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Phillies acquire Ty Wigginton from Rockies for PTBNL

Nov 20, 2011, 7:14 PM EDT


Philadelphia picked up a decent right-handed bat, potential fill in for Ryan Howard at first base, and possible alternative to Placido Polanco at third base, acquiring Ty Wigginton from Colorado for a player to be named later or cash.

Wigginton is owed $4 million in 2012 and his contract has a $4 million option or $500,000 buyout for 2013, but Troy Renck of the Denver Post reports that the Rockies are covering half of his 2012 salary.

That makes him cheap enough to not rule out the Phillies continuing their pursuit of a free agent outfielder like Michael Cuddyer. And if not they basically settled for the poor man’s Cuddyer.

He’s not much of a defender at third base and hasn’t cracked a .750 OPS since 2008, so clearly the Rockies were happy enough to just save a couple million bucks. Wigginton, who turned 34 years old last month, batted .242 with a .315 on-base percentage and .416 slugging percentage in 130 games for Colorado, smacking 15 homers in 401 at-bats while starting games at third base, first base, and both corner outfield spots.

  1. Kevin S. - Nov 20, 2011 at 7:31 PM

    Heh. I like how Aaron calls Wig a “decent right-handed bat” early on, then demonstrates how he doesn’t meet any standard of decent for first base or a corner outfield position. He hasn’t even hit lefties particularly well of late.

    • coloradothistle - Nov 21, 2011 at 4:23 PM

      He hit .163 with RISP. He was god awful in the field. I don’t think he’s a “decent” anything except guy. He seems to be a really, really nice guy.

  2. spudchukar - Nov 20, 2011 at 7:37 PM

    Other than the fact that he cannot hit for average or power, has never been much of an OBP guy, cannot run, field or throw the Phils have acquired quite the talent.

    • siftin thru nonsense - Nov 21, 2011 at 9:41 AM

      I disagree with the ‘can’t hit for power’ part. He had 22 homers in 2010 and 15 in 2011 in 400 at bats. Definitely has some power. True about OBA and the skills. .265 lifetime batting avg aint the greatest. He is insurance against the phils not being able to acquire Cuddyer. Hope they can still get him.

    • spudchukar - Nov 21, 2011 at 10:54 AM

      True he has “some” power. Over his career he has averaged 17 homers per every 500 PAs, which is a number he would be hard-pressed to surpass in Philly. For a corner outfielder/corner infielder that isn’t much to brag about. And his last 3 years he has been fortunate to have called Camden Yards and Coors Field his home, so do not look for it to improve in CBP.

  3. paperlions - Nov 20, 2011 at 7:54 PM

    Dang, I was going to take a swipe at the “decent RH bat” comment, but it was already out cold on the canvas.

  4. mikedi33 - Nov 20, 2011 at 8:05 PM

    He is still a decent right handed bat compared to Valdez or Martinez

    • phillyphreak - Nov 20, 2011 at 8:09 PM

      With a way lesser glove…..

  5. mojosmagic - Nov 20, 2011 at 8:05 PM

    A lesser right handed version of Raul Ibanez. Your everyday basic bum.

  6. skeleteeth - Nov 20, 2011 at 8:24 PM

    Link Heartthrob he amn’t.

  7. uyf1950 - Nov 20, 2011 at 8:25 PM

    The Ty Willinton signing by Philadelphia is a result of two factors. First, the luxury tax for 2012 remaining the same for 2012 in the new CBA. Second, the Papelbon signing for $12.5M per.

    The Papelbon signing left the Phillies dangerously close what is now the 2012 luxury tax threshold. When you consider they need to resign Rollins or a comparable player and the automatic increase due pre-arbitration players in 2012 where 1st year minimums were raised from $414K to $480K and the ripple effect for 2nd and 3rd year players.

