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MLB’s players and owners reach new labor agreement

Nov 17, 2011, 7:38 PM EDT

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Great news, Major League Baseball fans.

According to FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal, MLB’s players and owners have reached agreement on a new labor deal that will be officially implemented on Monday and will last for the next five seasons.

Full details of the agreement have not yet been released, but we’re expecting two major changes: an overall spending cap for teams in the amateur draft and a significant shift in the current free agent compensation system. Rumor has it that Type B statuses could be thrown out and that the requirements for achieving Type A status will be revamped.

Some would argue that capping draft spending is bad for the game in that it limits baseball’s ability to lure amateur athletes away from other sports, but labor peace is what’s most important and Major League Baseball will be able to boast 21 straight years of it when they announce this new five-year deal.

Meanwhile, our friends at ProBasketballTalk are covering lockout day No. 140 in the NBA.

  1. APBA Guy - Nov 17, 2011 at 7:53 PM

    We’ll see how the overall draft cap actually works out. But overall, getting an agreement overshadows the details.

    • tashkalucy - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:04 PM

      The draft cap will be one more item leveling the playing field.

      The Red Sox, Yankees and other large market teams were getting to payers agents before the draft and telling them that they would give them larger bonuses and contracts even though they were drafting lower in the round. Players agents would then tell the lousy teams that they would not sign if drafted – either returning to college or playing professional/amateur ball for a year, so they could go back in the daft the next year.

      It was a practice well known around MLB, and undermined the point of having a draft.

      MLB is headed in the right direction.

      • paperlions - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM

        No the draft cap won’t level the playing field. The way for poorer teams to level the playing field was for them to spend more on the draft…because $10M/year is a LOT to spend on the draft…poorer teams could get much more bang for the draft buck than for the FA buck. All this does is further restrict the earning potential of young baseball players…there is no other profession that has such market restrictions….because…you know…that isn’t how free markets work.

      • paperlions - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:35 PM

        Last year the top draft spenders were: Pirates, Nats, Royals, Cubs, D-Backs, Rays, Mariners, Padres, Blue Jays, Red Sox. The Pirates set the record for spending in a single draft with $17M.

      • tashkalucy - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM

        paperlions,

        Who says this is a free market?

        This is a SPORT. Owners are partners in an enterprise.

        Do you have a clue?

        In a free market one tries to drive their competition out of business and run them out of the marketplace. In professional sports you can’t do that and expect the sport to survive on an national level.

        Take your theories to talk radio – which is to a large extent responsible for the US being in the worst economic shape since the Great Depression, and having no future for 90% of its citizens under the age of 35.

        If the players and their agents think they’re worth more money, let them invest their money and start their own league. THAT’S a free market!

      • djpostl - Nov 17, 2011 at 9:08 PM

        Your big mouth STILL has yet to address the fact (I know, you don’t let those pesky things get in the way) that the teams who spend the most on the draft tend to be small to mid-market teams.

        So tell us again how capping what the Nationals, Pirates, Royals, Cubs, D-Backs, Rays, Mariners, Padres and Blue Jays can spend in the draft is helping them and not the larger market teams who don’t place as much financial emphasis on the process?

      • Kevin S. - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:13 PM

        Actually, it’s a tax if you go over a certain threshold, and it does the exact opposite of leveling the playing field. Lower income teams, should they find themselves near it, might shy away from going over it, curtailing their draft and IFA spending. Should higher income teams find themselves near it, they’re much less likely to let the tax deter them from signing who they want. Good job, you’ve just endorsed a plan that actually makes it easier for the Yankees and Red Sox to dominate the amateur talent market, should they so choose.

      • stex52 - Nov 19, 2011 at 10:07 AM

        When 10 MM$/yr won’t even get you a #2 pitcher these days, it’s hard to see how drafting 50 or so young players and developing their potential isn’t a better deal.

        Ask Tampa Bay what they think. This sounds like an effort by the big boys to keep the free agent market humming.

