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The Marlins think they have Pujols in the bag

Dec 6, 2011, 1:48 PM EDT

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There’s no deal yet and as we all know, anything can happen until their is ink on paper and a fancy press conference, but David Villavicencio hears from Marlins sources that they believe they will sign Pujols. Like, they’re really confident.

Obviously what we’ve been hearing for the past hour or two still holds: The Cardinals are going to meet with Pujols’ agent again and we don’t know if they’ll match or come close to matching the Marlins’ offer. But if he does head down to Miami, this would be the biggest free agent news in several years, by my reckoning.

  1. thefalcon123 - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:51 PM

    I’m gonna throw up…

    • thefalcon123 - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM

      I realize in three days, I’ll be happy the Cardinals didn’t cripple themselves with an astronomical contract to extending into his early 40’s…for right now (if Pujols ends up signing with the Marlins), I choose to be bitter and angry at the Cardinals for not offering him a 50 year deal worth $100,000,000 a year and Pujols for not accepting whatever the Cardinals threw at him.

      I mean, the last time I was this angry was when the Cardinals traded Jim Edmonds for some A-baller in the Padres system and we all know how badly that turned out.

      • baseballisboring - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:01 PM

        Keith Law made a good point on his podcast today…he was saying that the Cardinals have to be a little scared of the Marlins, because they’re competing with the irrational team…if the Cards throw 10 years at him are the Marlins just gonna throw 11? I think whatever contract Pujols signs probably looks pretty bad by 2016. But I’d imagine losing Pujols would be pretty heart wrenching for a Cards fan.

      • paperlions - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:25 PM

        I will be bitter for longer than that…. intermittently, of course, one can’t go around being bitter 24/7/365….but I’ll be bitter on a regular basis until Pujols starts to decline significantly….at that point, and at that point only will I start to be less bitter….but I will still wonder how differently the intervening years would have played out with him at 1B.

      • HitsDingers - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM

        I think you mean mid-40s. Dude is like 35, right? JC Ovie-something told me that.

      • protius - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:59 AM

        Paperlions makes a good point about Albert’s decline. How comfortable is Albert going to feel stranded in a rabid Miami fan base when he starts to age and his skills begin deteriorating, a fan base that has only known him for…three or four years, and will turn on him the minute he shows weakness, or an inability to get around on an inside fast ball.

        He could, I suppose, choose to have his decline amid the more sympathetic,
        understanding and friendly fans of Busch Stadium where everybody knows his name. And they will love him even more for the great joy that he has given them; and he will help them to know the life of a great ball player by living vicariously through his Herculean efforts.

    • umrguy42 - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM

      I know. I’m officially panicking now.

    • beinhorntwins - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:30 PM

      why don’t you grow up, instead its all about the paper for these guys. once you embrace it you can enjoy the game.

    • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 6:03 PM

      My stomach hurts.

  2. wendell7 - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM


  3. El Bravo - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM

    Yeah, but does your hotel have a pool, Craig??? THAT’S what we need to know!,26795/

  4. thejotapee - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM

    I’m hoping this deal is money heavy on the front side of the deal and that the annual pay decreases as he gets older.

    • cintiphil - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:06 PM

      You have to be dreaming. Why would Albert accept a deal like that? he either wants it all the same year by year, or even some sort of option with bigger money.

      • randygnyc - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:13 PM

        And this deal still won’t be as large as Arod’s. Albert won’t be able to claim the “highest paid player” status, which otherwise could explain his motivation. At this point, I can’t quite figure out what that might possibly be.

      • SOBEIT - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM

        @randygnyc – without the Yankees and Red Sox in the market for a 1B, it was impossible for Pujols to get above A-Rod money. It was a perfect storm for A-Rod. But $200M in this market with these sets of teams is pretty impressive on its own. But who would have forecasted the Marlins acting like they are this year? Otherwise, he would not even reach anywhere near $200M with the rest of the teams who need a 1B.

  5. marshmallowsnake - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM

    I love seeing big free agents move to different cities. Change is good, just not for my team.

  6. thefalcon123 - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    In other news, Alan Craig will miss the first month of the season with knee surgery. Throw in some rectal probing and root canals, and this is the best day ever!

    • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 6:06 PM

      My thoughts exactly Falcon. Unbelievable.

  7. vanmorrissey - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    Love it, love it, love it. Challenge the Phils, Braves in the East. With Johnson, Reyes, Sanchez, Ramirez, Stanton, et al, they have a really good team shaping up for a run if health holds out. This should be fun.

    • SOBEIT - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:31 PM

      Lack of pitching will not get you very far.

  8. thejotapee - Dec 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM

    I told y’all my fish were for real this offseason! In Beinfest I trust.

    • Old Gator - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:43 PM

      Given your three options, I would say you chose well.

  9. hansob - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM

    The NL East is turning into a stacked division.

  10. blueintown - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:01 PM

    Who is David Villavicencio?

  11. fearlessleader - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:01 PM

    It out-LeBrons LeBron. If this is true, I look forward to reading an angry open letter from Bill DeWitt in Comic Sans font, guaranteeing Cardinal Nation that their team will win another World Series before the Fish do.

    Albert, don’t do it. You have the chance to be the last great franchise player in the game. Don’t squander that for a rainbow uniform, an apathetic fan-base, and a few more bucks that you’ll have trouble figuring out how to spend.

  12. sportsfan2011 - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:04 PM

    Wow I knew this was coming just a matter of when. Pujols is gonna shine on that young team. He wasn’t staying without Larussa.

  13. Francisco (FC) - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM

    The Marlins think they have Pujols in the bag

    A Rainbow colored bag right?