    Factor in the Phillies realize they will need a “boat load” of money at resign Hamels when he hits FA for the 2013 season and something less than a boat load to resign Victorino. as well as others that hit FA in 2014 and the Phillies could easily exceed the luxury threshold in 2013 and beyond by millions of dollars. Even at a rate of 22.5 for first time offenders it could be a considerable chunk of change. In my opinion and it’s only that, Cuddyer was a luxury the Phillies simply could not afford going forward. So Wigginton steps in.

  8. sarcasticks - Nov 20, 2011 at 8:38 PM

    Cuddyer was an expensive, bad idea. So I’ll take Wigginton and his lack of whatever, with his $10 million per year savings. 2 mill is approximately 4x the new minimum, so I’m good with that.

    BTW, what ripple effect to you refer to? As far as I know these are league minimums, not first year minimums.

    • uyf1950 - Nov 20, 2011 at 9:32 PM

      That’s very true about it being a “minimum”. Included in the minimum are all players in their 1st year. I can’t help but believe that MLB teams are going to have a tough time paying most 2nd year players the same $480K minimum that 1st year players will be making in 2012. That is/was the ripple effect I was talking about. That’s just my opinion.

      • paperlions - Nov 21, 2011 at 6:21 AM

        You really think that $60,000 is going to make a difference? That represents 0.06% of a $100M payroll last year. If a team has 10 guys that haven’t made it to arbitration yet on their roster (which would be a lot), that is a 0.6% increase in payroll. Oh no, how will they ever deal with that?

      • cleverbob - Nov 21, 2011 at 1:42 PM

        Reasoning and basic mathematics is not welcome here.

      • sarcasticks - Nov 22, 2011 at 1:20 AM

        I get what you’re saying about players not being happy making the minimum after a year. But in my opinion the way baseball usually functions considering its close integration with the minors and service time calculations, players basically just get the minimum whether they like it or not until they become arbitration eligible. There’s really no negotiating. Keep in mine this doesn’t include signing bonuses when they’re drafted. I could be wrong.

  9. Utley's Hair - Nov 20, 2011 at 10:35 PM

    In NinJr. we must trust…in NinJr. we must trust…in NinJr. we must trust…in NinJr. we must trust…in NinJr. we must trust…in NinJr. we must trust….

    Besides, at the very least, he’ll be the best Ty being paid to play a sport in Philadelphia since the guy from BYU who QBd for the Birds, right?

    • timasahh - Nov 21, 2011 at 2:24 AM

      Ty Detmer never played for the Eagles. Koy Detmer did.

      • firedude7160 - Nov 21, 2011 at 3:55 AM

        Ty Detmer went 7-4 for the Eagles in 1996, and was with the team in 1997. Koy was drafted by the Eagles in the 7th round of the ’97 draft, and then stayed with the team till 2006. So BOTH Detmer’s played for the Eagles. Ty was better, but not as memorable because his stay was short lived

      • Utley's Hair - Nov 21, 2011 at 3:58 AM

      • Utley's Hair - Nov 21, 2011 at 4:02 AM

        And Koy traveled light to road games, too.

      • timasahh - Nov 21, 2011 at 8:54 PM


  10. Francisco (FC) - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:03 AM

    Let’s just say Phillies fans won’t exactly be flocking to send Craig Ty Wigginton bobble heads to his lair…

  11. firedude7160 - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:21 AM

    “And if not they basically settled for the poor man’s Cuddyer.”

    That’s exactly how I described him when discussing this with my father. I couldn’t use any statistics other than HR, Avg, and RBI because my father understand them (or accept them even if he did).

    A couple years ago I would have loved this, but now I am indifferent. He hits better than Valdez, but doesn’t have near the glove. Having him fill in at first will allow Mayberry Jr. to play in Left, which would be a relief. Would still be nice to get Cuddyer, but I will feel just a little bit better now if we don’t.

    • paperlions - Nov 21, 2011 at 6:27 AM

      Wiggington isn’t a poor man’s Cuddyer, he’s a bankrupt man’t Cuddyer. Wiggington has been an above average major leaguer 1 year during his entire career (2 War = average, his 2nd best season was 1.5 WAR). When you can only play on the corners, that is 12 kinds of horrible. He can’t hit and he can’t field. He is a waste of a roster spot; there is almost no way the Phils don’t have someone equally useless in their farm system. The Rockies must be thrilled to be saving $2M.

