Comments on: Another call for an MVP re-vote http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Sun, 26 May 2013 01:11:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: foreverchipper10 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-235723 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:55:33 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235723 I would have voted for Kemp but I believe what’s done is done and Braun is the MVP whether the tests are positive, negative, whatever. As Craig mentioned in an earlier post about this you cannot call for a re-vote and potentially denounce Braun as MVP unless you re-vote for all the years Bonds and A-Rod and anyone else linked to steroids or PEDs won any sort of postseason award.

If ANYTHING they can do something similar to when Reggie Bush had to give up his Heisman and leave the award for that year vacated. I don’t agree with that logic but I believe Braun should keep his award.

]]> By: wood5050 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-235319 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:43:49 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235319 why do you have to call him that? the eggs on the people faces that voted for him.this never should been mvp any way

]]> By: thetooloftools http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235246 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:23:06 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235246 So let me get this straight. You can use performance enhancing drugs and while using them, get voted MVP, and then get suspended for 50 games?
What kind of sense does that make?
I have a better idea. Don’t test for ANY drugs and just let the players go nuts.

]]> By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235195 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:40:51 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235195

“Gayrod.”

Classic!

sigh,

yes, b/c calling people gay is funny!

]]> By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235194 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:40:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235194

“Gayrod.”

Classic!</blockquote

yes, b/c calling people gay is funny!

]]> By: metalhead65 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235150 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:57:10 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235150 I am all in favor of guilty untill priven innocent but in this case and others like it not so much. really how stupid do you have to be to fail a drug test? as a professional athelete why would put yourself even remotly in a position to fail by taking anything other than what your trainer and team supply you with? either you did or didn’t not that hard and the rules are pretty plain. I am sick of people like craig being outraged at the fact somebody got caught and now they have to pay for it. you and other stat morons may think it is ok to do whatever it takes to get your precious numbers but older long time fans who have played and watched baseball our whole life do think there is something wrong in cheating to get those numbers. and because there are rules to prevent people from doing it they should serve the penalty when they get caught. because of the numbers he put up he won a award for being the best in the game and you think it is ok he cheated to get it? Kemp did not and last I checked he did not fail a drug test so we must assume he came by his numbers honestly. now go ahead and make fun of my grammer, spelling and the fact I disagree with you as you usally do when disagreeing with my view.

]]> By: JBerardi http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235144 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:40:24 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235144 A ten year old would probably have the sense to avoid making 200+ HTTP calls for a bunch of unless web analytics crap… hey, HBT corporate overlords, you want some analysis? Give us some good content (you do) in a readable site (it’s reasonable) that loads quickly (massive fail). You don’t need to track every freaking mouse click, this stuff isn’t that complicated. Just make your website work better!

]]> By: 18thstreet http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235143 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:39:24 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235143 “Gayrod.”

Classic!

]]> By: 18thstreet http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235142 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:38:22 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235142 With Roger Clemens, clucking all the while
Mike Scocia’s tragic illness made us smile
While Wade Boggs lay unconscious on the barroom tile.

]]> By: JBerardi http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235141 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:36:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235141 Uhh… Roger Clemens? Andy Petttttttttttttitte (however many fucking Ts he has in his name)? Gary Sheffield? Alex Rodriguez? Jason Giambi? Are these names ringing any bells for you?

]]> By: cintiphil http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235123 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:16:02 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235123 I wanted Kemp to get it all along.

]]> By: Old Gator http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235119 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:11:51 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235119 “All of Milwaukee has come against me.”
…Toussaint Louverture

]]> By: brewcrewfan54 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235096 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:30:46 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235096 Ha!

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235094 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:27:01 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235094 <3

]]> By: m22pank http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235093 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:27:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235093 Yes I must be a Yankee hater…don’t foget the fact that A-Rod has openly admitted to using steriods during his MVP year…but if that makes me a Yankee hater…than I’m good with that…and you proved another of my points, three of the four guys you mentioned were Amereican League guys…you also forgot McGwire and Clemens…

I was just trying to say that it feels as though the writer was biased…calling out Braun before all the facts come out, and calling out other guys but totally neglecting to include the guy for the team he covers and players from teams that the Yankees play all the time?!? That seems a little fishy to me…if the guy feels he should make a stink over something that is still being investigated, he should probably be ready to admit to mistakes from the team he covers, not pass the buck to other parts of the league that doesn’t affect the Yankees…

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235092 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:25:16 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235092 no but someone made a “homer at bat” reference in the Manny blog

]]> By: koufaxmitzvah http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235089 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:18:39 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235089 Subtle stupidity is still stupid.

]]> By: Old Gator http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235088 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:16:36 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235088 No charge.

]]> By: phillyphreak http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235087 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:16:25 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235087 Gayrod. Clever.

Food for thought: http://joeposnanski.si.com/2010/08/06/what-if-we-are-wrong-again-about-steroids/

]]> By: stoutfiles http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235085 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:16:13 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235085 Nope. This site was coded by a ten year old.

]]> By: bobwsc http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235084 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:16:09 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235084 seek help

]]> By: stoutfiles http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235082 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:14:41 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235082 . Did I fix the italics?

]]> By: sasquash20 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235079 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:05:09 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235079 steroids most certainly help you hit home runs. Anyone who disagrees is brain dead. Look at Big Mac, Sosa, Gayrod, Bonds. What did they all just suddenly figure out how to hit 15-25 more jacks a year at the same time out of nowhere?

]]> By: Jonny 5 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235076 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:02:52 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235076 My wife does too. She’s sworn off scrubbing our clothes on a rock in the river and gone Maytag 100% of the time. She hates smoke signals, it’s the Phone from here on out. Nothing to be ashamed of imo…. PS: Chris beware of the spin cycle though, it’s been known to kill marriages…

]]> By: sasquash20 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235075 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:01:10 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235075 I’m a Yankoff hater. Just so everyone knows. Gayrod should be treated like the cheater that he is and was. I have no respect and never will have respect for anything he accomplished on the field. Yeah he clearly isn’t juicing now. His numbers show that. His body shows how much he must have juiced. He has missed multiple chunks of time the last few years for steriod related injuries.

All that being said all the guys you mentioned are just as bad as gayrod. Maybe even more so.

]]> By: bravojawja http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235074 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:01:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235074 Dude – I think you left your tag open

]]> By: 18thstreet http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235072 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:57:48 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235072 Wait, did someone make this joke already? Because I was sure I was going to get a flood of thumbs up for it.

]]> By: sasquash20 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235070 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:55:17 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235070 They should take all of there awards away to disgrace them. The same way they disgraced the record books. I say wait to the facts come out on RB, before we bury him. That being said he shouldn’t have gotten the MVP in the first place. Feilder had a good season as well. I thought they should have canceled out each other. Kemp in my opinion should have gotten the MVP. I know his team sucked, but he had a monster year.

]]> By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235065 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:52:09 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235065 just copy/paste the entire url, don’t have to use any html tags to get it to embed. see

]]> By: Chris Fiorentino http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/another-call-for-an-mvp-re-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-235064 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:49:53 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102877#comment-235064 Wow that’s a real dick thing to say…and what a surprise…24 assholes vote thumbs up about something they don’t know anything about. F U people.

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