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The Yankees plan to talk to C.J. Wilson

Nov 5, 2011, 11:41 AM EDT

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“Pitching, pitching, pitching.”

Those were the words of Yankees general manager Brian Cashman earlier this week, fresh off wrapping up a contract extension for ace left-hander CC Sabathia.

The Yankees haven’t been shy about their focus this offseason, so it comes as no surprise that Cashman told Dan Martin of the New York Post that he plans to talk to free agent left-hander C.J. Wilson.

“We haven’t talked to him yet, but we will,” Cashman said. “They have won a lot and he’s been a big part of that, so we’ll certainly talk to him.”

Of course, just because the Yankees will talk to Wilson doesn’t mean a deal will actually happen. The 30-year-old southpaw is considered the top target in a weak free agent class for starting pitching, so Cashman wouldn’t be doing his job if he didn’t talk to the guy. And hey, it never hurts a free agent to have the big-spending Yankees involved in the conversation.

Wilson has a 3.14 ERA since joining the starting rotation in 2010, but really struggled this postseason, going 0-3 with a 5.79 ERA and 26/19 K/BB ratio over 28 innings. Cashman isn’t ready to write him off as an option, though, telling Martin that Wilson “has shown he can perform in a hitters’ environment in Texas.”

  1. uyf1950 - Nov 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM

    It never hurts to keep the lines of communication open and a simple phone call can’t hurt. I like the fact that there isn’t as much wear and tear on his arm as you might expect considering his age. But I’m not that thrilled about have another soon to be 31 year old locked up for 5 or worse yet 6 years. I’d rather go out on a limb with Darvish, considering from everything I’ve seen and read he seems to the real deal and not the typical pitcher coming over from Japan. We’ll see.

    My first choice however would prefer Danks via a trade. Then hopefully he can be signed to a long term deal. But that’s just me.

    • pisano - Nov 5, 2011 at 12:50 PM

      uyf1950…. I agree with you about Danks. Wilson’s stock dropped in the playoffs. He would be alright for a no.3 starter, but I feel he’s going to ask for no.1 type money. Like you said it doesn’t hurt to talk. I’m still afraid of the Asian pitchers, they never live up to their hype, I’ll never forget Irabu’s supposed 98mph fastball that never was, I’m sure the Boss had that scout fired after that blunder.

      • uyf1950 - Nov 5, 2011 at 1:29 PM

        How are you my friend. I don’t necessarily disagree with you about pitchers from Japan. But I’m sure all teams including the Yankees have improved their scouting of these players even in just the last 5 or so years. I’m sure the Yankees IF they chose to make an offer for Darvish when and if he gets posted will have a pretty good idea of what to expect. Besides I’m a believer that just because you fall off the horse doesn’t mean you should never ride again. We will just have to see how this plays out.
        BTW, I don’t think the Yankees are the leading contender for Darvish’s services again when and if he does get posted.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 5, 2011 at 4:15 PM

        Wilson’s stock dropped in the playoffs

        Why is that?

        Pitcher A – 52.1 IP 4.82 ERA 5.70 FIP
        Pitcher B – 50.1 IP 5.68 ERA 5.84 FIP

        One is Andy Pettitte, one is CJ Wilson

  2. flyerscup2010 - Nov 5, 2011 at 11:53 AM

    i really hope he doesnt sign with the yankees, doing that is the epitome of turning to the dark side, i think it’s fairly understood that he probably won’t stay with the rangers, but there’s something that just seems really slimy about leaving any team in free agency and ending up on the yankees.

  3. cowboysoldiertx - Nov 5, 2011 at 12:22 PM

    CJ is gutless but a good guy. He’s the pitching version of A-Fraud in the post season. He is a decent enough pitcher.

    • Kevin S. - Nov 5, 2011 at 4:14 PM

      You mean the same A-Rod who is .313/.432/.615 in the ALCS and .250/.423/.550 in the World Series? Real fraud, that guy.

      • cowboysoldiertx - Nov 5, 2011 at 5:15 PM

        Yeah he is. He is a fraud. And if you look at where those numbers come from. He sucks in actual pressure sitautions in the play offs.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 5, 2011 at 5:37 PM

        He sucks in actual pressure sitautions in the play offs.

        Exactly, I mean look at these situations he’s been in:

        ’09 ALDS G2 – Yanks losing 3-1, bottom 9th, Arod 2r HR to tie
        ’09 ALDS G3 – Yanks losing 1-0, bottom 7th, Arod HR to tie
        ’09 ALCS G2 – Yanks losing 3-2, bottom 11th, Arod HR to tie
        ’09 WS G3 – Yanks losing 3-0, top 4th, Arod HR
        ’09 WS G4 – Tie game, top 9th, Arod 2b to score 2

        Oh wait, what?

      • marinersnate - Nov 6, 2011 at 2:31 AM

        A bit of a small sample size? Care to quote any playoff stats from any other year except 2009? 2011 perhaps? 2007?

        Oh wait. What?

