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	<title>Comments on: Ryan Braun on PED charge: &#8220;I&#8217;m completely innocent&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Werewolves? Jayson Werth is definitely hiding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Werewolves? Jayson Werth is definitely hiding.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 03:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After all the technical BS and people on both sides arguing one side or the other, this made me laugh out loud.  Thanks aces...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all the technical BS and people on both sides arguing one side or the other, this made me laugh out loud.  Thanks aces&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: phillyphreak</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*actually]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*actually</p>
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		<title>By: phillyphreak</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/ryan-braun-on-ped-charge-im-completely-innocent/comment-page-1/#comment-234639</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are published articles that actual say this can be done.  It&#039;s not my field but just knowing how far chemistry and technology has advanced makes me feel uneasy when someone claims something can&#039;t be determined.  

http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2006/08/01/testosterone_carbon_isotopes_and_floyd_landis.php

http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/43/13/1041.full

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac2015849


But who really knows what&#039;s the deal with this Braun thing....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are published articles that actual say this can be done.  It&#8217;s not my field but just knowing how far chemistry and technology has advanced makes me feel uneasy when someone claims something can&#8217;t be determined.  </p>
<p><a href="http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2006/08/01/testosterone_carbon_isotopes_and_floyd_landis.php" rel="nofollow">http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2006/08/01/testosterone_carbon_isotopes_and_floyd_landis.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/43/13/1041.full" rel="nofollow">http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/43/13/1041.full</a></p>
<p><a href="http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac2015849" rel="nofollow">http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac2015849</a></p>
<p>But who really knows what&#8217;s the deal with this Braun thing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: macjacmccoy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IM with you that the 2nd negative test taken weeks later doesnt mean squat bc if he stopped after the 1st positive test it would have already be out of his system but your completely wrong saying oral steroids barely do anything.  I dont know about creams but I know for a fact oral steroids are extremely effective.  Dianabol better known as D-bol is one of the most effect steroids your can get and its ingested orally.  Granted you have to take 5 - 5mg tablets 2x a day  but 1 cycle (roughly 6 weeks) on it and you can easily gain 100 pounds to your bench press and 25 pounds of muscle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IM with you that the 2nd negative test taken weeks later doesnt mean squat bc if he stopped after the 1st positive test it would have already be out of his system but your completely wrong saying oral steroids barely do anything.  I dont know about creams but I know for a fact oral steroids are extremely effective.  Dianabol better known as D-bol is one of the most effect steroids your can get and its ingested orally.  Granted you have to take 5 &#8211; 5mg tablets 2x a day  but 1 cycle (roughly 6 weeks) on it and you can easily gain 100 pounds to your bench press and 25 pounds of muscle.</p>
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		<title>By: baseballisboring</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, but I dont believe that you dont believe that he doesnt believe him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I dont believe that you dont believe that he doesnt believe him.</p>
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		<title>By: brewcrewfan54</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewcrewfan54]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing as MLB isn&#039;t the one who reported the suspension it means they are giving Braun his due process. ESPN has decided to take that due processaway from him in order to make news. That&#039;s pretty typical of ESPN nowadays. I&#039;m not saying Braun is innocent but he along with any other MLB player deserve to have their appeals heared before news breaks. I got new for ya, ESPN&#039;s journalistic integrity has been getting lower and lower for a while now. I wouldn&#039;t defend them if I were you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing as MLB isn&#8217;t the one who reported the suspension it means they are giving Braun his due process. ESPN has decided to take that due processaway from him in order to make news. That&#8217;s pretty typical of ESPN nowadays. I&#8217;m not saying Braun is innocent but he along with any other MLB player deserve to have their appeals heared before news breaks. I got new for ya, ESPN&#8217;s journalistic integrity has been getting lower and lower for a while now. I wouldn&#8217;t defend them if I were you.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Landis was popped for T/E ratio as well!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Landis was popped for T/E ratio as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A distressingly large portion of HBT commenters need to check those batteries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A distressingly large portion of HBT commenters need to check those batteries.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rogue Chemist? Moi? Not a chance. I was great in the lab, but LOUSY on the written work. Bad news for a budding chemist. My problem is that I was a Floyd Landis fan. Then THAT happened. I was sure hoping he was innocent. I looked all this stuff up ages ago (2005 was ages ago? Hmm..so it seems...) and discussed carbon isotope detection quite a bit with my nerdy lil&#039; buddies. Then, for a few years, I frequented a gym where some of the muscle heads used &#039;roids (those guys LOVED to talk about it, too. Bore the sh!t out of you with all their jabber). Got to know more than was probably good for me on the topic. Sorry about the nerd-speak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogue Chemist? Moi? Not a chance. I was great in the lab, but LOUSY on the written work. Bad news for a budding chemist. My problem is that I was a Floyd Landis fan. Then THAT happened. I was sure hoping he was innocent. I looked all this stuff up ages ago (2005 was ages ago? Hmm..so it seems&#8230;) and discussed carbon isotope detection quite a bit with my nerdy lil&#8217; buddies. Then, for a few years, I frequented a gym where some of the muscle heads used &#8216;roids (those guys LOVED to talk about it, too. Bore the sh!t out of you with all their jabber). Got to know more than was probably good for me on the topic. Sorry about the nerd-speak.</p>
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		<title>By: aceshigh11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aceshigh11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fun fact:

