Comments on: Let’s not go overboard for Jonathan Niese now

By: purnellmeagrejr

purnellmeagrejr — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:13:25 +0000

I think this guy is a lot better than Matt does. I don’t have statistics in front of me but he has one of the prime attributres of a good pitcher – on some days he can shut a team down (as opposed to the Millwooods of the world.)

By: dirtdog7

dirtdog7 — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:13:01 +0000

Now I’ll admit that I don’t know all that much about the advanced metrics, but I see that Niese had an xFIP of 3.28 but got rocked for an ERA of 4.40. I didn’t realize that the mets defense was that bad last year, but I just saw that Angel Pagan had a -14.3 UZR, Jose Reyes had a -3.1 UZR, and Gold-Glove winner David Wright had a -10.5 UZR last year! And that’s only a sampling of the atrocious defense they played last year.

By: dondada10

dondada10 — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 02:27:38 +0000

I know it’s comparing a lefty to a righty, but Niese’s value should be comparable to Shaun Marcum after his 2010 season. Marcum had just finished his fourth full season and had registered a FIP of 4.30 and a 7.3 k/9. Niese is 5 years younger and after 2 full seasons has a FIP of 3.77 to go along with a 7.65 k/9.

By: Matthew Pouliot

Matthew Pouliot — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:54:44 +0000

There’s definitely some truth to that. But, while I’m sure there are a few exceptions out there, most of your good major league pitchers overperformed on BABIP in the minors.

By: lyon810

lyon810 — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:52:07 +0000

Why not go overboard with this? We are with just about everything else.

By: sometimesphylan

sometimesphylan — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:42:47 +0000

Minor league BABIP figures are kind of a ridiculous thing to resort to, considering the amazing defensive prowess of low minors infielders.

By: sometimesphylan

sometimesphylan — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:42:38 +0000

Minor league BABIP figures are kind of a ridiculous thing to resort too, considering the amazing defensive prowess of low minors infielders.

By: beerjunkie

beerjunkie — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:41:18 +0000

Thanks. Insightful-seriously. Not being sarcastic. Was unaware of that. Intriguing information.