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UPDATE: No mystery: It’s just the Marlins and Cardinals for Albert Pujols

Dec 7, 2011, 12:48 AM EDT

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12:57 AM: Jon Heyman chimes in, tweeting that “a good number of executives still seem to think Marlins will win Pujols derby.” The Palm Beach Post’s Joe Capozzi was told that the Marlins are “very confident” they will land the three-time MVP.

12:48 AM: ESPN’s Jim Bowden and the Palm Beach Post’s Joe Capozzi are among those reporting that it’s strictly down to the Marlins and Cardinals. Capozzi reports that the Marlins have not set a deadline for Pujols to accept their offer, but that Pujols may make a decision before sunrise anyway.

11:47 PM: Our own Drew Silva brings word that Bob Nightengale of USA Today was just a guest on KMOX in St. Louis and said that the Angels are NOT the mystery team for Pujols. Neither are the Rangers or the Giants, by the way.

We may also have to eliminate the Cubs from the equation, as Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe hears that they are “definitely not in.”

11:43 PM: Jerry Crasnick of talked to two Angels’ executives who “seemed shocked” that they were being mentioned as the mystery team for Pujols. Meanwhile, Scott Miller of is “highly skeptical” that the Angels are the third team in the mix.

And finally, courtesy of Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune, here’s a picture of some Marlins’ writers staking out Jeffrey Loria at a shoeshine stand. It’s that kind of night.

10:58 PM: Sorry to spoil the party, everyone, but these talks may drag on into tomorrow. Joe Frisaro of hears that while the Marlins would like a resolution, it’s unlikely to happen tonight.

By the way, we have a new horse in the race. Ken Rosenthal of reports the Angels are pursuing Pujols and are having “ongoing conversations.”

10:14 PM: Joel Sherman of the New York Post was told by a “person involved” in talks that the Cubs are “definitely in” on Albert Pujols. It’s not clear whether they have improved their offer (or are the “mystery team” mentioned by Bob Nightengale earlier) but Sherman was told that they at least want to “make life miserable” by bidding against their division-rivals.

9:22 PM: The Marlins just emerged from their meeting with Pujols’ agent Dan Lozano. According to Ken Rosenthal of, Marlins president David Samson said there’s “nothing to report.”

9:11 PM: Strap in, everyone. We could be nearing the end-game. Jayson Stark of hears that the Marlins expect a resolution on their bid for Pujols — one way or the other — by the end of the night.

8:47 PM: C’mon, you knew a mystery team would get involved sooner or later. According to Bob Nightengale of USA Today, Albert Pujols has received three 10-year contract proposals exceeding $200 million. We already know the Cardinals and Marlins are in the mix, but it appears a third unidentified team has joined the bidding.

Nightengale hears that the Cubs have made an offer, but it’s for less than 10 years. Let your imagination run wild.

8:33 PM: Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post was told by a source that the Marlins and Albert Pujols’ agent, Dan Lozano, have been together in a meeting for the past half-hour.

7:48 PM: Ken Rosenthal of was told by sources that the Marlins met with Dan Halem of the commissioner’s office earlier this evening to discuss matters relating to a possible contract for Albert Pujols.

This is potentially very significant, as Andy Martino of the New York Daily News notes that he is Rob Manfred’s No. 2 in charge of approving contracts. No word on the exact nature of the meeting, but Miami’s proposed contract could potentially include deferred money.

7:14 PM ET: We could be approaching a resolution to the story that has taken the Winter Meetings by storm.

Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak confirmed to B.J. Rains of FOX Sports Midwest that they made a new offer to Albert Pujols’ agent Dan Lozano earlier today.

No word on the exact terms, but the Cardinals’ offer from earlier this year was reported to be somewhere in the range of $198-210 million over nine years. The Cardinals didn’t intend to budge from that, but their hand was forced after the Marlins boosted their offer to 10 years late last night.

According to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News, the standing offer from the Marlins is believed to be worth $220 million over 10 years. St. Louis has been asked to match and Miami is said to be “pushing” for a resolution tonight. We’ll continue to track the latest here throughout the evening.

  1. hammyofdoom - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:31 PM

    I just want to know what happens so my curiosity will finally die on this. This is the type of crap that will nag at me until I find out what happens

  2. hittfamily - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:05 PM

    Are the Angels aware that the league is adding another wildcard, not another DH. Morales, Trumbo, Wells, Hunter, Abreu, Borjos, Trout…….Pujols? 8 players for 5 slots?, and 4 of them make over 15 mil per year? 2 of them are premiere young kids. I do not believe this rumor

    • randygnyc - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:30 PM

      And all the names you mention are easily expendable. Perhaps some of the young studs in exchange for pitching. The team that signs AP will be most years/most money. If he’s considering cubs and angels, it’s no longer about winning.

