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Cardinals “reluctant” to give five-year deal to Jimmy Rollins, could pursue Carlos Beltran

Dec 9, 2011, 2:14 PM EDT

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Jimmy Rollins has been linked to the Cardinals following Albert Pujols‘ departure, but Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post Dispatch reports that they “would be reluctant to enter the bidding for Rollins” unless he backs off demands for a five-year deal.

Philadelphia is also said to be very much against the idea of giving Rollins a five-year commitment at age 33, so the shortstop changing his stance may be inevitable.

Allen Craig is expected to replace Pujols in St. Louis’ lineup, but he’ll likely miss at least the first month or two of the season following knee surgery and Goold writes that the Cardinals “have explored what the market is for outfielder Carlos Beltran.”

Beltran’s name has been connected to surprisingly few suitors this offseason, so if the price was right on a one- or two-year deal he’d be an excellent pickup for the Cardinals.

  1. mojosmagic - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:26 PM

    I am sure the Cards really want to deal with Rollins agent who happens to be the same agent as guy named Pujos.

    • brucewaynewins - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:28 PM

      Joey Votto also shares that agent. Shall be interesting in 4 years to see how that turns out.

      • fearlessleader - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:44 PM

        Lozano also represents Carlos Beltran. D’oh!

    • paperlions - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:57 PM

      It is business, not personal. No one jerked anyone around, they negotiated and the player took the best deal…it happens. Next time around, you repeat the process and hope for a different result….but under no circumstance can you take any of it personally or let bad outcomes affect your ability to deal with an agent that represents players you would like to sign.

      If you can’t have a heated argument with someone and be just as good of friends afterwards, then you shouldn’t be an agent or a person that negotiates contracts.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:28 PM

        Paper: You are absolutely correct…unless that agent is named Scott Boras. If so…all bets are off.

      • stex52 - Dec 9, 2011 at 4:51 PM

        What he said about Boras. Ditto.

  2. brewcrewfan54 - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:32 PM

    Anyone should be reluctant to give Jimmy Rollins a 5 year deal.

  3. andyreidisfat - Dec 9, 2011 at 2:55 PM

    I hope Rollins does sign in st Louis. I love the guy and he was great but not anymore. IMO he is a superstar fielder and a 8 hole hitter. He’s just not worth the money. I would rather see the phillies sign furcal who is a good fielder and most likely will give near the same production as jimmy offensively. That would allow the phills to spend that money on someone who can consistently get on base like cuddyer or even Beltran

  4. cintiphil - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:05 PM

    I think the deal rests on if they can resign Furcal at a lower price. I would rather have Furcal, as Rollins seems to have slowed down a lot since last season injuries, and has had a slow come back. Furcal I think has made a great comeback, and I don’t think he is looking for 5 years. But don’t the Phills want him back? I don’t know who they could have in mind better than Rollins.

    • paperlions - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:28 PM

      At this point, I would also prefer Furcal….if (yeah, a big if) he can stay healthy, he should provide similar production offensively and defensively to that of Rollins…but at a cheaper price and shorter commitment….really, the Cardinals have no excuse for not getting something done with Furcal….unless you foolishly believe that suddenly no player wants to play for StL because Pujols left.

  5. Jonny 5 - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:15 PM

    5 years is a looong time. But I still lome me some J-Roll.

    • cintiphil - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:34 PM

      Yes, that was a great one, but even Phillips has flashed some great leather for the Reds. The plays were good and perhaps he can still make them. But his offense had suffered a little last year. Can he get that back too?

      • Jonny 5 - Dec 9, 2011 at 4:28 PM

        All we can do as fans is hope.

  6. thefalcon123 - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:23 PM

    Beltran’s postseason career Vs the Cardinals
    2 Series (04 and 06 NLCS)

    Games: 14
    AB: 51
    Runs: 20
    Hits: 18
    2B: 2
    HR: 7
    RBI: 9
    BA: .353
    OBP: .476
    SLG: .804
    SB: 5

    …I’d by happy with him on the Cardinals, if only to prevent them from ever having to face him in the postseason again.

    • fearlessleader - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:27 PM

      But we’ll always have that Adam Wainwright curveball that froze him at the plate to end the ’06 NLCS……ahhh, good times, good times.

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:29 PM

        Buckled knees….thanks for the reminder Fearless.

    • cintiphil - Dec 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM

      I hope you get him. I don’t think he is worth the money he will bring in this crazy market, and he has never played as well as he did back in the playoffs. The Reds have had little trouble with him at the bat.

      • 78mu - Dec 9, 2011 at 8:06 PM

        Beltran had a 300/385/525 line last year with OPS+ of 152 last year in 142 games. If the Reds had little trouble with him some other teams are having a lot of trouble pitching to him.

  7. okwhitefalcon - Dec 9, 2011 at 10:21 PM

    I am “reluctant” to trust Bill Dewitt and John Mozeliak in any regard at his point.

    Lose HOF manager and undeniable leader of the franchise. Check.

    Hire new manager with zero experience on any level. Check.

    Be reactiive and not proactive and not lock up the greatest player of the generation. Check.

    Remove all feeling of elation from the 11th World Series title. Check.

    • cintiphil - Dec 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM


      Your logic is not as sharp as your hatred. Your team still has a lot of stars and potential to win it again, at least in the central division. This just levels the playing field (so to speak) for the rest of the division.

  8. staffordsyear - Dec 10, 2011 at 6:18 AM

    You clearly have no idea how the cardinals operate,be gone.

    • okwhitefalcon - Dec 10, 2011 at 12:08 PM

      Does anyone know how the Cardinals will operate now that they’ve lost their the entirety of their on field leadership and anchor to their lineup?

      Mozeliak and Dewitt had plenty of time – 2 years to strike a mutually beneficial agreement with Albert and failed to do so. They sat on the hands and “hoped” free agency wouldn’t spiral in a direction they felt they couldn’t go.

      Well, that didn’t work now did it?

      I understand the Cards will move on, they’re the St Louis Cardins for cryin’ out loud – they will survive.

      That said, I do not trust the current leadership to move the franchise in a positive direction going forward.

      • cintiphil - Dec 10, 2011 at 2:13 PM

        All of you guys stop the crying. Don’t tell me everything hung on Albert. You have other leaders for gods sake.l How about Molina, Carpenter Wainwright, and Berkman? The young 3rd baseman showed them how to win a W-S, not Albert. They all have it in them to carry the team. You are better off than most of us out here. You just want a sure thing and block out all others. Why don’t you just take Verlander and all the other guys you want form other teams, so you can win every year? I am the one who told you DeWitt is cheap, remember? We know him well here. But, he will not throw away assets like the cards to save a few dollars. You are talking about 1/4 Billion over 10 years. Anyone who paid that is stupid, and that is what I think the Angels are. You can be sure that the 150 Mil T-V deal they just got was already agreed to before the signed Albert. That is why they went after him. They had more money than even DeWitt. I am almost willing to bet now, that the Rangers will repeat in the AL, IF they go after and sign Prince! Look at that potential line up. How do you pitch around all of that power? Stop complaining and lets see what happens next season.

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