#039;t driving home.  Seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I care that they were drinking and blowing it.  It is pretty crappy to do to your teammates, manager, coaches and so-forth.  Let alone the fans.  </p>
<p>Drinking in the clubhouse happened.  Now, in the dugout?  How does that excuse their little group from scrutiny?  I can&#8217;t fathom thinking someone had my back when their guzzling a beer as I go out to the field.  Nice teammate. </p>
<p>Hope they weren&#8217;t driving home.  Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: peed1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peed1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems reasonable, baseball can get boring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems reasonable, baseball can get boring.</p>
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		<title>By: clydeserra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clydeserra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you dont&#039; understand the internet, do you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you dont&#8217; understand the internet, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: clydeserra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clydeserra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why not? they are supporting their team mates, which was one of the complaints against them]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not? they are supporting their team mates, which was one of the complaints against them</p>
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		<title>By: bigtrav425</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigtrav425]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoooooooooooooooooooo F/N CARES!!!!! it wasnt on the days they were pitching (that iv read atleast) so whats the big friggin deal! please take all your PCness and get he F out of my country]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoooooooooooooooooooo F/N CARES!!!!! it wasnt on the days they were pitching (that iv read atleast) so whats the big friggin deal! please take all your PCness and get he F out of my country</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesgameday</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeesgameday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Totally agree with you.  Anything no written by Craig on this site is tmz fodder or something contrived.  I think they pay these guys by page count.

Edit function in &#039;012 and a new back up band!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you.  Anything no written by Craig on this site is tmz fodder or something contrived.  I think they pay these guys by page count.</p>
<p>Edit function in &#8217;012 and a new back up band!</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Another Red Sox employee described the routine like this: “Beckett would come down the stairs from the dugout, walking through the corridor to the clubhouse and say ‘it’s about that time’.&lt;/i&gt;

Only 3 kind of people are in the dugout corridor during games . . . security, trainers and clubbies. 

And if they intend on keeping their jobs, none of them are too bright for flappin their choppers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Another Red Sox employee described the routine like this: “Beckett would come down the stairs from the dugout, walking through the corridor to the clubhouse and say ‘it’s about that time’.</i></p>
<p>Only 3 kind of people are in the dugout corridor during games . . . security, trainers and clubbies. </p>
<p>And if they intend on keeping their jobs, none of them are too bright for flappin their choppers.</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you think DJ, Craig, Aaron and company has been ridiculous over the last two weeks . . . a couple of &lt;b&gt;days&lt;/b&gt; of coverage in Boston dwarfs what HBT has posted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think DJ, Craig, Aaron and company has been ridiculous over the last two weeks . . . a couple of <b>days</b> of coverage in Boston dwarfs what HBT has posted.</p>
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		<title>By: halladaysbiceps</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[halladaysbiceps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know what, SmackSaw, it&#039;s friggin old. We get the picture. That&#039;s my beef.

For Christ&#039;s sake, if you get paid to write about baseball, I would rather see a sabermetric story on this site than seeing this repetitive nonsense. And that&#039;s saying a lot because I hate sabermetrics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what, SmackSaw, it&#8217;s friggin old. We get the picture. That&#8217;s my beef.</p>
<p>For Christ&#8217;s sake, if you get paid to write about baseball, I would rather see a sabermetric story on this site than seeing this repetitive nonsense. And that&#8217;s saying a lot because I hate sabermetrics.</p>
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		<title>By: jdd428</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jdd428]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I think George Herman actually drank beer while he was on the mound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think George Herman actually drank beer while he was on the mound.</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesgameday</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeesgameday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[totally.

86 mets anyone?
78 Yanks?
Mickey frakking Mantle?
Babe Ruth?

You think none of these guys or teams ever had a beer during a game?

Let&#039;s all put on our big boy pants and get the shocked looks off our faces.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally.</p>
<p>86 mets anyone?<br />
78 Yanks?<br />
Mickey frakking Mantle?<br />
Babe Ruth?</p>
<p>You think none of these guys or teams ever had a beer during a game?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all put on our big boy pants and get the shocked looks off our faces.</p>
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		<title>By: SmackSaw</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SmackSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My guess is that Babe Ruth was chugging beer and who knows what else when he was pitching for the Sox.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that Babe Ruth was chugging beer and who knows what else when he was pitching for the Sox.</p>
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		<title>By: SmackSaw</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SmackSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn straight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn straight.</p>
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		<title>By: aburns77</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aburns77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[let me first say that HBT&#039;s continued use of the red sox beer mug for all of these stories are fantastic, i laugh everytime i see it.  that said, I think that these revelations while intriguing are indicative of a larger league-wide culture that we the viewing public aren&#039;t aware of. i&#039;m not saying that everyone on a major league roster is half in the bag during the game, but merely that drinking has been a large part of baseball culture since forever and to think that the red sox is the only team doing this is foolish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let me first say that HBT&#8217;s continued use of the red sox beer mug for all of these stories are fantastic, i laugh everytime i see it.  that said, I think that these revelations while intriguing are indicative of a larger league-wide culture that we the viewing public aren&#8217;t aware of. i&#8217;m not saying that everyone on a major league roster is half in the bag during the game, but merely that drinking has been a large part of baseball culture since forever and to think that the red sox is the only team doing this is foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: southofheaven81</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/report-josh-beckett-jon-lester-and-john-lackey-drank-beer-in-dugout-during-games/comment-page-1/#comment-212105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[southofheaven81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, no it is not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesgameday</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeesgameday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know... But the part about them grabbing cups and COMING BACK to the dugout to hang and watch actually makes me like this story better.  It feels more social to me somehow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230; But the part about them grabbing cups and COMING BACK to the dugout to hang and watch actually makes me like this story better.  It feels more social to me somehow.</p>
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