That beard he&#039;s sporting in the above picture grew in between the 1st and 6th innings of a night game with the Reds.

He actually started the game clean-shaven.

He&#039;s either on &quot;T&quot;, or he is, in fact, a werewolf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun fact:</p>
<p>That beard he&#8217;s sporting in the above picture grew in between the 1st and 6th innings of a night game with the Reds.</p>
<p>He actually started the game clean-shaven.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s either on &#8220;T&#8221;, or he is, in fact, a werewolf.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Injectable testosterone clears the body in a week to 10 days.

Oral and cream forms clear the body within 24 hours, but provide so little testosterone that they have almost no effect.

So....who cares that a follow up sample was negative?  It would only be positive if he kept using after giving the first sample, which he probably knew he would fail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Injectable testosterone clears the body in a week to 10 days.</p>
<p>Oral and cream forms clear the body within 24 hours, but provide so little testosterone that they have almost no effect.</p>
<p>So&#8230;.who cares that a follow up sample was negative?  It would only be positive if he kept using after giving the first sample, which he probably knew he would fail.</p>
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		<title>By: couldntthinkofaname</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[couldntthinkofaname]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its not even close this is without a doubt the dumbest and most naive thing i have ever read on a sports talk site and i thought morons stuck to PFT and left baseball to people with brains . MOST PRO ATHLETES ARE ON PEDS dont worry about it steroids dont add skill they make an athlete more able to display their skill which is what we pay them for
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It&#039;s always nice to hear from Floyd Landis!  Floyd, I didn&#039;t know you were a self-righteous baseball nerd!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not even close this is without a doubt the dumbest and most naive thing i have ever read on a sports talk site and i thought morons stuck to PFT and left baseball to people with brains . MOST PRO ATHLETES ARE ON PEDS dont worry about it steroids dont add skill they make an athlete more able to display their skill which is what we pay them for<br />
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<p>It&#8217;s always nice to hear from Floyd Landis!  Floyd, I didn&#8217;t know you were a self-righteous baseball nerd!</p>
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		<title>By: jonirocit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonirocit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess if they are all gonna cheat just legalize it and that way the games will be more exciting . If Braun in innocent it would seem this whole testing policy is flawed . Also if there is a confidential policy in place how did this get out before the suspension . I guarantee MLB front office didn&#039;t leak it and now if he was guilty he will come back clean via the 3rd test to avoid the whole MVP doper thing . I just really wish we could all enjoy a season without this crap . I blame the media just as much as players. More balls and strikes and less days of our lives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess if they are all gonna cheat just legalize it and that way the games will be more exciting . If Braun in innocent it would seem this whole testing policy is flawed . Also if there is a confidential policy in place how did this get out before the suspension . I guarantee MLB front office didn&#8217;t leak it and now if he was guilty he will come back clean via the 3rd test to avoid the whole MVP doper thing . I just really wish we could all enjoy a season without this crap . I blame the media just as much as players. More balls and strikes and less days of our lives.</p>
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		<title>By: buffalomafia</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why get suspended if you can get the supplements @ GNC or  Vitamin World? You can get stronger just by doing cardio.

