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	<title>Comments on: Raul Ibanez surprisingly among Phillies arbitration offerings</title>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, that would just be silly.  Why should you get compensation for losing a guy you didn&#039;t want to keep?

Plus, you only get compensation if the guy turns you down and then signs a major league deal with another team.

I think the ability to have an agreement that the player will turn down arbitration as a favor is crap because it is against the spirit and intent of the rule.....but as long as it is there, I&#039;m sure everyone is taking advantage of it.

Still, the Phillies won&#039;t get anything out of this unless Ibanez signs with someone else....how likely is that?  Who wants a 40 yr old OF that can&#039;t hit or play defense?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that would just be silly.  Why should you get compensation for losing a guy you didn&#8217;t want to keep?</p>
<p>Plus, you only get compensation if the guy turns you down and then signs a major league deal with another team.</p>
<p>I think the ability to have an agreement that the player will turn down arbitration as a favor is crap because it is against the spirit and intent of the rule&#8230;..but as long as it is there, I&#8217;m sure everyone is taking advantage of it.</p>
<p>Still, the Phillies won&#8217;t get anything out of this unless Ibanez signs with someone else&#8230;.how likely is that?  Who wants a 40 yr old OF that can&#8217;t hit or play defense?</p>
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		<title>By: PanchoHerreraFanClub</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PanchoHerreraFanClub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could be wrong, but under the new CBA you don&#039;t have to offer arbitration to get a draft pick for a Type B.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could be wrong, but under the new CBA you don&#8217;t have to offer arbitration to get a draft pick for a Type B.</p>
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		<title>By: spudchukar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spudchukar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 03:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rumor has it that the surgery didn&#039;t go well, and opening day is doubtful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumor has it that the surgery didn&#8217;t go well, and opening day is doubtful.</p>
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		<title>By: firedude7160</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 02:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear god I hope so! I don&#039;t think I could take another year of his &quot;I&#039;m gonna hit for a week, and then take a 2 month break&quot; style]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear god I hope so! I don&#8217;t think I could take another year of his &#8220;I&#8217;m gonna hit for a week, and then take a 2 month break&#8221; style</p>
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		<title>By: xmatt0926x</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 02:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s also one of the nicest human beings you will ever meet and extremely charitable. These aspects of his reputation are well accepted. But that&#039;s probably not as meaningful as the whole &quot;one side full of chaw&quot; thing that you hate him for.  That all being said, if he does not have an &quot;understanding&quot; that he will turn down arbitration and accepts, I will personally hire the guy from Assassins Creed to hunt down Amaro and end all this madness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s also one of the nicest human beings you will ever meet and extremely charitable. These aspects of his reputation are well accepted. But that&#8217;s probably not as meaningful as the whole &#8220;one side full of chaw&#8221; thing that you hate him for.  That all being said, if he does not have an &#8220;understanding&#8221; that he will turn down arbitration and accepts, I will personally hire the guy from Assassins Creed to hunt down Amaro and end all this madness.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of your most substantial contributions to a discussion here so far, if not &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; most.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of your most substantial contributions to a discussion here so far, if not <i>the</i> most.</p>
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		<title>By: hushbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hushbrother]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My least favorite player, Raul Ibanez. Can&#039;t stand the way he always has that stupid intense one-side-full-of-chaw expression on his face and constantly taking off is helmet to show his sweaty bald head. And the fact that he&#039;s a Phillie. Never has a player looked so intense while putting up a sub-.700 OPS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My least favorite player, Raul Ibanez. Can&#8217;t stand the way he always has that stupid intense one-side-full-of-chaw expression on his face and constantly taking off is helmet to show his sweaty bald head. And the fact that he&#8217;s a Phillie. Never has a player looked so intense while putting up a sub-.700 OPS.</p>
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		<title>By: chadjones27</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chadjones27]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And they move Pence, where? To the bullpen?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they move Pence, where? To the bullpen?</p>
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		<title>By: spudchukar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spudchukar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see, looks like Wiggington at 3B, Valdez SS, Utley 2B, Thome 1B, Ibanez LF, Victoino CF, and Cuddyer in RF.  The aces better perform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see, looks like Wiggington at 3B, Valdez SS, Utley 2B, Thome 1B, Ibanez LF, Victoino CF, and Cuddyer in RF.  The aces better perform.</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Murphy has been tweeting that RAJ is tight with Ibanez&#039;s agent and will decline arbitration as a favor to the team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Murphy has been tweeting that RAJ is tight with Ibanez&#8217;s agent and will decline arbitration as a favor to the team.</p>
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		<title>By: phillyphreak</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree there has to be some kind of understanding between them.  But wouldn&#039;t it be hilarious if he accepted.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there has to be some kind of understanding between them.  But wouldn&#8217;t it be hilarious if he accepted&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: somekat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[somekat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and the player would say, give me the arbitration offer, and get the big salary. Which would be why the article said they had &quot;some sort of agreement&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the player would say, give me the arbitration offer, and get the big salary. Which would be why the article said they had &#8220;some sort of agreement&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: hansob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hansob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[clearly there&#039;s an &quot;understanding&quot; between the two parties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clearly there&#8217;s an &#8220;understanding&#8221; between the two parties.</p>
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		<title>By: cup0pizza</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cup0pizza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rsnorth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rsnorth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t the Phillies only get a sandwich pick if Ibanez signs with another team? Otherwise teams would offer arbitration to all their free agents and tell them not to accept it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t the Phillies only get a sandwich pick if Ibanez signs with another team? Otherwise teams would offer arbitration to all their free agents and tell them not to accept it.</p>
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