Comments on: No surprise: Rafael Soriano won’t opt out of Yankees contract http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:58:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Kevin S. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212716 Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:31:54 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212716 1. The Yankees were hardly the first team to overpay for relief pitching, and as horrid as the Soriano contract was, the man did have a history of elite performance. That was nowhere close to market re-defining.

2. Arbitration cases compare to other players in the same arbitration class, not free agents. Next.

]]> By: abtystl http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212690 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:58:34 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212690 This is just another example of how the Yankees have single handedly ruined the economics of all of baseball. They sign a guy for at least twice his true value (at least twice) when no one else was bidding for him. Then when some schmuck of a pitcher has a half decent year and is a free agent the next, his starting point is directly affected by irresponsible signings like Soriano’s. Or when a younger pitcher goes to arbitration, his agent points to Soriano’s contract and says his guy had a much better year and that’s why he deserves his raise. So now every team in both leagues are held to the economic standard of the Yankees when in reality only a couple of other teams are capable of standing toe to toe payrollwise.

]]> By: legacybroken http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212525 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:05:38 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212525 Maybe its just society.

]]> By: djpostl http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212524 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:05:02 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212524 I love how you clowns think an average of $12 mil a year is much of anything to the Yankees. The bad contract is the one on Arod, and that will probably end up restructured into a decade long payout with deferred interest.

This is a deal that Cash didn’t want, and it is probably worth twice the players value. So, in essence they are out about $11-12 mil over two season. Chump change for them.

]]> By: djpostl http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212522 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:02:39 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212522 Because there are about a dozen guys who are closers or served as closers for multiple seasons hitting the market. It’s flooded. He won’t ever get more $$ (esp with his horrid first half).

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212458 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:00:15 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212458 To the Steinbrenner boys

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=regrets+storm+trooper&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=537&tbm=isch&tbnid=2maV_LUhGzLgiM:&imgrefurl=http://komplettie.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/happy-halloween-guys/&docid=T_dlS5SGgwQ8PM&imgurl=http://komplettie.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/regrets-storm-trooper.jpg&w=1024&h=768&ei=1gGfTpHUKKq80AH12dSNCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=500&vpy=170&dur=595&hovh=187&hovw=239&tx=81&ty=55&sig=109024540686320549967&page=1&tbnh=160&tbnw=168&start=0&ndsp=8&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0

]]> By: djpostl http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212446 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:52:31 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212446 Not surprised he didn’t opt out. Have you seen how many closers or guys with significant closing experience are hitting the market this season?

]]> By: southpaw2k http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212423 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:17:37 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212423 Comment of the Day. I tip my hat to you, sir.

And yes, I am insinuating he doesn’t even have direct deposit.

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212405 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:04:26 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212405 so you are saying hes an overpaid, overrated, underachieving Pitcher that doesn’t even have Direct Deposit?

]]> By: southpaw2k http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212403 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:01:55 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212403 Right now he’s probably thinking, “Hee hee hee hee hee hee!” as he runs to the bank to deposit his paycheck.

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212341 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:23:04 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212341 11 mil this yr and 14 Mil the next one = no trade clause

]]> By: Kyle http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212327 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:18:07 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212327 Smart man.

]]> By: yankeesgameday http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212318 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:12:16 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212318 I just hope he doesn’t have a no trade clause.

]]> By: uyf1950 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212315 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:09:02 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212315 …is the “source” Andrew Marchand talked to the same unidentified source that said they saw Beckett, Lackey and Lester drinking beer in the dugout?

I only have one other question. Why has Soriano made up his mind so early? He still has about 10 days before he has to make a final decision. Maybe he’ll have a change of heart, we can only hope.

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212304 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:00:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212304 I’m not shocked or surprised but i am 1000% sure that his agent spoke to the Sox, Muts, Phils and anyone else thats looking for a closer to see if he could get similar money

]]> By: bigleagues http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/no-surprise-rafael-soriano-wont-opt-out-of-yankees-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-212296 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:49:21 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=93591#comment-212296 Huh. I could have sworn he’d opt out and take a shot at getting a reverse raise.

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