Brewers fans get ready for more losing seasons! Go Yanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why get suspended if you can get the supplements @ GNC or  Vitamin World? You can get stronger just by doing cardio.</p>
<p>Brewers fans get ready for more losing seasons! Go Yanks!</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this this sounds ridiculous, but I say it in all seriousness.  I played with guys who were good, then got awesome post roids, and they fully admitted it in the early 00&#039;s (college).   Camminiti was a crackhead dead 5 years after being the best player in the game.  Barry Bonds and Big Mac hit 70 jacks in pitchers parks with the stuff.

Does Prince Fielder&#039;s stock go up because the best player in MLB took roids and was only a little better than him, facing the same pitchers and hitting in the same parks.  If Braun is the only one cheating, either I oversetimate Barry Bonds, or Ryan Braun is the worst MVP of all time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this this sounds ridiculous, but I say it in all seriousness.  I played with guys who were good, then got awesome post roids, and they fully admitted it in the early 00&#8242;s (college).   Camminiti was a crackhead dead 5 years after being the best player in the game.  Barry Bonds and Big Mac hit 70 jacks in pitchers parks with the stuff.</p>
<p>Does Prince Fielder&#8217;s stock go up because the best player in MLB took roids and was only a little better than him, facing the same pitchers and hitting in the same parks.  If Braun is the only one cheating, either I oversetimate Barry Bonds, or Ryan Braun is the worst MVP of all time.</p>
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		<title>By: ufullpj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ufullpj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple quick thoughts.  First, on SI.com, Will Carroll has a great column explaining the procedure, how the results are measured, etc.  As it has been pointed out already on the comments section, there can be a wide range of natural variance in T/E ratios on a daily basis.

That being said, regardless of the outcome, ESPN has hit another low.  Not only is this is a confidential procedure, but the guy is appealing the results.  However, ESPN released a report condemning the guy before all the facts were heard and conclusions reached.  The fact that neither Braun, nor MLB, nor the Brewers can comment on this, but ESPN can hammer the guy is really sad.  

IF Braun is guilty, then it&#039;s incredibly disappointing, both for him, but also MLB.  If Braun is innocent....well, I&#039;d love to watch the retraction issued by ESPN on ESPN 8, the Ocho.  While I personally believe integrity matters in sport, it also matters in journalism.  ESPN has been walking a fine, fine line in recent years between objective journalism and tabloid journalism / PR for entities in which they have monetary interest (for example, the BCS, among others), and regardless of the outcome of the Braun story, ESPN needs to realize that premature reporting and scooping does not meet the burden of integrity for journalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple quick thoughts.  First, on SI.com, Will Carroll has a great column explaining the procedure, how the results are measured, etc.  As it has been pointed out already on the comments section, there can be a wide range of natural variance in T/E ratios on a daily basis.</p>
<p>That being said, regardless of the outcome, ESPN has hit another low.  Not only is this is a confidential procedure, but the guy is appealing the results.  However, ESPN released a report condemning the guy before all the facts were heard and conclusions reached.  The fact that neither Braun, nor MLB, nor the Brewers can comment on this, but ESPN can hammer the guy is really sad.  </p>
<p>IF Braun is guilty, then it&#8217;s incredibly disappointing, both for him, but also MLB.  If Braun is innocent&#8230;.well, I&#8217;d love to watch the retraction issued by ESPN on ESPN 8, the Ocho.  While I personally believe integrity matters in sport, it also matters in journalism.  ESPN has been walking a fine, fine line in recent years between objective journalism and tabloid journalism / PR for entities in which they have monetary interest (for example, the BCS, among others), and regardless of the outcome of the Braun story, ESPN needs to realize that premature reporting and scooping does not meet the burden of integrity for journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[uyf1950, I use this one because it includes minor leaguers and notes:
 
