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UPDATE: David Ortiz to accept arbitration, stay with Red Sox

Dec 6, 2011, 7:00 PM EDT

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7:00 p.m. EST update: ESPN Deportes’ Enrique Rojas reports that Ortiz is planning to accept Boston’s offer of arbitration, something that should guarantee him at least a modest raise from the $12.5 million he made last season. The Red Sox still might be able to change his mind by offering him an improved two-year contract. Ortiz has made it clear in the past they he prefers being on a multiyear deal.

6:50 p.m. EST update: WEEI’s Alex Speier is confirming the McDonald report of a two-year, $18 million offer and says that Ortiz is looking for $25 million. Ortiz’s agent and the Red Sox are due to meet again tonight.

4:35 p.m. EST update: ESPN Boston’s Joe McDonald reports that the Red Sox have offered Ortiz a two-year, $18 million deal. Considering that Ortiz has the arbitration leverage, that’s not going to get a deal done. Ortiz made $12.5 million last season and has a great case for a raise in arbitration based on his production. $25 million for two years seems like a much more suitable meeting place.

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The Boston Globe’s Peter Abraham reports that there “does not seem to be a team legitimately interested in David Ortiz beyond the Red Sox,” and ESPNBoston.com states that “one way or another” Ortiz will remain with Boston.

The one way or another comes down to the Red Sox’s arbitration offer. Ortiz could accept that and potentially make $14 million-$15 million next year. Alternatively, he could re-up for two years at something like $25 million total.

Ortiz has until midnight Wednesday to accept the arbitration offer.

The 36-year-old Ortiz is coming off his best season since 2007, having hit .309/.398/.554 with 29 homers and 96 RBI in 525 at-bats. However, there are several other DH options available, all of whom would come much cheaper. Add in the fact that Ortiz would cost his signing team a draft pick and it’s easy to see why there isn’t much demand for his services.

  1. randygnyc - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:04 PM

    He deserves 25 million for each of the next 5 years. Red sox should compensate him for all that he’s done for them.

    • bozosforall - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:39 PM

      Agreed, randy. In fact, they should give raises to both Youkilis and Scutaro as well. Bard is due for a nice bump in salary too. $200 million payroll is up ahead. LMAO

      • randygnyc - Dec 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM

        And they should offer both Beckett and dice K 3 yr extensions, lmao.

    • dafatman - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM

      hmmmm…..let’s see. Pay him the next 5 years for s/thing that he did, for which he was already paid during those years? yup, makes a whole lot of sense. Try getting that from YOUR boss.

      • bozosforall - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:28 PM

        $15 million for next year, here we come. LMAO

    • pjmarn6 - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:55 PM

      I’m glad that fans are starting to understand that ballplayers are just big kids playing a child’s game and are wildly over paid. 35 is just the age that most ball players retire or on the down swing. Look at Alex Rodriguez. He got $32.5 million for hitting .276 and driving in 66 rbis. His last swing in the playoffs cost the Yankees $9,000 and he struck out. Time to drive down salaries, pay for production and no guaranteed salaries. If a player knows he is going to be paid for production and not automatically get a guaranteed pay check, every pitch and every at bat is going to be exciting.

    • pjmarn6 - Dec 6, 2011 at 8:10 PM

      Look at his stats. His best years are behind him. Anyone who picks him up is going against the law of diminishing returns.

  2. cur68 - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:07 PM

    Craig’s hat hopes like hell you are right Mathew.

  3. spudchukar - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:24 PM

    Is he considering switch-hitting?

    • bozosforall - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:40 PM

      All of the Red Sox “switch hit”. It’s a locker room tradition.

      • cur68 - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:42 PM

        All bozos are “douchers”. It’s a bozo tradition.

      • bozosforall - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:53 PM

        If by that you mean that you know that I”m constantly getting into the coochie, then you would be absolutely correct.

      • cur68 - Dec 6, 2011 at 5:57 PM

        If by that I mean that you are constantly sour and stinking, then I would be absolutely correct.

      • bozosforall - Dec 6, 2011 at 6:39 PM

        The only “stinky and sour” posters here are you lame old-time regulars, cur68.

        I did figure out what the “68” in your name stands for though…you give him a BJ and then he owes you one.

      • JBerardi - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM

        Bozo, you sure do spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex while you’re on a baseball site.

      • bozosforall - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:25 PM

        Hard not to, with all you little poofters posting here. Not that there is anything wrong with that, so go ahead and come out of the closet, New Englanders. We all know that you are all marrying each other in record numbers up there, so you might as well show your pride about it as well.

      • JBerardi - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:45 PM

        “Hard not to, with all you little poofters posting here.”

        I have a word for you: projection. And I ain’t talking about PECOTA.

      • cur68 - Dec 6, 2011 at 8:41 PM

        Bozo’s the only “stinky and sour” poster here unlike the old-time regulars.

        I did figure out what the “Bozo″ in your name stands for though…bozo definition. [ˈbozo]. n. a clown; a jerk; a fool. (Also a term of address.) : Look, you bozo, I’ve had enough of your jabber…

        JB’s right. You make a lot of gay slurs, talk about blow jobs a lot and brag in vulgar terms about what a stud you are. Practically diagnostic. Y’see, as a student I spent a lot of clinical time among the differently sane and the sexually confused. In my professional opinion you qualify as both.

      • bozosforall - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:34 AM

        JBerardi – Dec 6, 2011 at 7:45 PM
        “Hard not to, with all you little poofters posting here.”

        I have a word for you: projection. And I ain’t talking about PECOTA.

