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The Rangers aren’t really hot for Prince Fielder

Dec 13, 2011, 8:10 AM EST

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We keep hearing reports about teams interested in Prince Fielder. Without putting too fine a point on it, however, those reports often seem to come from people who have been said to have Prince Fielder’s agent as a valued source.

Others, however, specifically Ken Rosenthal, are hearing different things. Specifically with respect to the Rangers, who are one team frequently mentioned as having an interest in Fielder:

The Rangers are more focused on trading for a starting pitcher than signing free-agent first baseman Prince Fielder or even pursuing Japanese right-hander Yu Darvish, according to major league sources.

The team’s payroll flexibility, sources say, is not as significant as many in the industry previously believed. Thus, the Rangers are exploring more cost-effective moves for pitchers such as Cubs right-hander Matt Garza, Athletics lefty Gio Gonzalez and Rays righty Wade Davis.

The key there, Rosenthal says, is that the Rangers big TV deal which often gets cited as the source of new wealth does not kick in until 2015.

Someone is going to sign Prince Fielder. But at the moment that someone doesn’t sound like the Texas Rangers.

  1. unclemosesgreen - Dec 13, 2011 at 8:19 AM

    Maybe the Cubs are going to get him after all. Theo is smart enough not to negotiate against himself, so my new prediction is that the Cubs are the only team left standing in the Fielder sweepstakes. They’re the only bee in his bonnet.

    • paperlions - Dec 13, 2011 at 8:50 AM

      You know who bids against themselves and gets ripped for it by their fans? Every team.

      You know who gets ripped by fans when they don’t bid against themselves? Every team.

      Free agency isn’t an auction format, it is a series of negotiations, which, by default, results in teams bidding against themselves during the process.

      • unclemosesgreen - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:36 AM

        Condescending and pointless award for the day to paperlions. 3 statements – all equally false and pointless. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

      • paperlions - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:05 AM

        It is also true….as GM of the Red Sox, Theo has a long and glorious history of bidding against himself.

    • Jonny 5 - Dec 13, 2011 at 8:50 AM

      “Theo is smart enough not to negotiate against himself”

      Yeah because teams were lining up to pay Crawford $142 million for a seven-year contract, right? And he even traded for Adrian Gonzalez so he could offer him a $154 million 7 year contract because of all the other teams who were bidding him up…… Oh wait, nobody could get in on that, because the deal was cut while the BoSox still had team control through the trade… That’s right.. What were you saying again???

      • deadeyedesign23 - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:02 AM

        According to Moreno the Angels matched the Sox offer.

      • unclemosesgreen - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:34 AM

        You still think Theo was running the RedSox? Do you still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny? Also, all of the punctuation keys on your keyboard seem to be sticking – you should work on that.

      • Jonny 5 - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:51 AM

        It was his job to run the BoSox, wasn’t it? Actually thinking that he didn’t do his job because he wasn’t allowed to is myth, more so than the reverse, which is that he actually did what he was paid very handsomely to do. And I’ll make sure I don’t tell Santa or the Easter bunny about your obvious lack of belief. I wouldn’t want them to skip your house. Next you’ll tell me the Tooth fairy didn’t visit me as a child. As if…

        PS, I like multiple punctuation… I’m a trend setter of sorts. So I’m saying get used to it, as it will soon become mainstream and seem normal. Like when men tight rolled their jeans, or the mullet was popular.

      • jwbiii - Dec 13, 2011 at 11:45 AM

        “I like multiple punctuation… I’m a trend setter of sorts.”

        It was cool in Celine’s Death on the Installment Plan. Since 1936? Not so much.

      • unclemosesgreen - Dec 13, 2011 at 1:11 PM

        As ever Jonny 5, you are a tedious imbecile. Larry Lucchino is President and CEO of the Boston Red Sox. He has run the Red Sox since the moment John Henry bought the team. You assume that Theo runs the Cubs, but his title is President of Baseball Operations. And his GM is Jed Hoyer. Yet you assume Theo runs the Cubs and your reptilian brain makes no differentiation and sounds no alarm at the impossibility of Theo both being in charge of baseball decisions while at the Red Sox and now with the Cubs.

