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Joe Maddon: banning beer in the clubhouse is “asinine”

Oct 27, 2011, 8:44 AM EDT

Joe Maddon

Joe Maddon was on WEEI and brought some righteous noise with respect to the whole beer in the clubhouse thing.

He correctly noted — as we noted before — that baseball’s interest in potentially banning alcohol in clubhouses is a knee-jerk, P.R.-driven thing, not an idea that anyone thought of beforehand, nor would they.  He then goes on to note the hypocrisy of banning beer for players while ballparks sell beers to tens of thousands of fans for six or seven innings a game.

Ultimately he comes down on it where I do: ballplayers are grownups, and they should be treated as such. If there were problems beyond Boston media hysteria or if it was part of a well-though-out plan to change the culture of the clubhouse, sure, but this recent business is a bunch of noise.

Check out his comments in full. As expected, Maddon is straight to the point and makes all kinds of sense here.

  1. yankeesfanlen - Oct 27, 2011 at 9:03 AM

    According to the article, Joe “Carrie Nation” Torre has already swept the alcohol ban under the rug. Joe “TLR” Girardi is happy the decision was made for him a few years ago.
    If any old Joe can run the Yankees, I think at this point I’d prefer Maddon.

    • cur68 - Oct 27, 2011 at 1:05 PM

      Len, it’s obvious isn’t it? Maddon for commish.

  2. bucsraysboltsfan - Oct 27, 2011 at 9:07 AM

    If the ban goes in place, will we have to call Merlot Joe something else, like Gatorade Joe?

    • JBerardi - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:29 AM

      If they take away his wine? “Angry Joe” might work.

      • Old Gator - Oct 27, 2011 at 12:14 PM

        Some years back, the Disney Corporation discovered that the workers building Disneyland in France were drinking wine at lunch and banned the practice. The workers, almost unanimously, walked off the job. Disney backed off. There you have the Mouseketeer’s version of the “French Paradox.”

        PS – they were right about iraq too, weren’t they? Take your Freedom Fries and cram them, too.

  3. paperlions - Oct 27, 2011 at 9:14 AM

    What’s the point of having power if you can’t tell other people what to do (i.e. create laws, rules, regulations)? I get the impression that the vast majority of people that seek positions of authority have this attitude, rather than serving and imroving, they just regulate and monitor.

    • Kyle - Oct 27, 2011 at 12:07 PM

      I get the impression that you’re generally correct.

  4. sdelmonte - Oct 27, 2011 at 9:42 AM

    I don’t get how it’s a good idea to let players drink during a game. It’s not the same thing as being a fan in the seats. If I am a fan, quite frankly, I want my team sober during a game.

    • Joe - Oct 27, 2011 at 11:03 AM

      Well, Joe Maddon isn’t saying “let players drink during a game,” he’s saying “they are adults – let them have a beer or two in the clubhouse after the game.”

      • Old Gator - Oct 27, 2011 at 12:17 PM

        If my team is getting crushed – as the Feesh frequently were last season – I don’t mind at all if they start stumbling around, running into each other, running the bases the wrong way and throwing up from time to time. If the game itself has ceased to entertain, hell, I say, let it all hang out and let’s have some laughs.

    • denverdude7 - Oct 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM

      Maybe a cop with a breathalyzer at the clubhouse exit door would be a good idea.

  5. joeh3 - Oct 27, 2011 at 9:51 AM

    WHO IN THE HECK CARES! WHO REALLY CARES? WHY ARE WE TAKING UP GOOD WHITE SPACE FOR THIS ISSUE?

    • shawnuel - Oct 27, 2011 at 9:59 AM

      Because it is a quote by Joe Maddon and he rules.

    • Joe - Oct 27, 2011 at 11:04 AM

      Why are you taking up good white space for this comment?

  6. shawnuel - Oct 27, 2011 at 9:58 AM

    I think most beer is consumed after the games or after a player has come out of a game. It would be naive to think a few players didn’t occasionally “crack open” a brew even while they were still playing but I doubt that happens very often.

  7. Jonny 5 - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:10 AM

    It’s not going to happen. Does anyone have a clue as to how much money is pumped into teams by beer companies? How much money does MLB directly benefit from Budweiser? The “debate” over this is laughable imo. They’ll only be allowed to drink sponsored beers, before it’s banned.