http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=996&amp;Itemid=85]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uyf1950, I use this one because it includes minor leaguers and notes:</p>
<p><a href="http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=996&#038;Itemid=85" rel="nofollow">http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=996&#038;Itemid=85</a></p>
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		<title>By: mojosmagic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mojosmagic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like a broken record the cheaters all say the same thing. It buys them time until the heat cools and reality sets in. JC Romero, a recent cheater, said it was all a mistake and he was taking over the counter supplements he didn&#039;t know contained steroids.  His appeal was denied, 50 games served, and never any good after that. I am still waiting on Barry Bonds. Ryan Braun STFU!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like a broken record the cheaters all say the same thing. It buys them time until the heat cools and reality sets in. JC Romero, a recent cheater, said it was all a mistake and he was taking over the counter supplements he didn&#8217;t know contained steroids.  His appeal was denied, 50 games served, and never any good after that. I am still waiting on Barry Bonds. Ryan Braun STFU!</p>
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		<title>By: stoutfiles</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/ryan-braun-on-ped-charge-im-completely-innocent/comment-page-2/#comment-234473</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And here come the pretzels...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here come the pretzels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/ryan-braun-on-ped-charge-im-completely-innocent/comment-page-1/#comment-234472</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure if they&#039;ve changed their coverage in the interim, but what really grinded my gears last night was the absolute refusal to mention that he got a second test at his request and passed (9pm-ish coverage, so the story on the website already mentioned it for a few hours). All they mentioned was that he failed, and they never brought up that there might be some mitigating circumstances.

With the Bernie Fine coverage, and Roethlisberger a few years ago, and now this, ESPN has really lost all semblances of journalistic integrity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if they&#8217;ve changed their coverage in the interim, but what really grinded my gears last night was the absolute refusal to mention that he got a second test at his request and passed (9pm-ish coverage, so the story on the website already mentioned it for a few hours). All they mentioned was that he failed, and they never brought up that there might be some mitigating circumstances.</p>
<p>With the Bernie Fine coverage, and Roethlisberger a few years ago, and now this, ESPN has really lost all semblances of journalistic integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just read through the JDA testing procedure again. Every player gets tested during spring training, generally with their annual physical. Every player gets a random unannouced test at some point during the season. Some have opined that these are not quite so unannounced, but that&#039;s beside the point. Then there are an additional 1,200 random tests conducted throughout the season, preseason, postseason, and offseason. Tests conducted during the offseason are only for PEDs; if a player wants to shoot smack or take amphetamine fortified diet pills in December, that&#039;s ok, he just needs to be sure it&#039;s out of his system by spring training.
 
So, brewcrewfan54, Ryan Braun has passed at least two tests per year during his major league career.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read through the JDA testing procedure again. Every player gets tested during spring training, generally with their annual physical. Every player gets a random unannouced test at some point during the season. Some have opined that these are not quite so unannounced, but that&#8217;s beside the point. Then there are an additional 1,200 random tests conducted throughout the season, preseason, postseason, and offseason. Tests conducted during the offseason are only for PEDs; if a player wants to shoot smack or take amphetamine fortified diet pills in December, that&#8217;s ok, he just needs to be sure it&#8217;s out of his system by spring training.</p>
<p>So, brewcrewfan54, Ryan Braun has passed at least two tests per year during his major league career.</p>
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		<title>By: lardin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why?  The facts are pretty clear.   He failed a drug test.  The only way he can avoid a suspension is a successful appeal which has never happened.  What would be irresponsible is to say he failed drug test when he didn&#039;t.  Like it or not failed tests are news.  Journalists investigate and report the news.  The facts are what they are.  Are you asking espm to not do there job?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why?  The facts are pretty clear.   He failed a drug test.  The only way he can avoid a suspension is a successful appeal which has never happened.  What would be irresponsible is to say he failed drug test when he didn&#8217;t.  Like it or not failed tests are news.  Journalists investigate and report the news.  The facts are what they are.  Are you asking espm to not do there job?</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;but determining synthetic or natural testosterone as I understand it is pretty easy&lt;/blockquote&gt;