        You can’t have it both ways.

  2. proudlycanadian - Dec 13, 2011 at 8:27 AM

    It has long been speculated that Boras has a penchant for exaggerating the interest in his clients. It is very easy to do so without actually lying. All you have to do is contact a team about a client and ask what they are willing to pay. Even if the team mentions a low dollar value, the agent can thus say that the team expressed an interest in his client.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Dec 13, 2011 at 8:32 AM

      Or he can just tell Heyman to make shit up and continue to act as his shill.

      • cur68 - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:06 AM

        See, now this is why you get blocked by him on twitter. Any second now he’ll come along, after doing his morning search using his name in google, and give you a thumbs down. Shills are sensitive.

      • cur68 - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:06 AM

        See?

  3. Chris Fiorentino - Dec 13, 2011 at 8:39 AM

    How long before Bor-ass starts crying “Collusion”?

    • paperlions - Dec 13, 2011 at 8:47 AM

      Yeah, owners would never ever do that….ever.

      The owners are constantly involved in collusion-like behavior…..slotting for draft picks, MLB not approving over-slot signings until the last day, thereby retarding tee development of draftees, discussions with each other about the value of things that leads to collusion-like price fixing, owners that spend a lot getting ripped by MLB or other owners, and then, of course, actual collusion.

      If the owners didn’t constantly work in concert to keep the cost of things down…which, by definition is collusion. If they didn’t do that, then no one would “cry collusion” or be right so often when they do.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Dec 13, 2011 at 8:50 AM

        So do you think the owners are colluding against Fielder, or do you think they all think the same thing…that maybe his body type won’t hold up over the length of contract that Bor-ass is looking to get his client?

      • paperlions - Dec 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM

        I have no idea about this case….I was speaking in general terms. In general, the approach of the owners is to work in concert….in some aspects, that is necessary as they are members of a single entity and must reach consensus, but that cooperation often spills over into price-fixing.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:35 AM

        So basically, while I was dealing with a specific case…Bor-ass whining about his client, Prince Fielder, not getting the huge money deal that he thinks he should get, you decided to lecture me in a condescending tone, about how the owners have, in the past, colluded…as if I insinuated that they have never colluded?

      • unclemosesgreen - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:38 AM

        paperlions, you are retarding the quality of this message board. Please collude with your keyboard to make it stop.

      • Old Gator - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:50 AM

        Chris – I’ve been banging the stay-away-from-Fielder drum for weeks now, terrified that the Feesh – who seem to be hauling themselves back from the brink of self-immolating penury to the status of solid contender – would cripple their budget and on-field performance by bringing in the next great one-man disabled list. I can’t imagine any team’s head trainer or primary sports orthopedist not telling their owner or GM point-blank that the guy has to lose a hundred pounds and go on a major reconditioning program before they should even think about him.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:07 AM

        OG, I agree and I think that will give Bor-ass cause to cry out “Collusion” because he can’t get his younger client a 10 year big contract while an older guy like Pujols gets 10 years and all that cash. You know that Pujols contract chapped his ass and he is going to do everything in his power to get Fielder something close. Not to mention, he probably told Fielder he would get 7-8 years and $160 million.

      • Old Gator - Dec 13, 2011 at 11:30 AM

        Yeah, notwithstanding that Pujols is built like a brick shithouse and probably registers about 3% body fat on the day he shows up for spring training. Fielder needs a sense of perspective.

  4. cintiphil - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:34 AM

    Just two observations here. One: Boras is the one agent which I am fairly sure that has the best interest of his client first. After the Pujols thing, I have some doubt about Lozano.
    Two: I thought Ryan was a smarter baseball man than this. How can anyone not see that his lineup with Prince in it is dynamite! Unmatched by any in the major leagues.

