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UPDATE: Mets trade Angel Pagan to Giants for Andres Torres and Ramon Ramirez

Dec 6, 2011, 9:56 PM EDT

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UPDATE: Steve Popper of the Bergen Record confirms that the deal is done, pending physicals.

9:49 PM: According to Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News, the Mets are discussing a deal that would send Angel Pagan to the Giants for Andres Torres and Ramon Ramirez.

Baggarly writes that it’s not definite yet, but appears promising. It certainly fits the criteria mentioned by Ken Rosenthal a little earlier when he called it a “change of scenery” deal.

Pagan, 30, is coming off a down year in which he batted .262/.322/.372 with seven home runs, 56 RBI and a .694 OPS over 532 plate appearances. He also led major league center fielder with 10 errors. The Mets have said that they plan to tender him a contract, but he figures to make around $5 million in arbitration.

Torres, 33, had an even worse year in 2011, batting .221/.312/.330 with four home runs, 19 RBI and a .643 OPS over 398 plate appearances. He is due between $2-3 million in arbitration and was a clear non-tender candidate following the recent acquisition of Melky Cabrera.

As for Ramirez, Ken Rosenthal reported late last month that the Giants planned to shop him so that they could upgrade in other areas. He’s due about $2 million through the arbitration process. The 30-year-old right-hander posted a 2.62 ERA and 66/26 K/BB ratio over 68 2/3 innings this season.

While Torres is the superior defender in center field, Pagan is three years younger and is probably the better bet for a bounceback year offensively. Mets GM Sandy Alderson is working with a limited budget this offseason, so he will pay Torres and Ramirez combined what he would have paid Pagan. From a pure salary standpoint, this works perfectly. But the Giants could come out on top here.

  1. Kyle - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:05 PM

    Wow check out Brian Sabean over here. Not a bad little move by the Giants.

  2. dondada10 - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:05 PM

    Torres is 33, but he had a 6.8 WAR in 2010 with 22 runs saved on defense.

    If the Mets get half of those numbers and the Ramirez from last season it’s a win for the Mets.

  3. hammyofdoom - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:06 PM

    I want to be able to say something about this trade, but its two high defense/low offense CF and one relief pitcher than when he’s on, hes fantastic. Go mets, at least they got their RP out of it

  4. Ben - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:07 PM

    Breaking: Two teams swap identical players. More at 8.

    Ok, not quite, but kind of an odd trade.

  5. dwrek5 - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:13 PM

    Mets/Giants swap Torres and Pagan… Will anyone notice?

    • dondada10 - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM

      No, nobody would. But Ramirez was actually pretty good last year.

  6. mrznyc - Dec 7, 2011 at 8:20 AM

    Bernie Madoff’s real crime was that he gave the Wilpons the money to buy the Mets.

  7. sdelmonte - Dec 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM

    Jury’s out on this one. Change of scenery trades sometimes work. But no way to predict.

    I think this is more Alderson getting rid of a player he didn’t think would turn it back on again, and getting extra value in the process.

  8. ccmf69 - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:49 AM

    Hitting .262 for the Giants last year would have practically made him Ted Williams…
    Note to DJ…glad you found out where Bags works:)

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