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Jimmy Rollins and the Phillies are not close to a deal

Dec 14, 2011, 11:44 AM EDT

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Last night we learned that [insert ominous music] a Mystery Team was talking to Jimmy Rollins. Maybe they’re making mystery headway, because Scott Miller of CBS says today that the Phillies and Rollins are nowhere close to a deal.

The Phillies and Rollins are still talking, but it may be a while.  Unless there’s real mystery here, the market for Rollins has shrunk a bit in the past week, and it seems like he’s inevitably going back to Philly. Which, for purely subjective reasons, I hope is the case.  There aren’t many active players in baseball who would look more out of place in a different uniform than Rollins.

  1. seanmk - Dec 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM

    besides the tigers i’m not sure what other team would be in the market for rollins at this point

    • kellyb9 - Dec 14, 2011 at 11:59 AM

      I tend to agree. I think Rube called Rollins’ bluff. Good move, I wouldn’t mind him back, but the contract has to be right at this point in his career.

  2. Jonny 5 - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    The Braves don’t really have a short stop yet. Do they?

    • spudchukar - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM


    • foreverchipper10 - Dec 15, 2011 at 1:35 PM

      I don’t see them making a play for Rollins. If anything the Braves could use a veteran SS for this year but nothing more.

  3. rexadelphia8 - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:12 PM

    Let him go already, to a shitty team at that. He’s lazy and I’m sick of his attitude. He doesn’t know what he has in Philly

    • bklynbaseball - Dec 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM

      ??? Have you ever met Jimmy Rollins?? Lazy? Attitude? We’re not talking about Hanley Ramirez here. J-Roll is one of the good guys, buddy. Shocking statement from a Phillies Phan.

      • chadjones27 - Dec 14, 2011 at 1:58 PM

        I think he’s referring to the 2 or 3 times in his career that he didn’t run out pop flys he hit that were dropped. Oh, and then about 2 years ago he referred to the fans as front runners. So, yeah, he’s lazy and has a bad attitude. Never mind the fact that even through his last two injury plagued seasons he still played some pretty good defense.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Dec 14, 2011 at 3:58 PM

        I am a Phillies phan and Rollins was right….there are many fans of the Phillies who are front runners. It isn’t meant to be derogatory…just a statement of fact.

      • sheratonii - Dec 14, 2011 at 4:54 PM

        I’d rather he didn’t run out the pop flies or the easy groundouts. He’s already had leg issues, why risk making it worse busting out of the box every time the ball’s put in play? Jimmy will always run when it matters. If he thinks he has a triple off the bat or can beat out an infield hit, he will do so. If he makes an out the .01% of the time the second baseman bobbles the ball, oops. I’d rather have him return to the bench for 2 innings than 15 days.

  4. WhenMattStairsIsKing - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

    Sign with Philly or don’t work at all Jimmy, because those are likely your options. Unless of course you want to take a 50% salary cut so that Detroit can afford you.

    And another thing – no one wants to sign you through age 38. Wake up!

  5. fatass5 - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

    the Braves dont have the money to sign him, the phils better sign him if not there is no one left that could help this team

  6. somekat - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:19 PM

    3 years, 33 million, with a team option for a 4th. 10-11 mil if he stays, 3 mil if they don’t want him back. Take it or leave it.
    I have a strong dislike peronsally for Rollins (No, I will not forget that he said “all Phillies fans are front runners”. After all the years I spent watching him and 8 other bumbs lose near 100 games a year, or spend 5 seasons collapsing in September), but he is still serviceable. He’s great with the glove, and a plus player on the base paths.
    However, he is declining year after year at the plate, has spent a lot of time inured over the past 3 years, and is a terrible lead off hitter who pouts and whines if he isn’t in the leadoff spot. At this point, I’m not more excited about Rollins than I would of been about Furcal, or any of the other guys that have/will move around this off-season.
    At this point, the “leadership” label is all that you are paying him for. Personally, I think guys like Doc, Lee, Hamels, Papplebom, Utley, Chooch, Polanco (if he’s back) and Victorino can lead themselves, and take over any void Rollins leaving would cause.

