Comments on: UPDATE: Blue Jays, Diamondbacks pursue Gio Gonzalez http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Tue, 21 May 2013 15:48:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: cur68 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-232093 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:34:03 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-232093 A nice bundle of Teahen, Mathis & Brett Cecil, with a “please take Brian Tallet, too” tacked on to the end. Think they’d bite?

]]> By: APBA Guy http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-232090 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:29:36 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-232090 Cur-who would you (as GM of the Jays) give up for Gio?

]]> By: bozosforall http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-232083 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:16:09 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-232083 Not for what those idiots are asking though. If they will take Nunez and Garcia, then we’ll talk. LOL

]]> By: clydeserra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-232054 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 23:45:16 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-232054 to be a little more clear, as a PTBNL with ROwand for Thome, then back to the whitesox with gavin floyd for freddie garcia

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gonzagi01.shtml#trans

]]> By: cur68 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-232041 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 23:24:22 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-232041 C’mon Blue Jays! Add this guy to that rotation and you have: Ricky Ramirez, Brandon Morrow, Gio Gonzalez, Wilson Alvarez and Dustin McGowan with Brett Cecil to the pen along with Young Drabek (both of whom can pitch long relief or fill rotation spots). McGowan, Alverez and Gonzalez could either of them be the # 3 guy based on last year’s work. What a great rotation to throw out there.

C’mon Anthopolous, lets see some of that voodoo thing you do…

]]> By: clydeserra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-232039 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 23:19:48 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-232039 thome

]]> By: skane2005 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231769 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 19:39:05 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231769 Phils traded him (as a prospect) I believe in the Joe Blanton trade.

]]> By: bozosforall http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231733 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 19:15:47 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231733 Nothing that Larry Rothschild can’t fix.

]]> By: djpostl http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231696 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:34:14 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231696 Yup, people can bash prospect deals any way they want, but in the end you need a lot of them to have just a handful pay off so any time a non-competitive team can flip a guy and get 4-6 high end ones in return they have got to pull the trigger.

]]> By: djpostl http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231690 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:31:40 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231690 Biggest concern is the fact he walks more guys than AJ Burnett (literally does walk more, not just hyperbole)

]]> By: Francisco (FC) http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231640 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:49:03 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231640 Apoplexy!

]]> By: APBA Guy http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231635 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:38:27 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231635 The A’s are absolutely looking for a Dan Haren deal here. They view his last two seasons (age 24 and 25) as indicative, averaging 201 innings, 3.17 ERA, and WHIP of 1.315. I don’t have the park-adjusted stats handy, but the overall combination of age, durability, and performance is high-value.

The Haren trade of “Dan Haren and Connor Robertson to the Arizona Diamondbacks in exchange for left-handed pitchers Brett Anderson, Dana Eveland and Greg Smith, infielder Chris Carter and outfielders Aaron Cunningham and Carlos Gonzalez.” (A’s press release) what jumps out is Anderson and Car-Go. Carter is still with the club, Cunningham is in SD, and Eveland and Smith went to COL with Car-Go for Matt Holliday, who the A’s turned for (eventually) Michael Taylor.

Ultimately did the A’s “win” that deal? A lot depends on how well Anderson comes back from TJ. It looks like they came up way short on the Holliday for Car-Go end of the stick.

But the point in getting prospects is that you can’t be sure who will make it in the majors, so you get the highest number of high-upside guys you can, leavened with some roster fillers.

It what the A’s want to do, anyway. We’ll see if anyone wants to dance with them for Gio. That BB/9 that lembeck cited above is very un-Haren like. And that will be an issue.

]]> By: Jonny 5 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231624 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:30:36 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231624

Source: Phillies – A's discussed a Domonic Brown -for- Gio Gonzalez package deal—
JIM BOWDEN (@JimBowdenESPNxm) December 07, 2011

]]> By: lembeck4 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231393 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 14:26:17 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231393 A little Devil’s advocate on Gonzalez…..career 1.410 WHIP, 4.4 BB/9 (led the AL in BB in 2011). Kid has a live arm, but it doesn’t always throw strikes.

]]> By: Jonny 5 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231354 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:44:32 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231354 Phillies are in on him too.

]]> By: skeleteeth http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231340 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:06:34 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231340 I came into this thread ready to gripe about the hype for this guy and his home/away splits but they really weren’t all that bad. That has to be a concern though with him not getting most of his starts at The Coliseum. Of course, not having the Athletics offense to rely on will make a difference.

Hype away, I guess?

]]> By: joshftw http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231328 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:46:28 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231328 Hands off! He belongs to the Yankees!

]]> By: Ben http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/tigers-make-a-run-at-oaklands-gio-gonzalez/comment-page-1/#comment-231327 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:17:16 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=101510#comment-231327 Given how thin the Tigers’ system is a trade like that could set them back years when they lose this cohort of players. And by cohort I mean Miguel Cabrera and Justin Verlander.

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