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Report: Marlins’ offer to Albert Pujols tops $200 million

Dec 6, 2011, 12:48 PM EDT

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Bob Nightengale of USA Today has some specifics on the Marlins’ 10-year offer to Albert Pujols, reporting that the proposal is “in excess of $200 million.”

Last week when the Marlins reportedly made a nine-year offer to Pujols it was said to be for significantly less than the $200 million or so the Cardials offered him earlier this year.

Obviously a 10-year offer to Pujols should be expected to top $200 million–anything less than $20 million per season would seem sort of silly–but if nothing else this shows once again how serious the Marlins are.

And if the two sides are truly talking about no-trade clauses that suggests they’re fairly deep into negotiations.

  1. mvp43 - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:05 PM

    Wow…………..they can have him at that price.

    • florida727 - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:53 PM

      I keep waiting for these types of contracts to ruin the sport, but they keep handing them out. I like what “Amadeus” wrote below… the drug cartel laundering money through the Marlins. Either their attendance doesn’t translate to that type of spending, or most of their fans think it’s Halloween and come to the games disguised as empty seats. That place is habitually empty. TV contracts worth that much? Really?

      • pjmarn6 - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:38 PM

        Why are the Occupiers not hitting organized sports with sitins?
        Look at Pujols stats. Batting average down four years in a row, rbi’s down three years in a row. He is 31. History has demonstrated that 95% of players are finished by the time they are 35. The real idiots are the team owners who pay these outlandish salaries to overgrown children who play a children’s game.
        And according to a recent sports story 78% of these new millionaires are broke in less than five years. They just piss the money away.
        I really have to wonder if the steroid ban is a direct correlation with Pujols decreased average and rbi total. We know it had a direct effect on pitching and home run totals. And we know that management kept quiet to keep the sears filled. Whoever wins this boobie prize, how are they going to explain paying $20 million a season to a .275 hitter like the Yankees paid Alex Rodriguez $32.5 million this year for hitting .276.
        Think! If these players had a salary CAP of $ 1 million wouldn’t they be more interested in protecting and investing that money wisely? When they see these huge numbers, they figure the gravy train is never going to end and flush the money right down the crapper.

      • pjmarn6 - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:40 PM


      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 5:05 PM

        PJ: Ummm…because this year A.P. hit .299/37/99 in his “worse” year.
        Because (for example)…Ryan Howard was paid 20 MILLION A YEAR in 2011.
        Let’s compare….
        Albert Pujols career averages: .328/40/120 (155 GAMES A YEAR) w/ 3 Gold Gloves.
        Ryan Howard career averages: .275/35/108 (128 GAMES A YEAR) w/ ZERO Gold Gloves.
        As a side note…
        A.P. averages 64 Strikeouts per year while Howard averages 150 strikeouts.
        Think about that for a moment…
        Howards strikeout rate is more than DOUBLE that of Alberts.
        One last thought…Albert was paid $14,508,395 in 2011.

    • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:30 PM

      MVP: They can have him at what price? The only thing (substantial) we have to go on is the 200 for 10. 20 Million per year for AP is a bargain. In fact, its 2 Million LESS than the Cardinals “potentially” offered prior to Spring Training. Did I miss something concrete…numbers wise?

    • rbirdfan - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:22 PM

      Has MLB looked at the Marlins finances. Does this seem strange to anyone else that a team that has poor attendence historically, never participated in the free agent market is suddenly this aggressive. Just because because they build a new stadium doesn
      ‘t mean fans will attend games. Anyone remember the Pirates? MLB better get on this, are they will be dealing with another Dodger/Mets type financial mess.

      Good luck Albert enjoyed your time as a Cardinal but 10 years too long. Cardinals use the money and sign a couple good free agents potentially still cheaper and better team. If you do nothing you will have PR problem.

  2. paperlions - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM


  3. cur68 - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:16 PM

    If this is true, Phat Al will dress in rainbow next season. Mind + Boggled = me.

  4. El Bravo - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM

    At the very least, I’m loving this b/c it’s an exciting day for baseball! But, yes, my mind is getting increasingly boggled as well.

  5. thevandalen - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:29 PM

    So… what do you do with Gabby Sanchez and Logan Morrison? Trade them to St. Louis? I don’t get what the Marlins are doing here.

    • southbeachtalent - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:33 PM

      trade for pitching??

  6. hasbeen5 - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:34 PM

    I haven’t followed this saga much, but is Pujols set on 10 years? If not, offer him the same amount of money for 8 years. He gets the higher annual rate that he wants, and the team isn’t stuck with a 41 and 42 year old at the back end.

  7. Amadeus - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:41 PM

    Reyes, Ozzie & Pujols, et al. may as well move the team to Tijuana. The drug cartel must be laundering their money through the Fla. Marlins. Where else are they getting the dough?

  8. papacrick - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM

    So he’s gonna be the oldest and highest paid player to ever put on a uniform. If reports are true, this will make him about 52 years old when the contract expires.

    • presidentmiraflores - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM

      Julio Franco and Jamie Moyer frown upon your comment.