    • pjmarn6 - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:08 PM

      Completely ridiculous what these ball players are getting paid. Only about 10 times more than their worth. The average salary is over $3.5 million and there is no penalty clause if they don’t perform. All you people who are going to work until your 80 can have the satisfaction of enjoying paying a group of overpaid, egocentic, egotistic owners and players billions of dollars. When your pension plan is not there and your bank account is heading south remember all the years you threw money at these ridiculous people. At least the NBA recognizes that management has the right to decide what they should do. There are a 100 replacement players for every NBA player. Professional hockey has several teams on the verge of bankruptcy.
      I have my pension and retirement all funded and have been retired ofr 5 years at 59. Where are you?

      • pjmarn6 - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:15 PM

        This is where your money you paid Jeter for went to:

        http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/22/derek-jeter-tampa-house-7-7-million-yankees/

        Now when did ballplayers become worth this kind of money for half a year’s “WORK”? And why don’t you have the opportunity to enjoy this kind of luxury? You work your ass off for 50 years and what do you wind up with?

      • Kevin S. - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:15 PM

        Do you copy and paste your rants? I hope so. It seems like so much effort to type out the exact same thing over and over again.

      • pjmarn6 - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:19 PM

        Kevin S when did freedom of speech in the U.S. become forebidden? You don’t like opinions, then don’t read them or defend this ridiculous overpayment. Answer me is your retirement plan fully paid? You got all your kids tuition planned for? Why should the baseball salaries increased 150 times in 30-40 years?
        And I can bitch and rant all I want. So can you. Define the fact that the average yearly salary is probably2-3 times more than you will earn in your life. I want to hear you defend these crazy owners and greedy players.

      • Kevin S. - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:24 PM

        When did freedom of speech mean that one person can’t make fun of another person on the internet?

        Guess what? Everything you blathered about means precisely dick. I choose to spend my discretionary income in any number of ways. Some of that includes consuming baseball, and if some holier-than-thou fuckwad is going to lecture me about economics he’s incapable of comprehending, I’m going to mock him for it. Feel free to carry on. Just don’t get all butthurt when people call you out for the tool you are.

      • pjmarn6 - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:25 PM

        You do know that their agents who only sit at a table and threaten the owners get several hundred million dollars a year. 10% off the top of all salaries. The big ones have 50-100 players in their stables and just sit back and take the cream off the top. Thanks to all the fans and crazy owners.
        You have been reading about CEOs who earn millions putting hundreds of thousands to work and here you have agents making the same amount and just talking a few days. The rest of the year is vacation.
        Yet not one word of criticism or scathing comment on how they soak the fans 10% of every ticket.

      • pjmarn6 - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:36 PM

        Kevin, I got news for you. I really don’t give a crap about you and your money. I am expressing my opinion and making fun of you and your ridiculous attitude towards your waste of money. The ball players are laughing at you all the way to the bank. Everytime they cash their checks, they thank god for kevins. It was P.T. Barnum who said there was a sucker born every minute. And anyone who thinks a man playing a child’s game for 2-3 hours a day for 6 months is worth $3.5 million dollar salary is really asking to be taken. And you just prove the point.
        And the proof that you are hurting is in your answer. If it didn’t bother you, you wouldn’t have replied. You feel stung and you feel the need to defend your waste of money and the throwing of it to the basemball owners and the players.
        Anything you say or write just confirms that you don’t like to hear the truth and feel you are part of the problem. If 20% of the people canceled the special channels or didn’t fill the seats, you would see baseball players still playing but salaries collapsing. So keep on moaning about people ranting and reaving about abusives in sport salaries. You make my day answering and nor replying to my questions. Is your pension fully funded? You got college tuition for your kids or do they have to go to second quality state colleges? You haven’t got the mortgage paid off on your house? Keep sending your checks to the lords of baseball. And keep bending over the rail.

      • normcash - Nov 18, 2011 at 1:06 AM

        OK pjarman6, we get it. You’re really, really, really hacked that ballplayers make a lot of money while you (I gather) work for peanuts and have a lousy pension. It’s no different now than it was in the middle of the Depression when Joan Crawford made $5000 a WEEK (in mid-30s dollars) or Babe Ruth made $125,000 in 1931. There are only 450
        people who can do what MLB players do. People are willing to pay a lot of money to watch them do it. You, on the other hand, undoubtedly do a job millions could do with minimal training. And not only don’t other people want to pay anything to see you do it, from the sound of things, your employer doesn’t want to pay you much to do it in anonymity. Life ain’t fair, pal. Get over it.

