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Bobby Valentine is getting a two-year deal

Dec 1, 2011, 11:34 AM EDT

Bobby Valentine

Jon Heyman reports that Bobby Valentine’s deal with the Red Sox is a two-year deal.

Makes sense for a couple of reasons. For one thing, if Valentine hasn’t had deep playoff runs with this Red Sox team by the end of 2013, he’s basically failed. It’s a win-now team and he has to win now, so there’s no use thinking that the success of the hire won’t be well-known by, oh, Father’s Day 2013.

Second, as Ken Rosenthal noted, John Farrell’s contract with the Blue Jays lasts through 2013 as well.  It’s no secret that the Red Sox would have liked to have had the chance to bring their former coach back to Boston, but were prevented from doing so by his contract situation. You never can tell what’s going to happen two years out, but this at least makes it possible that the Sox could have an easy transition after Bobby V’s race is run.

Valentine will be formally announced at a 5:30 press conference.

  1. uyf1950 - Dec 1, 2011 at 11:44 AM

    Can’t help but think that this marriage between Bobby V and the Red Sox is doomed to failure. It would seem from the piece that the Red Sox have already planned for Bobby’s replacement. This is just my opinion but Bobby may have been so desperate to get back into managing that he would have and did accept any terms.

    Makes you wonder if that was a condition with any of the other people they interviewed and why 1 or more may have withdrawn their names from consideration.

    • phukyouk - Dec 1, 2011 at 11:47 AM

      if Tito ends up on ESPN sunday night baseball i think that ESPN got the better end of that trade

      • uyf1950 - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:02 PM

        Francona already got the better of the deal. Just by leaving and ESPN rid of Bobby V. it’s a win, win.

    • mabunar - Dec 1, 2011 at 1:10 PM

      Who withdrew?

    • mabunar - Dec 1, 2011 at 1:18 PM

      What candidate should they have offered more than 2 years to? Maybe if Torre or LaRussa were walking around Yawkey…but to any of those other guys? If they offered someone 5 years, they’d be getting crucified for locking up an unproven person for so long.

      I think 2 years is fine for flexibility sake considering Valentine is neither a sure-thing, or a young guy that needs 3-4 years to get into the system. If he stinks, he’s gone. If he’s good, then either he gets an extension or goes onto another opportunity. I am not a fan of Valentine, but I like Valentine-and-see-what’s-around-in-2013 than get tied to one of the guys they talked to this year.

    • bigharold - Dec 1, 2011 at 4:29 PM

      “It would seem from the piece that the Red Sox have already planned for Bobby’s replacement.”

      Perhaps the RS FO are aware that with Valentine a little goes a long way?

      I’ve been thinking that if the RS don’t at least get into the playoffs next year whatever discord that is the result of his managerial style will start to, at least, be whispered about. If he rubs people the wrong way and they win, fine. But, a manager can’t do that and the on field results not be there.

      It is entirely possible that the all the speculation regarding Valentine and his pugnacious managerial style will present itself and generate all the expected results. I happen to think that Valentine being out of MLB for 10 years, certainly being older if not wiser and getting an opportunity with a team that has the potential and resources to get to the playoffs regularly if not the WS will temper his attitude. I expect him to be true to himself but I doubt that he’ll deliberately court confrontation and that he’ll work hard to have at least the appearance of a successful relationship with Cherington.

      At the end of the day, considering his reputation and his 10 year hiatus from MLB, his age and the very real possibility that this may be his last shot as a MLB manager position Valentine is aware that what is at stake. He’d have to be a moron not to make every effort to make this situation work. He may come across as a overbearing cocky know it all but that that doesn’t mean he can’t adapt.

  2. Jonny 5 - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM

    Bobby wanted more but his teeth weren’t all that pleased with the BoSox dental plan.

  3. ccmf69 - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:25 PM

    The good news…no more Bobby on Sunday Night Baseball…wow, he was annoying…but, then, I’m a big Jon Miller fan, and I still think he got a raw deal.

    • yournuts - Dec 1, 2011 at 1:04 PM

      Jon Miller was a homer! He was always rooting for the Giant’s. If your going to do Sunday night baseball, at least be impartial during the games.

      • 18thstreet - Dec 1, 2011 at 4:18 PM

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  4. bobwsc - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:29 PM

    wonder if he’ll bring Hershiser along as pitching coach. that would make the sunday night broadcasts more palatable.

  5. WhenMattStairsIsKing - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:30 PM

    Two years also gives Bobby enough time to decide if he wants to continue managing from a long-term standpoint, now that his managing career is in its fourth decade. The game can certainly wear you down, and this may give both sides time to decide if he’s only worth managing those 324 games.

    • uyf1950 - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:32 PM

      Are you assuming he doesn’t get thrown out of any games in 2 years?

      • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:34 PM

        I thought it would be a more fun and microscopic view of his (we think) guaranteed Boston management tenure. We can throw in a margin of error of 8 games he’s thrown out of.

  6. deathmonkey41 - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:32 PM

    Too bad the Red Sox couldn’t have named Chris Berman as their manager then. If I never had to see him doing football or baseball ever again, I’d be a happy f%#*%&g camper.

    • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM

      Could you imagine a back injury by a Boston player, and how Chris would address the media regarding such an issue?

      “He’ll be BACK-BACK-BACK soon from his BACK-BACK-BACK-BACK-BACK injury.”

  7. stackers1 - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:39 PM

    I would take Bobby over the law firm of Miller & Morgan any Sunday night.

    • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:44 PM

      “The problem is, batting average is too advanced for baseball. So are RBI’s and stolen base counts. That’s just not baseball. You watch a guy, and you just know he’s good, and that’s all you need to know.” ~ What I hear every time Morgan opens his mouth.

  8. uyf1950 - Dec 1, 2011 at 12:59 PM

    At least there is one challenge that Bobby V won’t have to face. That’s trying to figure out a way to get Papelbon to speed up his delivery. That challenge now falls to the Phillies Charlie Manuel. Phillies fans can now look forward to at least 10 more minutes of baseball at least in all the games that Papelbon appears in.

    • JBerardi - Dec 1, 2011 at 2:24 PM

      Ten minutes if he retires the side in order. Which he doesn’t.

      • phukyouk - Dec 1, 2011 at 2:48 PM

        WIN!

  9. bozosforall - Dec 1, 2011 at 3:41 PM

    Way to show confidence in the guy, Beantown Idiots. LMAO

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