According to this article*, &lt;i&gt;There is no difference between synthetic testosterone and naturally produced testosterone - they&#039;re one and the same chemical. Same atoms, in the same configuration, forming the exact same molecule, with identical chemcial properties. At least at the atomic level. Once you mix natural and synthetic testosterone, you can&#039;t separate them again, any more than you could separate Evian from Poland Springs bottled water after they&#039;d been mixed. Actually that&#039;s a bad example. It would be more akin to separating two kinds of distilled water from each other. Even that would be easier than testosterone, since one would presume that distilled water sources don&#039;t change rapidly.

&lt;b&gt;At any rate, natural and synthetic testosterone are usually different at the subatomic level&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.  Not sure if that means it&#039;s easy or hard, but breaking down atoms would seem to suggest a bit of difficulty.

http://www.tomsarazac.com/tom/opinions/testosterone_d13C.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but determining synthetic or natural testosterone as I understand it is pretty easy</p></blockquote>
<p>According to this article*, <i>There is no difference between synthetic testosterone and naturally produced testosterone &#8211; they&#8217;re one and the same chemical. Same atoms, in the same configuration, forming the exact same molecule, with identical chemcial properties. At least at the atomic level. Once you mix natural and synthetic testosterone, you can&#8217;t separate them again, any more than you could separate Evian from Poland Springs bottled water after they&#8217;d been mixed. Actually that&#8217;s a bad example. It would be more akin to separating two kinds of distilled water from each other. Even that would be easier than testosterone, since one would presume that distilled water sources don&#8217;t change rapidly.</p>
<p><b>At any rate, natural and synthetic testosterone are usually different at the subatomic level</b></i>.  Not sure if that means it&#8217;s easy or hard, but breaking down atoms would seem to suggest a bit of difficulty.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tomsarazac.com/tom/opinions/testosterone_d13C.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tomsarazac.com/tom/opinions/testosterone_d13C.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cintiphil</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/ryan-braun-on-ped-charge-im-completely-innocent/comment-page-1/#comment-234467</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cintiphil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bonds is also innocent as so is Mac and so is Roger etc. etc. MLB has to verify and prove the results first, then take away the honors given him right away and give to the deserving guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonds is also innocent as so is Mac and so is Roger etc. etc. MLB has to verify and prove the results first, then take away the honors given him right away and give to the deserving guy.</p>
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		<title>By: buffalomafia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buffalomafia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He doesnt look like he is on steroids? Usually when you take steroids you get huge quick! Unless your like Roger Clemons &amp; get a big gut instead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesnt look like he is on steroids? Usually when you take steroids you get huge quick! Unless your like Roger Clemons &amp; get a big gut instead.</p>
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		<title>By: brewcrewfan54</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The difference being all those players played during a time where PED use was known and was rampant. Braun has been getting tested since day 1.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference being all those players played during a time where PED use was known and was rampant. Braun has been getting tested since day 1.</p>
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		<title>By: badmamainphilliesjamas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[badmamainphilliesjamas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to those who&#039;ve added some factual insight to this thread.  I&#039;ve become skeptical of much reported by the worldwide leader in moral outrage.  I&#039;ll reserve judgement until all of the information is available.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to those who&#8217;ve added some factual insight to this thread.  I&#8217;ve become skeptical of much reported by the worldwide leader in moral outrage.  I&#8217;ll reserve judgement until all of the information is available.</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/11/ryan-braun-on-ped-charge-im-completely-innocent/comment-page-1/#comment-234459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet more proof that Cur is the Rogue Chemist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet more proof that Cur is the Rogue Chemist.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check the batteries on your sarcasm detector.]]></description>
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