  12. Jonny 5 - Nov 21, 2011 at 8:46 AM

    This move confuses me. I will wait and see what unfolds before I judge.

    • The Rabbit - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:11 PM

      Hi Jonny,
      I watched Wigginton with both the Rockies and Orioles. Offensively, he’s incredibly streaky. If you track him in the right month, you’d think he could be the “sleeper” player of the year. He’ll get in a zone and hit what seems like most of his HR’s in a two week period. The other months, he’s just asleep.
      He’s certainly not an impact player which the Phillies could use nor is he a great “superutility” guy. He doesn’t bring much to the the table defensively, so this move confused me, too.

      • Jonny 5 - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM

        Hi Rabbit, It seems he’s an expensive bench player to me. And I don’t much understand signing an expensive bench player. But it’s not my money either so I guess he’s a bit better with the bat than Wilson and Martinez, so there’s that. If they need an offensive switch, then he’s the guy along with Thome, then they can switch them out for the more defensively strong bench players. That’s my guess.

        If I don’t hear from you before the holiday, I hope you have a great one. Gobble Gobble ;>)~

  13. irishphilly87 - Nov 21, 2011 at 11:34 AM

    ty wigginton and 41 year old jimthome…thats what i like to see when amaro said his #1 priority was the lineup. SYKE… .wtf rueben do what u do best MAKE THE TRADE THAT U KNOW U HAVE TO MAKE. trade for a legit outfielder or 3B. jroll was wining and dining with dave montgomery n phillies brass so hes obv comin back so go get a OF… we got so many prospects. aumont n de fritas were teh future closers but now with paps obviously they r no longer needed. we got 3 stud starting pitchers down there we got dom brown who a year ago was the #1 rated prospect in baseball …trade for a guy like Carlos Quentin or Carlos Gonzalez. it wont take much for quentin and he can be lethal in philly. id even be happy if the phillies trade for Andre Ethier and rent him for a year. the dodgers just gave kemp $160 mil and thers no way they can re-sign ethier. those 3 guys i mentioned are the players im talkin about not TY WIGGINTON. we got doc lee and hamels GO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH THEM BY DOING WHAT U HAVE TO DO RUEBEN.

  14. irishphilly87 - Nov 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM

    n it pisses me off that it looks like they wont resign cole hamels n may even trade him. HES 28!!! hes world series mvp. theyre gona give money to j-roll and regret it from day 1. dont waste $30-40 million on jroll go spend it on keepin cole here. they spent $50 million on papelbon when they coulda signed a heath bell for much cheaper n had more money to resign hamels. hamels sees that , sees jroll prolly gettin signed and goes wheres my new contract? they better not lose him.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:11 PM

      Stop reading internet rumors that are floated out with no substance behind them. The Phillies are not going to trade Hamels. There are other things that must be taken care of before they can turn their entire attention to the Hamels situation. Be patient.

    • Jonny 5 - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM

      Hamels doesn’t give a crap about a new contract actually. He’s been quoted as saying it’s not an issue and he just wants be a Phillie and he’s sure Amaro and his agent will come to terms, he’s in no rush. He’s going nowhere.

    • cintiphil - Nov 21, 2011 at 3:38 PM

      How can they give Hamels away? They have to resign him, and I think he wants to stay there. But the problem remains, who will drive in the run they will need to win? The injury to Howard hurt a lot more than people think. he is the team leader for RBI’s and HR’s, and they need him in the line up.

  15. jasonwrites - Nov 22, 2011 at 12:40 AM

    Believe that I represent all Rockies fans in LOVING that Colorado castoff Wiggy. I’m sure Phillies fans loved a key moment in a Rockies-Braves game this season when Freddi Gonzalez decides to “go by the book” and intentionally walk Ty to get the lefty-lefty matchup against… Carlos Gonzalez, only the defending NL batting champion, who promptly delivered the walkoff hit.

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