      • xavier46 - Nov 18, 2011 at 2:09 AM

        pjmarn6 – So there are equal replacements for Kobe, LeBron, Wade, etc? That would be an incorrect statement. So NBA mgmt has the right to decide what they shoud do? Ummm 30 MLB owners signed off on the deal, implying they too have the right to decide what to do. Throwing money at these ridiculous people? I’ve never directly handed a MLB player money, you surely haven’t been that privileged. The fact that you think this is all so crazy makes me wonder why you are posting on a baseball topic? Ridiculous, no? You stress how easy it is to be a MLB player and their over-payment. If it was so easy to be an agent, why didn’t you become an agent? Then you could have retired at age 35 with a full pension and retirement, but would still be looking to compensate for your lack of “manhood”. Agents just sit at a table… I’m not sure why most of the have degrees from top law schools in the country to just simply sit at a table and threaten people. I get it, you’re a bitter old man… Educate yourself with your spare time. Focus more on your own misery and leave us out of it!

      • clydeserra - Nov 18, 2011 at 2:32 AM

        that ain’t workin, that’s the way you do it.

      • paperlions - Nov 18, 2011 at 8:08 AM

        The prices of things (tickets, concessions, etc.) are based on the market, if people wouldn’t pay those prices, the prices would go down. Now, would you rather your money go to the talent you go to see or to the owner that have not discernible talent being being rich and using that power to enforce a monopoly and extort cities with threats of moving? Yeah, I’d rather my money go to the talent.

      • pjmarn6 - Nov 18, 2011 at 8:37 PM

        Glad there are so many defenders of the overpriced, ridiculous ball players. And I am glad you are all so rich you can afford to pay the baseball players the sum total of a little more of $2.5 billion dollars is salaries. And you are all so glad that the agents get $250 million off the top.
        You are such economic geniuses that you all realize that the market is hyperinflated as there are no other players to compete with these few. You all enjoyed seeing Jeter’s manson. You all know about the great pensions they voted themselves. While you are out working as Wal Mart greeters at 75, they are laughing at how you are still paying their pensions. I haven’t seen one comment why their salaries should have escalated and why the majority which are mediocre players should get multimillion dollar salaries.
        I am laughing like hell, as I see so many line up to get screwed. It makes it easier for me to take my money from you. None of you probably understand the stock market but if you look at the stock MTH it just issued a dividend of 8.65 and if you shorted 10,000 shares on margin in 36 hours you would have made $173,000. in less than 36 hours.
        All without risking a penny. So yes, I can look at these ballplayers and the “fans” lining up to throw money at them and all the brillant investors who think they know the economics and enjoy discussing this new multimillionaire, they created or that multimillionaire they created and how if he signs with this club or doesn’t get hurt or if he doesn’t get caught using an illegal substance, this team will do better than that team.
        For me it is a big joke if I didn’t have to pay so much in taxes to be spent on welfare and pay the max in ss and medicare taxes to take care of you.
        Oh yes it takes a law degree to sit down and say, you know what so and so is offering so much, how much are you going to offer? And we want a 5 year deal not a 3 because x is offering 4 years. Sure does take a law degree to say that!
        The owners are taking full advantage of the saying “YOU CAN NEVER GO BROKE UNDERESTIMATING THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.” Just look at who you keep sedning to congress!

      • pjmarn6 - Nov 18, 2011 at 8:52 PM

        Normcash, you know why baseball has such an easy time taking your money? You can’t do research and make up numbers out of thin air. Babe Ruth made $80,000 in 1931 and he made $80,000 in 1930 when the newspaper agent asked him if he thought it was fair he got $5000 more than the president of the U.S. And you remember his answer right? Ruth replied ” I HAD A BETTER YEAR THAN HE DID!” Now if you can explain to me why Alex Rodrigues gets about $25,000,000 more than the current salary of the president of the U.S. I would be glad to hear it. Come on big mouth lets hear you defend mediocre players earning 9 times more than the president and untested and unproven players from AAA getting more than the president. This should be amusing.
        You have as much common sense and sense of values as my cat.