      • hittfamily - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:38 AM

        None of them are tradeable for any talent with the exception of Borjous, their only centerfielder. There was only 1 gm dumb enough to take Wells’ contract last year, and no one is dumb enough to take it this year. Hunter has a no trade clause, Abreu has no value, Trout is definately not being traded, and Morales has missed 2 straight years and is on his last year of team control. Trumbo would get a #4 pitcher max (Niemann, Davis). Pujols to the Angels isn’t happening!

  3. spudchukar - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:08 PM

    Lozano may be a sleeze, OK, he is a sleeve, but he has played this well, and the Cards management deserves it. Still betting he wears the Birds on the Bat for his entire career, but the image of DeWitt and Moseliak squirming is satisfying. Cheap Bastards.

    • paperlions - Dec 7, 2011 at 6:44 AM

      Moseliak? What? You think he should chip in his own cash? It isn’t like he wouldn’t have increased the AAV if ownership allowed him to do so.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM

        Paper: In a word…YES. Hell…I am willing to pitch in my own monies and I probaly make 1/10 the salary of Mo!

  4. umrguy42 - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:33 PM

    Jerry Crasnick is reporting that his Angels sources are surprised at being named the “mystery team”:!/jcrasnick/status/144270234130452480

  5. okwhitefalcon - Dec 6, 2011 at 11:36 PM

    This piece of insight from the one and only John Heyman, nice to see this douche knows the Angels are in a different league..!/Jon_Heyman

    Jon_HeymanJon Heyman
    “folks believe the #angels are indeed the #mystery team. Good organization but would require change of leagues for pujols.”

  6. Moose Michaels - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:14 AM

    I’m slightly torn on this as well. Pujols is great for the Redbirds but he is already starting his decline and 10 years is a loooooooong time when the player you’re signing is 32 on Opening Day. What to do, what to do?

    • hittfamily - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:40 AM

      “when the player you’re signing is 32 ”


      • paperlions - Dec 7, 2011 at 6:49 AM

        Yeah, the US doesn’t even check that shit for people becoming citizens, especially since 9/11, I mean, they hardly require any documentation at all….just apply for citizenship, pay the fee, and you’re an American within the hour no questions asked.

        Same for work visas, no ballplayers started using their correct age at all in response to crack downs on documentation several years ago, none.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM

        Exactly Hittfamily: His Mother and Father had the forsight to forge his Brith Certificate at age 11 just prior to moving to the States. They just knew he was going to be an MLB player since the day he was born. So naturally…they started this process over 20 years ago because they also knew he would need this Birth Certificate to start school in KANSAS CITY while living with his Grandmother through middle school and high school. His Parents also knew there were no dangers whatsoever of being deported back to the DR should the authorities find out. As a result, there were no potential repercussions for doing so. But again…what I find most impressive is there ability to see the future for him way back at the young age of 11.

  7. ndrocks2 - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:21 AM

    Hoping its not the Cubs unless it for six years max, Theo probably driving the bidding up for Cards. Pujois would be crazy to sign with Florida they seem a little fishy :) with their new found direction. Anyone but the Cards that gives him 10 years will regret it, at least Cards have his past performance to justify stupid money when he is playing out the last three or four years.

  8. isaiahforreal - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:36 AM

    I am so against giving a 10 year contract to a 30+ player I wonder if my Yanks do

  9. cur68 - Dec 7, 2011 at 1:57 AM

    I don’t know what’s gonna happen with Phat Al but I can hazard a guess what Heyman will do: around 2:30 AM he’ll make a wild ass guess, attribute it to a “source” and turn the f*ck in to bed. He’s gotta 50/50 chance of being correct and possibly scooping everyone. If he’s wrong, meh. Source was unreliable but he got his beauty sleep and generated a crap ton of traffic with his name all over it.

    • badmamainphilliesjamas - Dec 7, 2011 at 6:42 AM

      At least Heyman’s getting paid for this. Why am I checking the news at ungodly hours and passing up my beauty sleep?

      • cur68 - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:50 AM

        Yes but you probably don’t need much sleep whereas Heyman just shouldn’t get out of bed.

  10. sf49erguy - Dec 8, 2011 at 12:49 PM

    “No Mystery” ??? seems like you guys need to dig a little more

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