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Beer in the clubhouse and the dugout? In Yankee Stadium? Yes!

Oct 20, 2011, 5:32 PM EDT

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The beer drinkers in Boston? Amateurs. Pikers. For real beer drinking, you gotta read this New York Daily News story about the Yankees, based on reports from “insiders”:

According to one of the insiders, Jason Giambi and Roger Clemens would routinely drink beer on the dugout bench when they played for the Yankees, passing back and forth what Giambi called his “protein shake,” code for a cup of beer, the source said. And they weren’t the only ones who partook. “Rally beers are big in the clubhouse,” one insider said. “Guys would drink them all the time, on the bench, in the clubhouse, in the training room. It’s common.”

But you gotta take all of that with a grain of hops, because the next anecdote quoted from this source — about Jose Canseco hitting three homers on beer-power while with the Yankees — was debunked by ESPN’s David Schoenfield earlier today.

My guess: the story is largely true — ballplayers like beer and will drink it whenever — even if the details are exaggerated for dramatic effect.  Which makes it like most Daily News stories, most likely.

Either way, I continue to not be shocked by any of the allegations that come out of Boston. And continue to not think any of them are that big a deal.

  1. Francisco (FC) - Oct 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM

    On the other hand, you will continue to make a big deal out of – and be flabbergasted – by glowing media reports on Michael Young’s leadership qualities and team first attitude. :D

    • pjmarn6 - Oct 21, 2011 at 1:51 PM

      Now why doesn’t this surprise me. Of course the beer helps the eye muscle coordination and sharpens your ability to hit the ball and throw the ball!

  2. steveohho - Oct 20, 2011 at 5:49 PM

    “Hold ma beer, watch this split fingered fastball Jason!” Clemens to Giambi

    • mashoaf - Oct 20, 2011 at 7:02 PM

      Just like when Clemens told Piazza that the bat ruined his rally buzz.

  3. sknut - Oct 20, 2011 at 5:58 PM

    I hope for the sake of the rivalry they drank Miller to counter Boston’s Budwieser.

    • bigleagues - Oct 20, 2011 at 9:59 PM

      With Boston Beer Works across the street from Fenway I find it just a tad disheartening that the Poultry Posse couldn’t spring for something better than that laundry detergent posing as beer.

  4. proudlycanadian - Oct 20, 2011 at 6:01 PM

    Damn Yankees. They just have to butt in on a Red Sox story. Enough of this east coast bias. Tell us about the drinking habits on the Brewers and the Cards.

    • bigleagues - Oct 21, 2011 at 2:24 AM

      The Boston Globe conducted a survey of all 30 teams.

      Believe it or not, neither the Brewers nor the Cardinals allow beer in the home clubhouse.

      http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/10/19/beer_here/

      • bigleagues - Oct 21, 2011 at 12:20 PM

        How can I get thumbs down when I’m not even expressing an opinion?

        Fact: the Brewers and Cardinals do not allow beer in the home clubhouse during the regular season.

        I realize this offends the senses of some, but I didn’t make the policy for those teams!

        Sheesh.

      • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Oct 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM

        I think they dislike the truth you provided, most likely.

  5. lardin - Oct 20, 2011 at 6:11 PM

    And the Yankees eventually banned alcohol in the clubhouse. Boston we are waiting

    • fanoredsox - Oct 20, 2011 at 6:35 PM

      That’s what the Yanks and all other clubs tell the public!

      • bigleagues - Oct 21, 2011 at 12:22 PM

        I know everyone has this romantic notion of boozing and partying in the clubhouse . . . but it just ain’t the case, lads.

        What’s more is I know for a fact that the Yankees and Giants didn’t allow beer in their minor league home clubhouses for far longer than the Yankees have banned it at the MLB level.

  6. yankeesgameday - Oct 20, 2011 at 6:20 PM

    Giambi never won a world series as a Yankee! Oh my god, now we know why. Let the rehashing of the 2003 world series begin. Hurry up now.

  7. mlenenski - Oct 20, 2011 at 6:28 PM

    Big deal. The Brewers reportedly make beer in their ball buckets….

    • nprakash5 - Oct 23, 2011 at 4:52 AM

      They are the “brewers” after all :)

  8. fanoredsox - Oct 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM

    The media is making such a “BIG DEAL” out of this. This is not an issue and truthfully has probably been going on as long as there has been a league. The media is just jealous because if their editors would let them drink, then they might actually write an article that people want to read! I am a huge SAUWX fan but in this situation I am a SAUWX and Yankees fan. If my boss and co-workers were cool with me drinking and eating chicken on the job (to quote Craig from Southpark) “I would be soooo happy”! At least the players don’t have bowls of methamphetamines in the clubhouse anymore!

    • jimeejohnson - Oct 20, 2011 at 9:14 PM

      The beer thing is a cheap excuse for why the Red Sox choked. They choked because they were overrated and expectations were unrealistic. At least Philadelphia has not tried to blame their choke on fried chicken and beer!

      • fanoredsox - Oct 20, 2011 at 11:24 PM

        You are so right about that! The Phillies didn’t choke they just really sucked all along and they choose a bigger stage to prove it on! Regular season Champs but couldn’t win a series against a team that backed into the playoffs manged by One Eyed Willie with Shingles. Keep banging that Philly drum if you want, but aren’t the Phillies the biggest choke artists in history? Weren’t they geared to win the last 4 championships, but turned out to be the Braves? Your right the Phillies are sooooo much better than the Sox and Yankees!

      • billbee2 - Oct 21, 2011 at 8:40 AM

        I agree. This would be a non issue if it was not for the Red Sox choking and then the witch hunt that followed. Who cares? Leave the players alone.