      • xavier46 - Nov 18, 2011 at 9:40 PM

        How many ways can I point out that you are wrong dude? MTH hasn’t issued a dividend since December of 1996, which was for .015! Currently 10k shares of MTH has a market value of $192,800. Not many people are able to buy almost $200,000 on margin. Without risking a penny? Do you know what buying on margin is? You’re risking a lot, especially if they would call a margin for $192,000. Ever heard of the Great Depression? It had a lot to do with buying on margin… pretty risky. If you’ve got so much money, why are you buying on margin anyways? “Straight cash homie.” And yes, most sports agents have law degrees, something you don’t. As far as education, I’ve got you crushed in the Finance and Law sectors. The market dictates how much players make. C’MON MAN. You sir are garbage. Go pump up your tires somewhere else.

      • pjmarn6 - Nov 19, 2011 at 1:57 AM

        xavier46 I deliberately left one letter off the stock symbol name. I don’t do 10 hours of research on the stock market to hand out my information freely to people like yourself and net. You are probably one of the many who read the wall street journal or barrons or take the tips from one of the many programs and invest that way. Old stock news is no stock news. I watch 1600 stocks on 11 computers and play the market on a max 36 hour basis. So when I want out, I am out in less than 24 hours and just come on the net and make fun of fans who throw money at these overpaid children.
        You should have listened to the New York Yankee games when Phil Rizzuto was broadcasting them. You would have gotten an insight into baseball how it really was. Players played ofr the world series to get the extra money. Today it is a joke. The owners hand out $50,000 diamond rings like candy. One pitcher for the Houston Astros a few years back got as a “reward” a $150,000 caterpillar bulldozer. All this crap makes me nauseous. Its all one game to get the most from the suckers.
        Most will go broke and can’t wait for their pensions to kick in. Mickey Mantle went bankrupt several times. And most athletes get the millionaire syndrome. “Hey I am so rich and famous, people will always throw money at me!” A lot of the kids lose their signing bonuses the first year. And you are now paying for the pensions and will till the day you die. I was doing research on the antitrust laws and it now seems that congress and not a few people admit they made a huge mistake on “FREEING THE OVERPAID SLAVES!” In 1930 the average baseball player was paid much higher wages than that of an average worker. And today the 3.5 million average salary is almost 80 times what the average worker makes. If a “smart” player can stay for 5 years in the big leagues and hold onto a good portion of his salary and invests in 10-20 good stocks with a history of 10% dividends he can easily take home after the 15% federal tax on dividends $850,000 a year and never touch the principle. I really have to laugh at you for thinking I am going to tell you the name of the stock. I gave you a lot of hints and it is simple to find it yourself. I am not going to tell you how to look for it either.

      • pjmarn6 - Nov 19, 2011 at 2:13 AM

        xavier46 here are some broad hints. First you go to a school that specializes in teaching you the ins and outs of the market and the school for stock charting. Then you sign up for a company like etrade and pay for a subscription to etrade pro. You then sign up for several more programs that guide you through the charting program and the numerous studies. Then you take all the companies who issue dividends and decide how you want to play them. Appply the studies until you understand which studies work for your system and “PREDICT” the future performance of the stocks you want to play. You then go back two-three years and paper test your system and find out if you know what you are doing. Then you go to etrade pro and call up your stock manager and beat his ear. Every person who has over $100k invested in etrade has a stock manager.
        You have to look up all your companies and find which ones are marginable. That is on the net. Of course you know those under $5 are not margineable but they can give you 3-15% in a day, if you know how. Once you get a list of the margineable securities and you do know that all companies over $5 are not completely margineable. You then decide how you want to play the market, day trader? intraday trader? etc. And you then get another program which will tell you generally the highs and lows of every stock every day going back 10 years. See it is easy and you want me to give you all that information on a silver platter! HA!

      • Reflex - Nov 19, 2011 at 2:48 AM

        Cool story, bro.

