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Report: Marlins offer to Pujols now ten years

Dec 6, 2011, 8:37 AM EDT

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Jon Heyman tweeted early this morning that the Marlins’ offer to Albert Pujols — which we earlier heard had been sweetened — was bumped up to ten years.

This, apart from being half-crazy given Pujols’ age, may not necessarily be a game-changer for the Marlins, however. Yes, a decade deal is pretty major, but as Buster Olney tweeted a minute ago, the reason Pujols has still not accepted the Cardinals’ offer is not because of contract length, but because of average annual value. Pujols may take shorter deal if someone can beat $22 million a year.

Still: the Marlins, contrary to what we thought a couple of weeks ago, are not screwing around.

  1. skeleteeth - Dec 6, 2011 at 8:39 AM

    Whoa, whoa, whoa…what’s this we?

    • bravojawja - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:12 AM

      Maybe it’s the “royal we”?

      • cur68 - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM

        Nah. I thought they were screwing around. ‘We’ is fair.

    • HitsDingers - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM

      I think it’s now known at the “Leitch we”

  2. proudlycanadian - Dec 6, 2011 at 8:39 AM

    Think of it as a 5 year deal with a 5 year annuity tacked on at the end.

    • 78mu - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM

      The last five years of the contract are to make up for Pujols over performing his contracts with the Cardinals. If the Marlins want to pay for what he did for through 2011, I’m sure the Cardinals will be more than happy to let them.

    • cardsfanindelaware - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:50 AM

      Just give the greedy bastard his $35 mil / yr for 5 years with club options for 3 more years afterwards.

  3. paperlions - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:16 AM

    Every time I see that pic, I think “wassuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup?”

    • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM

      Hahaha! I forgot all about those commercials Paper. Classic.

  4. sumerduckman - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:23 AM

    If Mr. Loria has all this extra cash, why didn’t he pay for his new sandbox/playpen/stadium himself?

    • paperlions - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:29 AM

      Because he didn’t have to.

      • Ari Collins - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:31 AM

        This.

        Both of this.

  5. realgone2 - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:25 AM

    Something sinister is afoot at Marlins HQ.

    • kiwicricket - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:39 AM

      Yes, top marks for using the word ‘afoot’ suitably before 9.30am.

  6. Francisco (FC) - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:26 AM

    Craig was sitting in the conference room at the head of the table, to his left sat Dan Lozano. The Winter Meetings were now a day old and a flurry of activity regarding free agents was being tossed around up, down, left and right. One had to move fast in this town to secure top talent! Craig set down his bubble pipe and concluded his presentation after sliding a folder to Dan.

    “As you can see Danny, we’re quite serious about having Al on board. The Marlins may be doing ten years, but heck we’ll give him twenty. Ten on the field and ten more in the dugout as Manager. With deferred money in secure investments through 2036. You can’t lose.”

    Dan took the folder, looking a bit uncomfortable and confused. And finally said: “Ok, I’m not exactly sure who you are or what team you represent, but why the heck are you wearing a bathrobe and why is your pipe spewing bubbles?”

  7. unlost1 - Dec 6, 2011 at 9:58 AM

    he needs a new agent. those prostitutes are too expensive.

    ok go ahead and give it the thumbs down.

  8. thefalcon123 - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM

    I didn’t like the city of Miami much before and I f**king hate it now.

    Seriously guys, you already got LeBron James down there, don’t do this again. Your city is just a bunch of home wrecking jerks.

    • paperlions - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:15 AM

      While I will be pissed if Pujols goes to Miami (or anywhere but StL, really), I can’t fault the Marlins for finally doing what people have been bitching about them not doing….spending money on players instead of lining their own pockets.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:02 PM

        Paper: I agree completely.
        But I CAN fault AP if he leaves and it is NOT to a perennial contender.
        After all…”The money isn’t the most important thing.” “My family is already taken care of.” “I want to win, be competitive every year, consistently make the playoffs and have a chance to compete for the World Series on a regular basis.”
        These quotes are why I never bought into the Cubs, Nationals (or previously anyway) the Marlins.
        I guess we shall see if he is a Man of his word.
        Because if he is…then it’s St. Louis, Texas or (maybe) Anaheim.
        Am I missing anyone else?
        Obviously exlcuding those who are already locked into extension contracts with their overpaid 1st Basemen.