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 6, 2011 at 8:20 AM

        A bit of a small sample size? Care to quote any playoff stats from any other year except 2009? 2011 perhaps? 2007?

        Oh wait. What?

        So now you need X>5 amount of clutch hits to disprove you’ve never done something, rather than more than 0. Ok, tell me where you got your advanced math degree from.

        However, just b/c I can:

        ’04 ALDS G2 – HR in 5th put Yanks up 4-3
        ’04 ALDS G2 – Ground Rule Double in bottom of the 12th to tie game

        He also hit a HR in the ’00 ALCS for Sea to put them up 2-0 in G1. And later hit another HR to bring Sea within 4 runs in the deciding game that series, 8th inning of G6.

  4. yankeesjetsknicksrangers - Nov 5, 2011 at 12:27 PM

    Looks like Cashman is going to run up the cost for someone else to sign him.

    • pisano - Nov 5, 2011 at 12:53 PM

      I only hope you’re right, and hopefully it’s Boston.

      • aceshigh11 - Nov 5, 2011 at 2:23 PM

        Eh. They can’t be that stupid…they’ve been burned once too often.

        I think they need to take a season or two off from signing overrated, free-agent pitchers.

      • baseballisboring - Nov 5, 2011 at 7:16 PM

        Agree with aceshigh, he’s gonna be expensive in this market. Not the guy you break the bank for when you’re paying Lackey and Dice-K like $30MM to do nothing this year. Wilson is good, but I think somebody is probably going to get burned on him.

  5. aceshigh11 - Nov 5, 2011 at 2:22 PM

    Of course they are. A high-priced, free-agent pitcher…

    …shocking, SHOCKING, that the Yanks would speak with him.

  6. denverdude7 - Nov 5, 2011 at 2:31 PM

    Great. Here we go again.

    The Yankees and a few select franchises use the rest of the leagues teams as their personal minor league systems. Instead of scouting and developing their own players they simply wait until a promising player becomes a free agent, waves a couple million dollars at them, and continues on with destroying the hopes of the rest of the league fielding competitive teams.

    Baseball is not even worth watching for 2/3 of it’s franchise cities. Why bother? Even if a team gets lucky and develops a good competitive core, their players are taken away from them before they mature into a contender.

    MLB needs to implement a hard salary cap and put a stop to the same old, same old brand of baseball the sport has become. For far too many fans across the country there is no reason to harbor hopes that their team will ever be able to realistically compete again. The size of their markets simply doesn’t permit spending on the scale of teams like the Yankees and Red Sox.

    Baseball has become a boring, predictable sport and will continue be such until all teams have the ability to compete equally.

    • cogitobaseballergosum - Nov 5, 2011 at 3:34 PM

      That’s right, this system would never allow a team like the Rangers from a dinky little place like the Dallas/Fort Worth area to resign their own free agent-to-be players and become a contender. They’ll never get to the World Series even once, let alone twice in a row. Oh, wait…

      • denverdude7 - Nov 5, 2011 at 8:23 PM

        True enough. But, how much money did they actually make this year?

        What, they LOST money? Their owner will, without a doubt, continue to aquire free agents and continue to spend on a money losing venture forever.

        RIIIIIIIIGHT !!!

      • gt929 - Nov 6, 2011 at 12:53 PM

        After signing a 20 year, $1.6b cable contract with FSSW (that’s $80m per year for the mathmatically challenged), it’s doubtful that the Rangers will be losing money any time soon. That’s not to mention the increase in gate and merchandise revenues as a result of their recent success and the faith that their fans (and FSSW) have in Daniels and Ryan. They can afford to keep Wilson if they want. It will only depend on how much they are willing to spend, and how much Wilson wants to stay.

    • anxovies - Nov 5, 2011 at 7:10 PM

      The reason the mom and pop teams don’t win is because mom and pop put the money in a sock for a rainy day and for the grandkids. They look at a good player as a cash cow but instead of selling the milk the sell the cow. The good teams plow the money back into the farmhands. That’s why they are good teams. Did I get enough barnyard references in?

      • denverdude7 - Nov 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM

        And how many Yankees came out of their own farm system?
        I lost count at one.

      • Kevin S. - Nov 5, 2011 at 8:36 PM

        Here, I’ll help you: Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Robinson Cano, Brett Gardner, David Robinson, Jesus Montero, Ivan Nova, Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Francisco Cervelli.

      • paperlions - Nov 5, 2011 at 9:09 PM

        One is the highest you can count, isn’t it? Adult math illiteracy is a sad thing.

  7. pjmarn6 - Nov 5, 2011 at 4:01 PM

    Gee they got to spend at least another 25 million on him.

  8. sultanofstats - Nov 9, 2011 at 1:53 PM

    Cashwoman will sign CJ for too much for too long and I’m going to love it. NYY keep digging that hole. Look at their contracts now. I don’t care about neon big market…they can’t sustain a winning team this way. They spend at least 1/2 billion dollars in the last 2 seasons and haven’t even gone to the World Series. They didn’t even make past the ALDS this season. Pffft. Joke.

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