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White Sox aim for Montero, Banuelos in Danks talks with Yankees

Dec 5, 2011, 2:06 PM EDT

John Danks AP’s Jon Heyman reports that the White Sox have asked the Yankees for both Jesus Montero and Manny Banuelos in a John Danks deal.

Danks, 26, is coming off a year in which he went 8-12 with a 4.33 ERA, but he will be highly coveted by several teams in trade talks. The durable left-hander finished with ERAs of 3.77 and 3.72 the two previous year, and he’s fanned seven batters per nine innings over the course of his career. He’s been on the disabled list just once as a major leaguer, that coming last season due to a strained oblique.

But while a lot of teams would love to slot Danks into their rotation, the Yankees aren’t going to give up their top two prospects for him. It’s doubtful they’d part with either Montero or Banuelos. Danks has just one year left before free agency, limiting his trade value, and he’s due to make $8 million or so in arbitration next year.

A Danks trade could be expanded to include left-handed reliever Matt Thornton, but that still wouldn’t pry away Banuelos from the Yankees. The White Sox will need to aim a little lower.

  1. churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:09 PM’s Jon Heyman reports that the White Sox have asked the Yankees for both Jesus Montero and Manny Banuelos in a John Danks deal.

    Allow me to be the first to say, HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAA. Good one Kenny Williams.

    • proudlycanadian - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:18 PM

      Assuming that the story was true, I suspect that Kenny was just trying to jerk the Yankees around a bit.

      • Kevin S. - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM

        He’s still bitter that he gave away Nick Swisher because Brian Cashman understands BABIP anomalies and he doesn’t.

    • fredverd - Dec 5, 2011 at 4:23 PM

      You know, we could also throw in either Granderson or Teixeira (Sox’ choice!) because good deals come in threes! We sure do need that 8-12, 4.33 down the stretch…Maybe a case of scotch (single malt) to sweeten the deal…

      • fredverd - Dec 5, 2011 at 5:06 PM

        Is the “thumbs down” from Danks himself?

  2. emeraldcityfan - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:13 PM

    The Yanks wouldn’t trade either player straight up for Danks. With a offer like that, the White Sox are probably still a little sore over the Wilson Betemit and Jeff Marquez for Nick Swisher and Boone Logan trade a few years back.

  3. uyf1950 - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:14 PM

    That trade ain’t gonna happen at those prices. Just to expand on Matthew’s very last comment and aim a lot lower.

  4. phukyouk - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:27 PM

    8-12 with a 4.33??? lets throw in Betances, Nunez, Garder and Romaine as well… i mean THAT is some quality pitching right there. wait… we are talking about AJ, right?

  5. whatthehellisansky - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:35 PM

    I actually laughed out loud reading this headline…hahahah

    • phukyouk - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:40 PM

      at least they didnt say “Want”, right?

  6. Francisco (FC) - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:40 PM

    But not so low they shoot themselves in the foot!

  7. scatterbrian - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM

    Is this the first time ever some team has aimed high in trade negotiations?

  8. The Wizard - Dec 5, 2011 at 4:16 PM

    I agree that Montero is asking a lot but why is Banuelos alone too much?

    I’m looking at B-R and I see Banuelos had a 1.85 K/BB ratio and a 1.527 WHIP in 110.2 AA innings (15.1 were in 2010), and a 1.63 K/BB ratio and 1.602 WHIP in 43.1 AAA innings in 2011.

    Danks had a 2.93 K/BB ratio and a 1.304 WHIP in 170.1 innings in the majors in 2011.

    I don’t understand the notion Banuelos is too much. What is the chance Banuelos becomes a Danks? Is it higher than 20%?

    Just asking!

    • lardin - Dec 5, 2011 at 4:32 PM

      because hes 20 years old in AAA, left handed and throws in the mid 90’s and his projected to be a front of the Rotation starter.

      Think Billy Wagner in his prime, but with more than one off speed pitches, Or Johan Santana with better velocity.

      For the scouting report go to:

      • The Wizard - Dec 5, 2011 at 7:49 PM

        thanks for the reply

    • Kevin S. - Dec 5, 2011 at 4:36 PM

      Projection and team control. Banuelos was twenty years old last year in AA, pitching against the top prospects in baseball, most of whom were a couple years older than him (most top prospects don’t go to AAA). While his walk rates last year were troublesome, he strikes people out and keeps the ball in the park. While John Danks would obviously help the Yankees more next year, it’s the only year he’s still under team control, and if Joel Sherman’s sources are correct, the Yankees need to be under $189 million at least once in the ’14-’16 seasons, as the repeat-offender penalty on the luxury tax is finally significant enough to deter them. Having someone like Banuelos in the rotation making nothing would go a long, long way to assuring the Yankees can get under that number while remaining one of the best teams in the league.

      Further, the Yankees probably have a deep enough system to make a competitive offer on Danks without even touching Montero or Banuelos.

      • The Wizard - Dec 5, 2011 at 7:52 PM

        thank you too for the reply

  9. randygnyc - Dec 5, 2011 at 4:36 PM

    If Banuelos becomes just a Danks level pitcher, we have to scrap our entire scouting and player development programs here in NY. Kenny Williams is on crack. How about Cervelli for danks AND thornton. And we’ll throw in a Jeter game used autographed jockstrap.

  10. pisano - Dec 5, 2011 at 5:05 PM

    I think randynyc nailed it right on when he said Kenny Williams is on crack. He may feel Cashman is some dumb, but he’s not plumb dumb.

  11. unclemosesgreen - Dec 5, 2011 at 5:30 PM

    That’s called using Jon Heyman to send a message to the other teams that Danks won’t come cheap. Why should Scott Boras be the only one pulling Heyman’s strings?

  12. bozosforall - Dec 5, 2011 at 7:55 PM

    Cashman has been holding onto his top prospects for the last couple years now…yet the Yankees still won the AL East with a cobbled-together pitching staff (and a subpar AJ and Hughes pitching). As if he is going to give up those same prospects for a middle-of-the-road guy like Danks. He was unwilling to give up any prospects for Johan Santana just a few years back…and Santana, when healthy, is a much more attractive guy than Danks…at least he was back when the deals were unfolding.

    No, Kenny…you can keep Danks and your ridiculous trade demands. Cashman will laugh all the way through the next several years, when his starting rotation will be CC, Nova, Banuelos, Betances and Hughes (or maybe some other low-cost mid-level starter willing to take less to be a part of the next Yankee dynasty).

  13. cackalackyank - Dec 5, 2011 at 9:29 PM

    Well there is that song from Blondie…you know Dreamin…Dreamin is free… Yes Brian I would like Montero, Banuelos and your next five draft picks, and a swanky beachfront condo, and a fully loaded Mercedes, and and and..yup that’s going to happen…LMAO

  14. bottomoftheswamp - Dec 6, 2011 at 12:07 AM

    This is so funny! I can’t stop laughing. Did the White Sox front office just go insane or do they enjoy making jokes of themselves?

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