  9. rooney24 - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:06 PM

    Granted, most of us would want as much money as we can get in most situations. But, when we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars, does an extra $10-20 million really make that much difference in the long run? Was Pujols really just that offended by the Cards offer and just wants to teach them a lesson? The Cards offer was reportedly at least $190 million. Isn’t that more money that Albert and his family can spend in a couple of lifetimes?

    When it is all said and done, I hope he is happy with whatever choice he makes, and whatever team he ends up with. As much as I would like to see him back in St. Louis, it is not in the Cards best interest to spend too much on him. If you tie up too much payroll on one or two guys (like the Twins), you can’t afford players around him, unless you are Boston or the Yankees.

  10. tastybasslines - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM

    Look at Pujol’s player card. His production has declined in 4 major categories, 4 STRAIGHT years.

    If I was a GM, there is no way I would sign him, but because there are so many Latinos in Miami, this is about getting fans in the seats to recoup their money and there is no bigger Latino star like Pujols. Part of the reason they signed Reyes as well.

    • pjmarn6 - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM

      tastybasslines. you are an extremely intelligent person. Baseball has published stats on every player and the average player last 3.5 years. All the superstars who play after 30 are 95% finished by 35. Berra, Dimaggio brothers, Ruth and if you look at the hangers on, it was only for the name. The stats clearly demonstrate a diminishing return on investment. Much better to give a young kid a start and see enthusiasm and youth than washed up has beens. Cruel but baseball is a business. Get the new talent up and cut salaries 80%. Go to a production pay off. So much per hit, rbi, home run, era, strike out and the salary is strictly dependent on performance, then you will see real action. Every at bat will count, every pitch will count, as every player will know that his salary this week will depend on his contribution. Would you guarantee your mechanic a ridiculous payment for fixing your can and then couldn’t get a dime back when it stops running in a week or two? A guaranteed salary is a guarantee that you are not going to get the best from players.

      • tastybasslines - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:12 PM

        Exactly. Pujols is no different.

        Going back and looking at his stats again, I see that it’s actually more than 4 categories…many other important ones show 3 year declines. It’s mostly across the board.

        Florida seems hell bent on creating a powerhouse team that will bring the fans – and revenue.

      • semperfiguy1011 - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:52 PM

        I couldn’t agree more with the both of you. His production is down, why put down that much $$ on a player who is coming to the tail end of his most productive years? And, If I’m Pujols, why not stay in St. Louis where he is a hero. St. Louis is a baseball crazy town where he can retire after a career with one team and be a part of Cardinals lore. He could be as big as Stan the man. He already has more than enough cash.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 5:51 PM

        PJ: Our great Country is based upon a free market system. You (or your product and/or service) are “worth” what someone is willing to pay you. Do I think Athletes are overpaid? Absolutely. No different than Actors being paid 25 million dollars PER MOVIE. But both are entertainment. Both put asses in the seats. People show up to watch them perform their “jobs.” It is matter of what you bring to the table. Society puts a premium (sometimes unfortunately) on entertainment. Does this make their “jobs” more meaningful and/or important than those performed by Doctors, Teachers, Firefighters or Police Officers? Hell no. When someone starts referencing occupiers, talks about mandating individual salary caps and mentions athletes “figure the gravy train is never going to end and flush the money right down the crapper” that makes me cringe. Because it is THEIR MONEY TO FLUSH. They don’t need ME, YOU or the Banana Republic doing their thinking for them. Cause’ what you refer to as a “Salary Cap” is what separates us from those in Countries who’s Governments give them individual stipends, hand outs, crutches AND do all the thinking for them. Wow.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 5:56 PM

        Semper Fi: I agree with most of what you posted. My biggest complaint is A.P. as always maintained that winning supersedes everything. Has always stated the money isn’t the primary factor. His family is set as it is. He wants to win consistantly…go to the playoffs consistently and compete for the World Series on a regular basis. If he is a Man of his word…should he leave St. Louis it better be to a perenial contender then.
        Otherwise, his is a liying sellout.

  11. mojosmagic - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM

    I agree this is mor about the Latino fan base the a smart baseball move. Prince Fielder makes a lot more sense. Anybody north of Ft Lauderdale won’t be buying tickets because of where the Marlins stadium is located.

  12. wegohardinthepaint - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:49 PM

    The fact that Reyes is there only sweetens the deal

  13. imaduffer - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:51 PM

    Pujols walks to the plate and is intentionally walked. WOW, that’s exciting!!! Of course what do you expect for 200 million?

  14. tribeallica - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM

    Wow…This guy will be 55 when he retires 😉

    • pjmarn6 - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:52 PM

      Remember that this year Alex Rodriguez had a 32.5 million dollar guaranteed contract and hit .276 with 66 rbis. His last swing in the players cost the owners $9,000 and he struck out on that swing.

      • JBerardi - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM

        What? Athletes make a lot of money?! When did this happen?! Has congress been notified?! Someone fetch the smelling salts, I fear this is all too much for my delicate constitution to handle…

  15. pjmarn6 - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:53 PM

    players=play offs

  16. 1historian - Dec 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM

    pjmarn6 – I am NOT making this up.

    The man who invented the flushing toilet was named (drum roll!!) – Thomas Crapper.

    We now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

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