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Clint Barmes turned down Brewers to sign with Pirates

Nov 21, 2011, 11:19 AM EDT

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No official announcement has been made yet, but Clint Barmes told Brian McTaggart of that his new contract with the Pirates is a two-year, $10.5 million deal.

He’s expected to take a physical exam today, at which point it’ll be finalized and he’ll take over as Pittsburgh’s starting shortstop.

Barmes explained that he signed quickly because the Pirates “threw a great offer” his way whereas the Brewers wanted to wait until the Prince Fielder situation played out.

Barmes is right about the “great offer” part, as $10.5 million tops Jamey Carroll‘s two-year, $6.75 million deal from the Twins and Mark Ellis‘ two-year, $8.75 million deal from the Dodgers.

Barmes is younger than Carroll and Ellis, and more importantly he’s an elite defensive shortstop, but he’s also a career .230 hitter with a ghastly .270 on-base percentage and .360 slugging percentage away from Coors Field. Barmes was better than that in his first season since leaving the Rockies, hitting .244 with a .312 OBP and .386 slugging percentage, but clearly the Pirates are paying for his glove while hoping Barmes smacks 15 homers along with all that out-making.

And now the Brewers may be left turning back to an even more extreme out-maker without Barmes’ defensive skills in Yuniesky Betancourt.

  1. lyon810 - Nov 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM

    It still boggles my mind to see Barmes fetch $5.25 per season.

    • 78mu - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:46 PM

      There was a big party at the Furcal house when they saw what Barmes signed for.

  2. APBA Guy - Nov 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM

    What is it about the Pirates and bad contracts for replacement level middle infielders?

    • b7p19 - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:31 PM

      Well, if you have a better idea on who to give a bad contract to feel free to share.

      • paperlions - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:39 PM

        No one.

      • b7p19 - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:49 PM

        That may be just crazy enough to work. I’m just not sure if the baseball world is ready for an idea like that.

      • paperlions - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:52 PM

        True. Change comes slowly, if it comes at all.

    • 78mu - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM

      My theory is that Jim Hendry is an advisor for the Pirates and they are warming up on how to give bad contracts to crappy outfielders. Once they figure out how to overpay their middle infielders they will move up to contracts for the next Soriano, Bradley or Fukudome.

  3. florida76 - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    Like the move, the Bucs just upgraded at the shortstop position. Barmes isn’t the long term answer, but Ronny Cedeno wore out his welcome. There’s more to baseball than statistics, and Hurdle is aware of the intangibles(besides the consistent glove), that Barmes brings to the position.

    • b7p19 - Nov 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM

      Do intangibles help get on base? Because either they don’t or they do and Barmes doesn’t have any.

      • florida76 - Nov 21, 2011 at 2:18 PM

        Intangibles do help a club win games, and that’s the most important statistic of all.

      • b7p19 - Nov 21, 2011 at 3:03 PM

        You know what helps to win games even more than intangibleness? Hits, Walks, Home Runs. I’m not typically one to shove stats down ones throat, but I’ve just never gotten the intagibles thing. Nobody has ever been able to actually explain to me how intangibles help, but I can easily explain the use of Hits, Walks, HR’s, ect. Maybe I just lack faith.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Nov 21, 2011 at 5:01 PM

        This isn’t football or basketball where team chemistry is an extremely vital part of a team. I will buy chemistry being important between pitcher and catcher but that is about it. Baseball is really about measurables. Barmes is excellent defensively. That is not an intangible. There is concrete data to support that. Barmes, however, can’t hit. There is data to support that. Being a good clubhouse guy is largely irrelevant in baseball.

  4. stairwayto7 - Nov 21, 2011 at 11:18 PM

    What does that say that a below average player does nto want to play in the state of Wisconsin? I guess he does nto want to see 250 lbs, hairy lips beer drinking women every night.

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