    I’m not saying I don’t want him back, I’m just saying that I want him back at a good price (I would say “fair”, but IMO, 10-11 million is more than “fair” for Rollins’ current skill level

    • PhillieBirds - Dec 14, 2011 at 2:17 PM

      I have been saying for a while that Jimmy thinks he’s more valuable to this team than he really is, but some of your statements are absurd and completely inaccurate.

      Jimmy started playing full time for the team in 2001 and a team he’s been on has never lost more than 81 games, and are usually well over .500, so “him and 8 other bumbs” never lost close to 100 games. Also the Phillies, even before they got over the hump in 2007 and won the division, have no such history of collapsing in Septembers. I’d guess, without looking at the numbers, that over his career they are probably one of the best, if not the best team in September over the years.

      So while I agree on some of your points, and don’t want to overpay for him, a lot of your argument is flat out wrong.

  7. kingjoe1 - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:29 PM

    They arent close because Rollins is out of his mind. 2 yr 20 mil is tops for him, and that is over-paying

    • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:41 PM

      Agreed. He’s a mid-30’s shortstop whose best offensive days are way behind him. Him signing for significant money would be the same reason guys like Jeter have.

      • deathmonkey41 - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM

        And Rollins doesn’t even give out autographed baseballs as parting gifts.

      • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Dec 14, 2011 at 1:54 PM

        That joke is seriously never going to get old.

      • Francisco (FC) - Dec 14, 2011 at 2:39 PM

        And Rollins doesn’t even give out autographed baseballs as parting gifts.

        If he did, he would be in a LOT of trouble…

    • seanmk - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM

      i think a deal similiar to the one aramis ramirez just got sounds good in terms of dollars and years but rollins would probably get more dollars

  8. Kyle - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM

    I feel like we can count the Giants out. They’re claiming to be Zito’d, I mean, tapped out.

  9. 12strikes - Dec 14, 2011 at 12:43 PM

    “There aren’t many active players in baseball who would look more out of place in a different uniform than Rollins.”

    Conversely…. Barry Bonds will look JUST RIGHT in his new prison strips uniform.

  10. bleedgreen - Dec 14, 2011 at 1:37 PM

    He hasn’t spent a whole lot of time IN a phillies uniform the past 2 seasons, as evidenced by Juan Castro and Wilson Valdez playing a boat load of games for him.

  11. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 14, 2011 at 1:55 PM

    While the market has shrunk for Rollins, the supply of shortstops has also shrunk considerably. If Rollins signs with the Tigers, who is Philly going to turn to? Short of trading Cole Hamels to the Marlins, there are no short stops around who come close to Rollins production, even after a few down seasons.

  12. purnellmeagrejr - Dec 14, 2011 at 2:04 PM

    it’s early – very early.

  13. ame123 - Dec 14, 2011 at 2:48 PM

    JRoll is a smart business man. He’s already raking it in with Red Bull and Justin Bieber songs. He’ll get a fair deal, but it surely wont be 5 years.

  14. smokehouse56 - Dec 14, 2011 at 4:18 PM

    You may disagree but Rollins has the the heart and soul of the Phillies. That 38 game hitting streak, a extra inning double that sent the Dodgers packing in the 2008 Division Series. Real Phillies fans love this man. I hope they can get together. He’s a 5 tool player. But, he is getting older like all of us. Can the Phillies win without him. Of course they can. Why did the Phillies win. Look up the middle with Utley and Rollins. That’s why.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Dec 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM

      I won’t go so far as to say that Rollins is a 5 tool player but Smokehouse is largely right. By all accounts Rollins is the clubhouse leader. While not as important as in other sports, being the emotional leader of a team is not something that can be dismissed or easily replaced.

  15. mytownsaves - Dec 15, 2011 at 12:19 AM

    We all know Jimmy wants the big payday and he is going to get a good on, if he plays great in the 3 year deal he will get another solid deal after that. He isn’t Reyes at this stage of his career but Reyes isn’t worth that deal he got either.

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