    • JBerardi - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:42 AM

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/cperfetti/1396334235/

  8. massivedick - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:24 AM

    you can’t babysit these rich athletes all the time … if joe wants get $hit faced in the clubby, so be it

  9. mightymike1250 - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:27 AM

    Then by Maddon and Cacaterra’s logic, cops, firemen, doctors, school teachers, business people should all be allowed to drink on the job, right? These ball players are AT WORK! They don’t need to be drinking on the job. If you’re going to have beer in the clubhouse, make sure it’s off limits until AFTER the game.

    • phillyphreak - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM

      My guess is that for police, firefighters, doctors and school teachers drinking on the job is against the law. Business people drink on the job all the time- have you looked at the economy lately?

      • denverdude7 - Oct 27, 2011 at 1:41 PM

        The Republicans must have portable bars they take with them everywhere.

    • JBerardi - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:57 AM

      Yeah, because a pitcher have a few beers on his off day is exactly the same thing as a drunk on-duty police officer.

      Why does everything have to be so black-and-white with you moral gardian types?

    • Joe - Oct 27, 2011 at 11:06 AM

      Apparently you didn’t read the article, in which Maddon says players should be able to drink beer in the clubhouse AFTER the game.

    • scatterbrian - Oct 27, 2011 at 2:15 PM

      Right, because cops, firemen, doctors, school teachers and ballplayers all serve the same functions in society and should be held to the same standards.

  10. kiwicricket - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    I make alcohol for a living, and can go 4hrs without needing to touch the stuff. I can only assume highly paid professional athletes can abstain for the same period of time?

  11. brewcrewfan54 - Oct 27, 2011 at 11:10 AM

    As long as they aren’t hammered out on the field what’s the big deal?

  12. florida727 - Oct 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM

    I live in the Tampa area, so I get a steady dose of Joe Maddon pretty much most of the year. Part of me can’t stand the guy because he always comes across as knowing ‘everything’. But a part of me loves the guy because he’s straight forward, and says what he thinks with no regard for whether or not you like what he says. Kind of refreshing.

    On this point, I have to agree with him. How hypocritical can you be to ban beer from clubhouses, yet have it be your #1 concessions money-maker for 7 innings per night among your fan base? Boston media… get over it. You lost. There’s always next year. Heck, you waited 86 years for a title. Miss the playoffs once due to a bad streak and you’ve got to find someone, or something, to blame? Please…

  13. skeleteeth - Oct 27, 2011 at 11:57 AM

    Shoulda signed Joe Maddon, Theo…

  14. denverdude7 - Oct 27, 2011 at 1:39 PM

    ” He correctly noted — as we noted before — that baseball’s interest in potentially banning alcohol in clubhouses is a knee-jerk, P.R.-driven thing, not an idea that anyone thought of beforehand, nor would they.” He then goes on to note the hypocrisy of banning beer for players while ballparks sell beers to tens of thousands of fans for six or seven innings a game.”
    Joe Maddon
    ==========================================================================
    Right on the money Joe & Craig !!!

    Kind of like keeping marijuana illegal but having no problem whatsoever getting all the valium and other tranquilizers you want.

  15. steelerchicken - Oct 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM

    What are the names of the parks in Colorado? Milwaukee? St. Louis?

    • florida727 - Oct 27, 2011 at 3:48 PM

      Coors Field. Miller Park. Busch Stadium.

      Hmmm. What do they all have in common? Well, one’s a ‘field’, one’s a ‘park’, and one’s a ‘stadium’. That can’t be it.

      Excellent questions “steelerchicken”. Think I’ll pop a cold one and contemplate for awhile. Care to join me? This could take a while.

      • florida727 - Oct 27, 2011 at 3:49 PM

        Never mind. Just came to me. They’re all natural turf places! Right?

  16. steelerchicken - Oct 27, 2011 at 5:49 PM

    You win a beer Florida for the correct answers. I will be down with your prize.

    We can talk about all the cops, firemen and teachers who drink on the job. Although I am sure their community does not provide the beer.

    How about legalizing wacky tobacco? Could help the deficit and world peace

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