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Ed Wade to rejoin Phillies in scouting department

Dec 20, 2011, 12:09 AM EDT

Ed Wade

Confirming what Richard Justice of first relayed earlier tonight, John Finger and Jim Salisbury of have learned that Ed Wade will rejoin the Phillies as a member of their scouting department. Wait a minute, did he ever actually leave?

Wade previously served as general manager with the Phillies from 1998-2005 and even hired current GM Ruben Amaro, Jr as an assistant during his tenure. He was GM of the Astros for the last four seasons before being fired late last month as part of some housecleaning by the club’s new owner Jim Crane.

It’s fun to needle Wade due to his general body of work in Houston and constant dealings with the Phillies, but just because he was a subpar general manager doesn’t mean he’s a bad baseball man. The same could be said for former Mets GM Omar Minaya, who was recently hired as a senior VP of baseball operations with the Padres. Still, some chuckles are a perfectly acceptable response to this news.

  1. grapes911 - Dec 20, 2011 at 12:19 AM

    He is a terrible GM but I have to give him his due. He drafting Utley, Howard, and Hamels. Throw in Burrell and Myers as well. He was an assistant GM when Rollins was drafted. That’s basically the heart of the Phillies 2008 WC team. I know as GM he didn’t personally scout these guys, but he clearly has some type of eye for young talent. I have no problem with the Phillies hiring him for their scouting department.

    • paperlions - Dec 20, 2011 at 9:09 AM

      GMs don’t draft, scouting departments do, with the final call on picks typically made by the scouting director. The person you should be giving credit for those picks is Mike Arbuckle, who is currently with KC and a major reason their farm system is now regarded as the best in baseball right now.

      • phillyphreak - Dec 20, 2011 at 9:32 AM

        Are they really that separated? I have only a small idea of how a front office really works, top to bottom. Regardless, it doesn’t mean that Wade doesn’t deserve some credit for things.

      • paperlions - Dec 20, 2011 at 10:02 AM

        Yes, they are. For most teams, the GM has absolutely nothing to do with player selection….that simply isn’t part of his job description. On some teams the GM may give advice about early picks if they need a “quick to the majors” option at a particular position, for the most part the GM has nothing to do with scouting/drafting.

      • phillyphreak - Dec 20, 2011 at 10:05 AM

        Ok, that’s pretty much what I’ve learned also in my reading. Thanks for the response paper.

        Though I’m still inclined to give him a little credit for handling the team. At least he didn’t trade those guys away……

      • paperlions - Dec 20, 2011 at 11:00 AM

        Oh, I totally agree that he should be given credit for handling the MLB team and trusting their picks rather than always trading them off for vets….but acquiring the guys in the first place, that’s on Arbuckle. Just like it takes a lot of talent on the field to win, it takes a lot of people gathering and sorting through information to make good baseball decisions to build a team.

      • phillyphreak - Dec 20, 2011 at 11:39 AM


  2. grapes911 - Dec 20, 2011 at 12:21 AM

    It’s 12:20 AM. Ignore the terrible grammar.

  3. drunkenhooliganism - Dec 20, 2011 at 12:28 AM

    Why would he have to rejoin the Phillies. It’s obvious he never left.

    • drunkenhooliganism - Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 AM

      edit function. I hit reply by accident.

      to continue: He was obviously placed on the astros by the Master Ninja (FYI- Gillick’s the one pulling the strings here.) Now Wade will rebuild his name in baseball by getting credit for some great finds and he’ll get a job somewhere else. I’m thinking Washington, they’re getting feisty.

      • evanwins - Dec 20, 2011 at 1:00 AM

        And upon “earning” his newly found position in Washington, he will again assume his double-agent role and proceed to trade any of their great young talent to the Phillies for “not bad” prospects (but not so bad as to arouse any suspicions), thus helping ensure that the Philadelphia Phillies remain a dominant force in baseball for the 5 years following.

        Insert sinister laugh here.

  4. chadjones27 - Dec 20, 2011 at 12:36 AM

    Does this mean the Phillies will now only be trading with the Phillies?

  5. stex52 - Dec 20, 2011 at 8:20 AM

    I never wished him ill. I just wished him gone from the Astros. In truth, the only good trades he made for the Astros were with Philly because he knew that organization (example, Michael Bourne for Brad Lidge).

    Now he is back where he is better, in the scouting function. He needs to learn a little bit about that new-fangled Sabermetrics that all the young whippersnappers are talking about.

    Good luck, Ed, and stay far away from Houston.

  6. Francisco (FC) - Dec 20, 2011 at 8:42 AM

    I’ve read somewhere that Ed was good in the trade department, exchanging stars for emerging talent. His big problem was evaluating and acquiring good free agents, the complementary pieces to a good team. I hope to find that link and share it. He’s been a tad underrated…

  7. Jonny 5 - Dec 20, 2011 at 8:50 AM

    He’s a Mole! A double agent! A robbing, raping, pillager! But he’s our robbing, raping, pillaging, double agent mole. So I like him.

  8. trevorb06 - Dec 20, 2011 at 9:23 AM

    If I’m not mistaken I totally called this in a comment a couple months ago.

  9. deathmonkey41 - Dec 20, 2011 at 9:56 AM

    He’s going to Anaheim to scout Bobby Abreu and bring him back into the Philly fold.

  10. mojosmagic - Dec 20, 2011 at 1:03 PM

    Just don’t let him take any calls from Billy Beane.

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