      • normcash - Nov 19, 2011 at 2:26 PM

        pjmarn6 is a day trader! This is too rich for words! A guy who spends all day staring at computer screens trying to beat the market (with all that “research, dontcha know!) has the nerve to criticize ballplayers as being overpaid. There may be more socially useless endeavors than stock market gambling, but I don’t know what they are right offhand. And I bet you flatter yourself by thinking you’re not gambling at all. HA! The reason A-Rod makes what he does is that the Steinbrenners agreed to pay him. The reason his agent takes the cut he does is that A-Rod agreed to pay it to him. How hard is this for you to understand? It’s called the MARKET. Personally, I think the market is often idiotic. In MY perfect world,
        a great high school math teacher would make more than A-Rod. But this isn’t a perfect world. It’s world in which “value” is what the market says it is. I’m just guessing here, but I bet you’re one of those tea party-types who rail against the “damn government” and then stupidlyvoter for people who who favor the very policies, year after year, that cause the problems you complain about.

      • xavier46 - Nov 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM

        Well said norm. This guy is super-douche. You stated “look up MHT” not “a certain stock just went nuts” then you state that you won’t say what it was… but the burst already happened so i’m not sure what is left to hide. Oh, except for the fact that you are lying. I too can do research, I too am quite involved in the stock market. Unlike you, I do not need to come here to pump myself up and try to look good. You’re busted. Busted on the stupid comments about the NBA, busted about your fake stock that exploded. Quite immature for a 59 year old. You’re trying to compensate for something, no?

  2. tashkalucy - Nov 17, 2011 at 7:55 PM

    A publication devoted to MLB and this is your story?

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7247519/major-league-baseball-some-major-changes

    • Drew Silva - Nov 17, 2011 at 7:59 PM

      Wha?

      • tashkalucy - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:15 PM

        MLB is changing, my man.

        The era of MLB being a sandbox for ESPN and fans in NYC and Boston is ending.

        I’ve been saying if for months, and I get “thumbed down” by the front-running fans of those teams that think they know baseball. Like a rich kid that doesn’t understand that his multi0million dollar trust fund is now worth $1,457.24.

        Thumb me down some more. But the tipping point has been reached. MLB had to decide if it was the playtoy of a few, or a national sport for fans around the country. It has elected to be a national sport. And the Stenbrenners’ and John Henry knew darn well what was coming for quite some time.

        As my Dad used to say – “when some see the handwriting on the wall, they think it’s a forgery.”

      • Drew Silva - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:33 PM

        I don’t understand the argument, nor the genesis of it.

      • tashkalucy - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:48 PM

        Drew Silva,

        Seriously……did you read the article?

        If you think Jayson Stark has no credentials, look at where it came from on ESPN MLB. Their headline over a series of articles/video’s is – ‘It’s A Whole New Ballgame’.

        If you’re a MLB fan, I’d suggest ignoring the reactionary thumbs down to my posts, and going over there and seeing what their people are saying.

        MLB is about to go through some it it’s biggest changes in decades. Anyone that thinks this doesn’t change the landscape doesn’t know why Theo Epstein got out while the getting was good.

      • Drew Silva - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:50 PM

        Right, but we’ve already covered all that stuff today. This post isn’t about Selig’s afternoon announcement, it’s about the new labor agreement.

      • paperlions - Nov 18, 2011 at 8:17 AM

        As my Dad used to say – “when some see the handwriting on the wall, they think it’s a forgery.”

        Was your dad a graffiti artist?

    • hansob - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:09 PM

      …or you could just look past the hyperbole of the title and NOT see any major changes outside the already-been-speculated-on-for-a-year-or-more extra wild card slot.

      • tashkalucy - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:19 PM

        Ah……

        Another airhead making an authoritative statement that didn’t read the article.

        Don’t bother. Doubt you can begin to comprehend it.

        Sometimes it’s hard to tell if it’s stupidity of denial. But no matter what……reality happens.

      • phillyphever - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:40 PM

        Or you can put a sock in it task.

      • tashkalucy - Nov 17, 2011 at 8:53 PM

        phillyphever,

        Tough when one is so arrogant and is presented with reality, no?

        It’s not like you own the team or had a thing to do with building them up.