        __
        I have two words for you: “Dream on”.

      • bozosforall - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:36 AM

        cur68 – Dec 6, 2011 at 8:41 PM
        Bozo’s the only “stinky and sour” poster here unlike the old-time regulars.

        I did figure out what the “Bozo″ in your name stands for though…bozo definition. [ˈbozo]. n. a clown; a jerk; a fool. (Also a term of address.) : Look, you bozo, I’ve had enough of your jabber…

        JB’s right. You make a lot of gay slurs, talk about blow jobs a lot and brag in vulgar terms about what a stud you are. Practically diagnostic. Y’see, as a student I spent a lot of clinical time among the differently sane and the sexually confused. In my professional opinion you qualify as both.
        __
        My advice to you is to stay in school, son…because it’s obvious that you won’t make it in the real world if what someone says on the Internet bothers you that much.

        And my screen name is just that…a screen name. To place any amount of importance on its “meaning” only shows how out of touch you really are with real life.

  4. sknut - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:47 PM

    To me the best thing is for Ortiz to accept arb and then the Sox aren’t tied down with his contract after this year. I would be nervous to give him more than one year.

  5. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2011 at 5:17 PM

    It is not about what his production is worth, it is about who would be willing to give him more than 2/$18MM. I’d guess nobody. He’ll probably make more money going year to year in arb. If he thinks he can do better on the open market, he should give it a try.

    After that Boston collapse, I would imagine some folks in the Red Sox management would not mind seeing him go. There was a lot of talk about the lack of leadership in the clubhouse, so what was he doing with all that time when he wasn’t playing the field? Or ranting about his RBIs? Or his contract? Or investigating his PED bust? Or trimming his douche-beard?

    • pjmarn6 - Dec 6, 2011 at 8:06 PM

      haven’t you thought why there are no better offers? Perhaps owners are getting a little smarter and understanding that a 35 year old ball player is over the hill and there are thousands of new players out there ready to take his place at a fraction of the cost. And if they don’t pan out, there are thousands more to take his place?

  6. uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2011 at 5:20 PM

    I wonder how many Red Sox fans thought a 2 year deal after the 2010 season to a then 35 year old Ortiz’s was a concern? I’d bet a whole bunch. Just think if they had given Ortiz 2 years then they wouldn’t be going through all of this now. And a 2 year deal after the 2010 season probably would have wound up costing the Red Sox less than these 2 one year deals ($12.5 in 2010 and potentially $15MM this year). Moral of story, their comes a point when being overly cautious may come back to bit you in the ass. Sometimes you just need to take a leap of faith.

    • bozosforall - Dec 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM

      Red Sux fans thought that he would play for cheap…just like they always think players will. Players continue to prove them wrong. No one wants to play in that craphole of a city without substantial compensation.

      • JBerardi - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:09 PM

        Man, New York must be a REALLY shitty city by that standard…

      • hammyofdoom - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:12 PM

        Ya know, nothing bothers me more than when “sports fans” use phrases like “Red Sux” or “Skankees”, it gives me the mental image of 12 year olds screaming in headphones while playing Halo. Just sayin’

      • bozosforall - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:37 AM

        No different that the image of ANYONE who posts on a website on a daily basis and cries when someone “insults” them. Get over yourselves, losers.

  7. neelyisgod - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:03 PM

    Let him walk and spend the money on new cheap seats at Fenway. I’d rather sit in the back seat of a Fiero…oh wait there is no back seat. No difference either way

    • hammyofdoom - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:14 PM

      Erm he’s not “walking”, hes accepting arbitration. No matter what, he’s back with the Sox

  8. JBerardi - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:08 PM

    He’s going to accept arbitration? Neat! Probably the best outcome the Red Sox could have hoped for here.

    • bozosforall - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:27 PM

      Costing them top dollar (probably $15 million for next season), further jacking up that payroll. Just more proof that they are trying to buy a title. Tom Yawkey would be proud.

      • JBerardi - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:42 PM

        Yes, Tom Yawkey bought so many titles in his day… wait, what?

      • dwrek5 - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:26 PM

        Gawd, cant believe Im about to stick up for the Red Sox, but…

        1. Give them credit for getting a DH that can actually hit? How many teams want flexibility in that spot and end up with a guy that has a 700 OPS at DH just so its flexible.

        2. Pedroia, Lester, Ellsbury, Bard…

        3. Better than the owners pocketing it. Isnt this what fans want? For owners to spend on the team? They didnt steal him from a small market team or outbid anyone. Arbitration offered, arb accepted.

      • bozosforall - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM

        JBerardi – Dec 6, 2011 at 7:42 PM
        Yes, Tom Yawkey bought so many titles in his day… wait, what?

        __
        He TRIED…I never said that he was successful. LMAO

  9. stinkinfish - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:33 PM

    Can the Sox revoke the offer of arbitration at this point after seeing that there is no market for him? Why pay him $14 mil when you don’t have to?

    • hammyofdoom - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:45 PM

      I’ve thought of that. Seriously, if 2 years for 25 million signs him (which is what he wants) thats only 9 million more than what he’s probably getting in arbitration. And even then you can probably negotiate that down to something more like 2/20, wouldn’t that be better for your club? Sure its a second year, but isn’t it better with how strapped they are for cash this offseason?

  10. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM

    At what point can they non-tender him? Do they still have that option? Henry could always “leak” so trashy stories to the press to make it look like Ortiz needed to go. They are classy like that.

    • Matthew Pouliot - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:26 PM

      Nope, he’s already been offered arbitration. No takebacks.

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