    • cintiphil - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:37 AM

      And, there may be some hesitation on any owners part to do business with Boras for his approach. That is not necessarily collusion, but doing what he does best, Boras can make the charge.

      • jwbiii - Dec 13, 2011 at 11:55 AM

        The only team without a Boras client last season was the Twins. I think this notion is more popular on message boards than in real life.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Dec 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM

      I guess if you define “best interest of his client” being “getting the most money for his client” then I agree with you 100%. However, I think that sometimes getting the most money isn’t always in his client’s best interest. Sometimes, giving up a few million to play somewhere he is happy is in the client’s best interest, but it seems that Bor-ass clients rarely do that. I’m feeling extra chippy against Bor-ass after he screwed up the whole Madson situation.

      • cintiphil - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:07 AM

        Yes, I am assuming that these guys all want the most money, unless they state otherwise. there are some teams a guy will not play for not matter what, but very few. Money is the biggest driver in this case, as Prince said from April or earlier, that he would not resign with the Brewers because he knew they could not pay what he was going to ask.

      • paperlions - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM

        Chris, Boras’ clients do that on a regular basis (about as often as non-Boras clients), but those deals never get any press. Boras does appear to do what his clients want him to do. If they tell him to get the most money, then he does. If he tells them they prefer a certain team, he works that angle while trying to get the most out of that team. I know everyone loves to hate the guy, but he is a great agent….he is also the best at directing hatred at himself rather than his clients….you think Pujols would be taking this public relations beating if Boras had been his client? No way, Boras would have made sure that all of that venom was directed at him.

      • umrguy42 - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:27 AM

        PL, if only Pujols had been a Boras client – St. Louis fans would’ve known from the start that most likely it was totally gonna be about who ponied up the most money, no matter what Albert said…

      • paperlions - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:42 AM

        Yep, and Boras would have been the “bad guy”….and probably would have had Albert alluding to such things for years ahead of time rather than blathering on disingenuously about other things.

      • cintiphil - Dec 13, 2011 at 2:53 PM

        EXACTLY!

  5. paperlions - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM

    You regularly hear front office people say things like “it only takes one rogue owner to drive up prices”. Implicit in that type of statement is that all of the other owners have agreed on value and NOT to drive up prices.

  6. El Bravo - Dec 13, 2011 at 10:49 AM

    ESPN has an Insider article about six potentially interested teams. Someone go check that out and tell me what’s going on with that! Stupid Insider…

    • uberfatty - Dec 13, 2011 at 11:14 AM

      The Mag is pretty cheap, comes with Insider access, and you can ask ESPN customer service to have it delivered to an active service member overseas.

      Win-Win-Win.

  7. isujames - Dec 13, 2011 at 12:49 PM

    Yea the Rangers should sign fielder,that way when they go up against elite teams with good pitchers and hitters like the yankees and red sox they will be outpitched and outslugged because they have no good arms.

    • cintiphil - Dec 13, 2011 at 2:58 PM

      Who said? The Rangers have some great young pitchers and they (Nolan Ryan) feel they are set with pitchers. Who said that Boston and the Yankees have great pitching staffs? What happened last season? how did the Yankees really improve that much over last year? if the Rangers have something to worry about, it will be the Tigers pitching with the new signings. But, no team (AL or NL) could match the hitting line up the Rangers can field with Prince.

  8. stew48 - Dec 14, 2011 at 2:27 PM

    Wow! (note only one ! here) I read a lot of NFL blog comments and they must average about an 8th grade level ability. Except for one, unidentified, comment, I truly enjoyed reading these since I do want the Cubs to sign Fielder. Regarding his alleged body, I understand he has averaged 157 games per year for four or five straight. Just as important, please get pictures of his Dad while with the Tigers——–a duplicate. Oops, there goes my finger on -. Yes, I did see him more than once and for several years running. Don’t forget when communicating, “Easy Does It”.

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