    • southbeachtalent - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:19 AM

      home wrecking jerks! hahahahaha

      Thanks,

  9. bloodysock - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM

    This deal would give Lozano another year to hire more hookers.

  10. cintiphil - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:44 AM

    This is just lot of talk. No one is so stupid to give a 32 year old player a 10 year contract at 25+ mil a year. I thought it was understood that Albert was going NO where. Now it is a sure thing to go to Miami. Lets all wait to see what the agent and the buyers agree to.

  11. nagrommit - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    Pujols for 10 years? I think Jeff Loria has mixed up his papers “Sentencing Guidlines for Fraud Convictions” and “Potential Durations of 2011 Free Agent Contracts”

  12. wegohardinthepaint - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:11 AM

    serious offer, i see him really considering. Reyes being there only sweetens the deal.

    • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:03 PM

      Something I don’t understand…why does the Reyes deal sweeten anything?

  13. Old Gator - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:16 AM

    Madness. This is not the right market for Scrooge McLoria to be hocking that boxcar full of Vermeers, Mondrians, Van Goghs and Rembrandts his grandfather found covered with brush and camouflage netting in the Ardennes after the Battle of the Bulge.

    • 78mu - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:49 AM

      Don’t worry. I’m sure none of these contracts have no-trade clauses so they’ll be shipped off in a couple of years after Miami wins the WS.

      I’m sure teams will be happy to take on those contracts just like they are all trying to give the Cubs a couple of top prospects for Soriano .

  14. imaduffer - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:37 AM

    They come and they go. Not a big deal in Saint Louis. Now, if it was the Cubs, never mind.

    • paperlions - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:53 AM

      Not true, if Pujols leaves it will be a big deal. He is an iconic player, similar to Musial and Gibson for the previous generation, he is a player fans want to see be a Cardinal for life….if it isn’t, it will be a big deal and his legacy in StL will be quite different.

      ….and players like Pujols most certainly do not come and go…he is an all-time great….there is a reason they call them all-time greats, and it isn’t because they come around often.

      • imaduffer - Dec 6, 2011 at 12:06 PM

        Pujols will be lucky if he plays 100 games next year and the years following. And he certainly isn’t worth the money he’s after. Spend the money on pitching and their chances of returning to the playoffs would increase.

      • paperlions - Dec 6, 2011 at 12:59 PM

        I’ll put this as nicely as I can, you don’t need to say stupid things to make your point.

        Pujols has played at least 143 games every year of his 11 yr career, but magically he will now be lucky to play 100?

        The Cardinals have already spent money on pitching, the rotation is full…so they would need to get rid of some of it to spend money on pitching.

        AND…the Cardinals are LOADED with high up-side starters in the minors, three of which profile as #1/2 starters.

        Saying that signing Pujols to a 10 yr deal is crazy, is reasonable…you don’t have to resort to 12 kinds of stupidity to make the point.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:17 PM

        Alright…who are the Morons of gave Duffer two thumbs up in his 100 games post?

    • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM

      Duffer: I can only surmise that you are be sarcastic…or you are drunk. No big deal?
      Quite possibly the best to lace em’ up thus far? Easily top five at this point?
      They were all but set to have the next Bronze Statue erected outside the Gates.
      No big deal? Wow…the understatements…of all understatements.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:22 PM

        Paper: I gotta admit…after his comments in regards to AP not playing 100 games and he certainly isn’t worth what he is asking drivel I quit reading his post. Sooo…we are supposed to release our Pitching staff to stock up on pitching. A pitching staff who just went toe-to-toe with 3 of the best staffs a team could ask for and ultimately won the World Series. A World Series mind you…with the staff Ace out all year. Hahaha!

    • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:13 PM

      Duffer: So you don’t follow the game much huh? Only play 100 games? Do yourself a favor and take a look at his numbers. While doing so ALSO take a look at his Gold Glove Defense AND number of stolen bases every year. Yep…stolen bases. If memory serves…he led the team a few years back. “Not worth what he is asking.” Again…take a look at the numbers. Specifically…the existing salaries.
      As Bobby Cox stated (he is a well respected future Hall of Fame Manager who Managed the Braves for years)…”if Ryan Howard is worth 25 Million a year Albert Pujols is worth 50 Million per year.” Please do your homework prior to piping off. Otherwise, your ignorance is illustrated.
      Please know I mean NO disrespect to my use of the word ignorance.
      It is defined as “not informed.”

  15. thejotapee - Dec 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM

    I just bought season tickets!

  16. throwback723 - Dec 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM

    What many of you are failing to get is that if the Marlins get Albert, his value added to the team pays for his entire $200 million+ contract in the first three years. Attendance will more than double, and the added advertising and in-game revenues (which they FINALLY get to keep in the new stadium) brought in due to his addition will more than cover the additional salary expense. It’s actually really smart. Who cares if he even plays after the first few years? He would have already paid fro himself by then.

  17. outdoorwoman - Dec 6, 2011 at 12:19 PM

    Dear Mr. Pujols,

    I’ve been a StL fan for well over 40 years. We travelled to see you make history in Arlington as you pummeled our Texas Rangers 16 to 7 in October. You have been one of my 10 year old son’s favorite players for as long as I can remember. If 22 million per year isn’t enough for your ego, please don’t let the door hit you on your gluteus maximus on the way out of Busch Stadium (that’s your ass, in case you don’t understand human anatomy).

    There are countless fans that will just chalk your actions up to pure greed, and I, for one, will be in that crowd. How much money is enough? Honestly, with unemployment and hard times everywhere you look, what the heck can you spend that much money on? When we will stop putting athletes on pedestals? You, along with many of your peers, have proven that it truly is “all about the money.”

    If you leave arguably the most baseball-loving city in the nation, it will be YOUR loss, not theirs. You should be ashamed of yourself. With 99% of the U.S. population making less money in their lifetimes than you do IN ONE YEAR, we don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for you. Guess my sons’ two Pujols StL jerseys will be put out for recycling.

    Thank goodness we still have a role model in Josh Hamilton.

    Sincerely, a former fan who respected your integrity.

    • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:33 PM

      Outdoorwomen: Well stated. However, I will say that I completely appreciate someone wanting to be fairly compensated. Specifically…if you are the better than everyone else…I can fully understand wanting to be paid accordingly. I can also appreciate that he has grossly overperformed his previous contracts. In fact…re-uping early and leaving monies on the table. So…I can understand that he now wants to be paid accordingly as this is likely his final contract. With this in mind…what I will NOT accept is him leaving to an also ran. He has consistantly stated…numerous times over the last several years that winning (and WS titles) are most important to him. Further, he has stated he already has enough monies to take care of his family forever. Therefore, if he leaves it better be to a year-in-year out contender.
      Otherwise, he is a lying sellout. If he proves to being a lying sellout…the first time his team comes to Busch I will be thrown out of the stadium.

  18. vrwrld - Dec 6, 2011 at 12:44 PM

    This is just Friggin’ Nuts……………….there is ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, worth 22 million dollars a year…………….The only people I can think of who should even be considered for anything like that amount is the dortor(s) who really figure out the cuase and cure for such deveastating diseases as Cancer, Dimentia, and AIDS. No wonder ths stands are half empty, in most major sports………….no one can afford the ticket prices that have to be charged to pay for such ludicrous salaries………..

    • cintiphil - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:22 PM

      People are worth what someone is willing to pay for him. How much money will he bring to the team? How many games can he win for a team? Etc. Worth is a realitive term. You can not say no one is worth X. A person is worth a lot at times, and nothing at other times. In this case, I think that 22 mil is too much, but I could be wrong. It is only because of his poor health at times and the possibility that he is wearing out; visa vie last season. I think the risk is high that he will not repeat the great years he had with the Cardinals. If I am wrong and he bats .340 with 40 HR and 130 RBI’s, he is worth 22 Mil, and maybe more.

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