  14. randygnyc - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM

    Can’t say I’m not SHOCKED that this has even gotten this far. Truth is, Albert must not want to be in St Louis, for some reason, IMO. The Marlins deal won’t be for that much more than what the Cards will ultimately offer. Even if it’s an extra year and 20 million more from Florida, I gotta believe there’s some unknown reason that albert’s willing to extricate himself from St Louis legendary status. As it is, these negotiations, I’m sure, haven’t endeared himself with the Missouri faithful.

    • SOBEIT - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:33 PM

      LaRussa retiring and $$$$$…those are pretty good reasons.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 6, 2011 at 6:08 PM

        Really Sobeit? How about World Series titles, routine trips to the Playoffs and a fan base that picks up YOUR tab when you are taking the family out to dinner?

  15. mojosmagic - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:09 PM

    If the deal doesn’t have a no trade clause then Pujos shouldn’t sign it. The Marlins have a long history of signing mega deals, trying to win it all quickly, then dumping those contracts via trades . Beware Albert.

    • jwbiii - Dec 6, 2011 at 5:34 PM

      So how did the key players on the 2003 team do after they were dumped?

      Ivan Rodriguez: Pennant in 2006
      Derek Lee: Playoffs in 2007, 2008, 2010
      Luis Castillo: Playoffs in 2006
      Alex Gonzalez: Playoffs in 2009, 2010
      Mike Lowell: World Series in 2007, playoffs in 2008, 2009
      Juan Pierre: Playoffs in 2008, 2009
      Juan Encarnacion: World Series in 2006
      Miguel Cabrera: Playoffs in 2011
      Carl Pavano: Playoffs in 2009, 2010 (Not counting the Yankees teams when he didn’t play)
      Brad Penny: Playoffs in 2006, 2011
      Josh Beckett: World Series in 2007, playoffs in 2008, 2009
      Braden Looper: Playoffs in 2006

      If the Marlins are loading up for a one time run and then a fire sale, having a no-trade clause might be a bad thing.

  16. cintiphil - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:14 PM


    And you were so sure the Cards had him all wrapped up just a week or two ago. Why are you so sure about this?

  17. chemfootball - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:22 PM

    As a Marlins fan, I am elated to see the team’s willingness to spend money. Pujols would make the team much better for years to come, but not for ten years. I am actually hoping that the Cardinals top the Marlins’ offer and continue to do so until they sign Pujols. I liked the Heath Bell signing, my reaction to the Reyes signing was mixed, but giving Pujols a ten year contract is absurd. I would much rather they give Prince Fielder an eight year contract. Furthermore, they should be focusing on obtaining a left handed pitcher such as Mark Buehrle, CJ Wilson or better yet trading for Gio Gonzalez.

  18. rambodiaz - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:22 PM

    hehheh… “Pujols in the Bag”

    • Old Gator - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:44 PM

      Wrapped in banana leaves is more like it. This here is Macondo.

  19. mojosmagic - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:28 PM

    It’s about putting Latino @sses in colorful seats .

  20. bluesfan58 - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:28 PM

    The amount of money being discussed ($200 MILLION), for whatever period of time, is simply unfathomable to about 99.99% of America. Baseball players ARE the .01%!!! Here in St. Louis, we love Albert, but if he turns his back on the chance to have a legacy like Stan Musial (read George Vecsey’s recent book about him) for a few dollars more, he will become the ultimate LeBron. And just moments ago, there was an article published on the ProBasketball Talk page here about how LeBron hated being seen as the “villian” last year. When beloved players get traded away from St. Louis, or most towns, they are cheered ritualistically when they return (Edmonds, Ankiel, Eckstein of recent memory), but when they turn their backs on their fans and their “home” for money — a few bucks more, which they really don’t need anyhow — they hear nothing but BOO… I guess they can wad a $100 bill into an ear plug before their plate appearances. Come on Albert…do the right thing (and Cardinal management, you have an obligation to make your best pitch too).

    • blueintown - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM

      Grow up.

    • okwhitefalcon - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:53 PM

      I’ll be bitter for an extended time – very bitter.

      I’ve never trusted Mozeliak and Dewitt without the spector of TLR’s presence and influence over the organization.

    • kpow55 - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:21 PM

      How about you “occupy” a job sponge

  21. Panda Claus - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:36 PM

    The Marlins figured they had Pujols the day the introduced their new unis. Notice how they all had number 5’s on them?

  22. dwrek5 - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM

    Can we have Hanley then?
    – Cardinals

  23. spudchukar - Dec 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM

    Regardless how this turns out, one thing is for sure; come late Febuary, Jupiter Florida, should be the place to hang. The Cards and Marlins share Spring Training facilities there.

  24. kpow55 - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:19 PM

    If the Cardinals refuse to tie up all that money in a 47 year 1st baseman, why not go after Fielder at a slightly discounted rate?

    Pujols is obviously/currently the better player but the production will equal out in the near future.

    Pujols w/ age, Fielder w/ weight. Either way, you’re looking at an overpaid busted 1B by 2016.

    Save yourself 20 mil in the process.

    • spudchukar - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM

      I know Albert Pujols, and Prince Fielder is no Albert Pujols.

    • randygnyc - Dec 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM

      Fielder isn’t in Albert’s universe. Prince has taken a few good swings in the big leagues, nothing more. You refer to fielder’s weight. What you fail to mention is that he’s playing despite being morbidly obese. He can’t be expected to remain healthy and playing, even if he loses 50 pounds. In the short term, he is a textbook case for high risk diabetes, heart disease and degenerative bone/joint damage. I’d venture to bet the farm that fielder can’t fulfil the next contract he signs.

  25. ta192 - Dec 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM

    So I guess this means that after the Colts draft Luck, Payton Manning’s on his way to the Dolphins…

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