        Pat Gillick is gone. The moves Ruben has been making will mean an 8-10 year rebuild starts by 2014 at the latest. You have a old team, a bloated payroll, and he traded all the good players in the farm system.

        Don’t be so smug.

      • Ari Collins - Nov 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM

        Yeah, so… I read the article. Which change do you think caused Theo to “get out while the getting is good,” that is evening the playing field so much? Is it the extra wild card? I’m pretty sure that going from a quarter of teams making the playoffs to a third isn’t going to dramatically change the landscape, especially since two teams will only get to play one postseason game.

        No one else is seeing what you’re seeing. So, please, explain it to us.

      • cur68 - Nov 18, 2011 at 3:44 AM

        Man, crazy people be crazy, or what. Until ‘tashkalucy’ gets some new foil in his hat I shall be ignoring him from here out: often its just best to look away from a train wreck…

  3. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Nov 17, 2011 at 9:14 PM

    Amazing. Only Congress does a better job of doing what is best for itself at the expense of those they it should serve. MLB owners decide to make sure amateur latino kids don’t make too much, and the player’s union agrees. Funny it does not work that way in the US draft…

  4. diehardcubbiefan4life - Nov 17, 2011 at 9:48 PM

    NBA is jealous.

  5. cubsrice - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:32 PM

    Does anyone know if the Type B compensation is thrown out starting this offseason or if it only applies for the following offseason and beyond?

    • Drew Silva - Nov 17, 2011 at 10:50 PM

      I believe the new rules would take effect Monday.

      • cubsrice - Nov 17, 2011 at 11:34 PM

        That sucks. The Cubs just lost two potential sandwich picks.

      • clydeserra - Nov 18, 2011 at 2:45 AM

        Are you saying this is wrong?

      • natstowngreg - Nov 18, 2011 at 8:38 AM

        This just shows that we’re still in the glow of “they made a deal, there won’t be a lockout.”

        ***Overused Cliche Alert***

        The Devil is in the details, and as Jayson Stark pointed out, a lot of the details have’t been announced, In the case of the new schedule format, the details haven’t been decided.

        ***End of Overused Cliche Alert. We return you to your regularly scheduled blogging.***

  6. Detroit Michael - Nov 18, 2011 at 12:38 AM

    As Maury Brown noted earlier in the week, by the time this new labor agreement expires, baseball will have had 22 consecutive years of labor peace. That’s great news. The rest is just details.

  7. Reflex - Nov 18, 2011 at 2:07 AM

    Wow, what a totally bizzarre thread. Wild off topic comments, uninformed economic ranting, reader sniping and just general lunacy.

    I haven’t had time to post much lately, been too busy launching some new products, but I’m still reading the comments and threads like this just make me shake my head.

  8. cleverbob - Nov 18, 2011 at 8:04 AM

    NFL and NBA should learn from them. Scratch that, the NBA can just rot.

  9. JBerardi - Nov 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM

    “Some would argue that capping draft spending is bad for the game in that it limits baseball’s ability to lure amateur athletes away from other sports, but labor peace is what’s most important and Major League Baseball will be able to boast 21 straight years of it when they announce this new five-year deal.”

    I would argue that it’s incredibly stupid to look at the area where it sees the greatest returns on it’s investment, as far as acquiring talent goes, and say “ah ha! We’ve got to stop spending so much money on this!”. It’s like Apple shutting down the production of iPhones because they don’t like how much money they’re spending on making the boxes for them. Huh? It’s your biggest profit center, dummies.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 18, 2011 at 4:02 PM

      While I’m almost certain it’ll be way over my head, Pirates pitcher Ross Ohlendorf wrote his senior thesis at Princeton about the Return on Investment of draft picks to their major league teams, and found that they offered a significant return over the signing bonuses.

    • stex52 - Nov 19, 2011 at 10:18 AM

      A discussion that was big in the Houston media after the Carlos Lee deal went south. Owners like free agents because you think you are buying a sure thing right now. Working to develop a large reservoir of talent over three to five years requires a lot of foresight and judgment.

      It’s been pointed out many times that the multiple-championship Yankees developed on the back of a strong farm system.

      This part of the contract just seems stupid, especially for the mid-market teams.

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