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The Marlins have made their final offer to Pujols

Dec 7, 2011, 10:37 AM EDT

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Closing time: Ken Rosenthal tweets that the Marlins have made their final offer to Albert Pujols.  There is a the prospect of an additional meeting, but if no other offer comes out of it, you’d have to think that Pujols and his agent will accept the Cards’ substantially similar offer to stay in town.

Three years at the Winter Meetings and no single player or story has dominated like this one has.  If Pujols signs today we’re gonna all have to find something to do.

  1. umrguy42 - Dec 7, 2011 at 10:43 AM

    …Is this a new offer, or where it stood last night?

  2. mojosmagic - Dec 7, 2011 at 10:51 AM

    The Marlins aren’t getting Pujos but they got a years worth of publicity. Not bad for a team that finished 31 games behind the Phil’s and over paid an often injured Jose Reyes.

  3. salvomania - Dec 7, 2011 at 10:51 AM

    Was there a bloody fish head involved?

  4. stevedubs11 - Dec 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM

    marlins need to go after c.j. Wilson. starting pitching is more important for them especially since the rangers met with Wilson’s manager who was “pleasantly surprised” with his visit. marlins have to battle for everything.

  5. cintiphil - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:01 AM

    It doesn’t appear that the owners are really interested in signing players to win, rather making news and getting publicity. Well, Albert is going to stay a redbird.

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:19 AM

      If you’re right, then the Marlins risked $200 million dollars, just to get mentioned on Hardballtalk.com for a few days. You still think you’re right?

      • cintiphil - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:23 AM

        It was not a serious offer. They left plenty room for the Cardinals to move back in front of them. Which is what is going to happen. Watch and learn. If they were serious, they would have offered him something that they know the Cardinals will not top!

      • Alex K - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM

        I’m really glad you’re not the GM of my favorite team.

    • Alex K - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:23 AM

      How so? They made a huge offer and it was matched. Should they just throw away any lick of reason and keep beating any offer no matter what?

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:39 AM

      So $200 million isn’t serious? Wow. You think if Pujols accepts, the Marlins are going to withdraw it? Text him a “jk lol” . Maybe a :) or a :P.

  6. trevorb06 - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:01 AM

    What they should do is take all that money they’re throwing at Pujols and instead get CJ Wilson AND Mark Buehrle. They wouldn’t even have to do any 10 year contracts. That would make the Marlins a scarier team and make the NL West an interesting division next year. I think all teams in the NL East have a legit shot next year, including the Nats. (see Diamondbacks, AZ)

    • cur68 - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:03 PM

      You mean do something sensible? LOL Trev.

    • professor59 - Dec 7, 2011 at 5:23 PM

      Buehrle overperformed at an advanced age. I wouldn’t reward a career year with huge bucks.

      OK, 4 years for 58 million seems a tad high (by like 10 million) but hey, if that’s the market…

  7. vincentbojackson - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:07 AM

    Cards are screwed either way. Either they lose Pujols, or they over-pay him hampering their ability to sign additional players around him for years to come.

    • salvomania - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:35 AM

      They’re not screwed if they lose Pujols. They have a .900-OPS hitter to take over at 1st and a .900-OPS hitter (who may not play until may after knee surgery) to take over in right.

      Combined, these two will make about $12.5 million in 2012, with no long-term commitments.

  8. 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:18 AM

    Take the St. Louis offer, Albert. 10 years is too long. It would have been fun for a while, but ultimately we’re better off without you. And ultimately the Cardinals will be worse off. Your signing with St. Louis is a win for everone who likes you, everyone who likes the Marlins, and everyone who hates the Cardinals.

    • Old Gator - Dec 7, 2011 at 3:02 PM

      Agreed. I was more worried that he would accept the Feesh’s bid than that he wouldn’t. Fun for a while, then – well, when I was younger and a Mutts fan, I saw Willie Mays’ last year with the Mutts. His biggest couple of hits that season were bloop singles. It wasn’t pretty, and he effectively recognized the fact and took a seat on the bench for most of the last month or so of the ’73 season to give the kids a shot at bringing a pennant home. I doubt if Feesh fans would ever have had the kind of affection for a burned-out Albert Pujols that New Yorkers had for returning favorite son Willie. It would be an unpleasant spectacle. Just as well.

      • ta192 - Dec 7, 2011 at 3:52 PM

        True, but,

        1) Don’t give a rat’s ass about Miami’s long term success,

        2) Kinda’ thought it would be neat to see Albert and Stanton abuse pitchers for the next couple of years (on TV).

        3) By the time Albert starts to slide and Mike is getting too expensive to keep, I’ll be cashing in my Neptune Society benefits.

        As such, I was sort of pulling for Pujols to come to the Havana suburbs…

  9. burnsy - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:19 AM

    How are they screwed if they lose him and have $22 million more to spend?

    • paperlions - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:31 AM

      Because there isn’t anything worth spending it on….if they don’t overpay Pujols, why would they overpay for anyone else…and pretty much every top FA winds up being horribly overpaid.

      • burnsy - Dec 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM

        After this season? No one else to spend it on? If they’re “screwed” for one season by having to play with the supporting cast that won the World Series and Adam Wainright, that’s a screwing I could live with.

      • paperlions - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:24 PM

        You are also assuming that DeWitt will spend it at all. They turn a hefty profit every year and plan on continuing that tradition….if they don’t sign Pujols, they have no intention of going after Fielder. Again, if they aren’t going to overpay for an iconic player that should have 5 or more good/great years left….why would they overpay for a lesser player? They won’t.

        They won’t “be screwed”, but they will be a lesser offensive club.

  10. telergy - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:08 PM

    Prince Fielder?

  11. cur68 - Dec 7, 2011 at 12:09 PM

    No matter what, things work out ok for the Cards. If they get Phat Al, then great; they got Pujols and there will be much rejoicing. If they don’t, then they save a fortune that they can splash around on other free agents and another team gets a good crippling in the budget and long term performance department.

    Eliminate the emotion form this and they should just shake Al’s hand and say “have a nice career in Macondo, Al”, then go get Buehrle and Fielder and pocket the change.

  12. sasman50 - Dec 7, 2011 at 5:34 PM

    What have the marlins been doing all these years – puttiing all their money in the piggy bank, only to break into it big time this year….must be money coming in from the drug cartels there, ’cause during the season, you didn’t just get a seat – you could get a section to sit in so it sure wasn’t from gate receipts or TV money. Unbelievable how few were in the stands for many of the games.

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