  9. jdillydawg - Oct 20, 2011 at 7:00 PM

    Why is this a surprise? Beer has been in the dugout since the Bad News Bears made it fashionable in 1976. Quite frankly, I encourage that sort of behavior and think Little League would be a whole lot less mean if the kids could start drinking again.

    Well, it sure would be entertaining for those of us in the stands at least.

  10. bigleagues - Oct 20, 2011 at 7:21 PM

    Hall of Famer, and NESN Studio Analyst, Dennis Eckersley on Scott Van Pelt Show today . . .

    “The ridiculous part is having beers in the clubhouse, rally beers and all of it, it’s a joke. It’s wrong.”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/15063/podcast-dennis-eckersley-talks-clubhouse-drinking

    • lazlosother - Oct 21, 2011 at 8:38 AM

      And if Krk Gibsonhadn’t had that damn rally beer….

    • Cris E - Oct 21, 2011 at 11:35 AM

      I take Dennis’ comments with a grain of salt. He’s had to make his peace with the bottle, and he’s probably not speaking from a majority perspective. He’s certainly sincere, but it’s not much different from someone objecting on religious grounds. If a team wants to score some cheap PR points then whatever, it’s their workplace, but as a worker you sometimes have to live and let live.

  11. mj888 - Oct 20, 2011 at 7:52 PM

    Big deal. So a few Red Sox and Yankee players drank some beer. So what? MLB makes plenty of its money FROM BEER. If you have been to a game in the past 30 years you will see that in some ballparks, they charge up to $11 for a can of beer. And how many people you know only has ONE beer at these games? How about one beer per inning, that sounds about right. So the players were only doing what me and you and everyone else does when they are watching baseball, DRINKING BEER!

    • Kanonen80 - Oct 21, 2011 at 8:42 AM

      You, me and everyone also drink lots of beer at NASCAR events. Imagine if the athletes in that sport drank! (I guess I’m assuming that they don’t…)

  12. lostsok - Oct 20, 2011 at 11:06 PM

    Softball without beer is like peanut butter without jelly. Like Hall without Oates. Like Van Halen without David Lee Roth. Why should baseball be any different? They know how much they can drink where it helps not hurts. If they drink too much…they’ll suck and get cut.

    I don’t blame these guys one bit.

  13. mjay424 - Oct 21, 2011 at 12:14 AM

    (Big) boys will be boys. It’s not like they are school bus drivers or commercial pilots. This is lazy work here. Find new stories. The only way this concerns me is if a pitcher who is working that day is drunk and maims or kills someone or a player who is playing is so skunked that he is terrible that day, cheating the fans or he goes crazy angry (think Milty Bradley in the past) on someone.

    No drinking on the job is the ideal but this shouldn’t end up before congress like the media is trying to blow it up to be.

  14. RobJules - Oct 21, 2011 at 12:27 AM

    Another reason why the Yankess, once they went the Giambi big spendage way, never won a world series.

    And yes, I’m a Yankee fan

  15. saintsfire - Oct 21, 2011 at 2:33 AM

    Wasn’t there some feller named “Babe” that partook of the monk’s invention?

  16. uyf1950 - Oct 21, 2011 at 5:46 AM

    Why am I not surprised that somehow, someway the media would get the Yankees involved in this discussion. A story that basically has to trace it’s roots back at least 4 years since that’s the last time Giambi and Clemens played together on the Yankees was 2007. Way to go to stay current. Next I expect to read that Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig didn’t really get a long.

  17. florida727 - Oct 21, 2011 at 7:47 AM

    This is nothing. The Dodgers used to have wine and a bartender mixing drinks in their clubhouse. If it wasn’t for that McCourt guy, they’d still be having… oh, never mind.

  18. billbee2 - Oct 21, 2011 at 8:37 AM

    What is the big deal? People need to settle down we are talking about a beers. Who cares. What do you think happened during the days of Micky Mantle? Players would drink and smoke a ton and they have records that still hold today. What do you think went on in clubhouses during the 80’s? During that era they did coke and steroids. This is nothing in comparison. Who cares. Let them drink beer. It’s no big deal.

  19. lazlosother - Oct 21, 2011 at 8:39 AM

    And if Kirk Gibson hadn’t had that damn rally beer…

    Apparently the one I had has affected my ability to type.

  20. lazlosother - Oct 21, 2011 at 8:40 AM

    The one I had affected my ability to type.

  21. ricofoy - Oct 21, 2011 at 8:42 AM

    Baseball, Golf, Bowling…all great drinking sports. Is drinking beer in the dugout any different than having a 6 pack in your bag or bowling with a drink in your hand? Hell no! It’s a part of the game.

  22. djpostl - Oct 21, 2011 at 5:48 PM

    Isn’t the whole criticism of the Sox NOT that they drank beer, but that they did it and showed little or no interest in in supporting their teammates as their season collapsed around them….thanks to the craptastic performances of the pitchers in question?

    I cna care less if people have a cold one in the clubhouse/dugout. But if the season is falling apart because you starters are shittin up the joint every time you take the mound set the brew down, stop eating Popeye’s and sit your ass in the dugout, cheering your teammates on as they try and salvage the crappy job your doing.

  23. paulsdamnblog - Oct 21, 2011 at 6:03 PM

    Hey anyone remember David Wells “half drunk” perfect game? How about Dock Ellis pitching a no-hitter on LSD? When Ellis admitted to his feat of excellance, it was a bit of a shocker, but the Baseball world quickly forgave and forgot about Wells trasngression.

  24. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 21, 2011 at 9:29 PM

    The difference is that the Yankees apparently could hold their liquor. If the Sox were capable of performing at a high level while chugging suds, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Since they choked, and stories like thins seems to indicate that they did not do everything possible to avoid choking, it becomes a big deal.

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