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Carlos Beltran will bat second for the Cardinals

Dec 23, 2011, 5:00 PM EDT

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Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak told Bernie Miklasz today that he envisions Carlos Beltran batting second in the Cardinals lineup.  So the presumption is:

1. Furcal
2. Beltran
3. Holliday
4. Berkman
5. Freese
6. Molina

And then whatnot and so forth and the pitcher most likely ninth because Tony La Russa isn’t around to screw around anymore.

Gotta say: not too shabby.

  1. rooney24 - Dec 23, 2011 at 5:33 PM

    Isn’t that the manager’s call, not the GM? Is that an order from the GM to Matheny? Did Matheny get hired, so Mozeliak can tell him what to do? I hope not. I hope this is just wishful thinking from Mozeliak and that Matheny had full rein to do whatever he wants with the lineup.

    • timstl - Dec 23, 2011 at 5:52 PM

      He was just interviewing Mozeliak. The lineup comes from conversations between Mozeliak and Matheny. Bernie clarified that here:

      • okwhitefalcon - Dec 23, 2011 at 6:07 PM

        Speaking of Mozeliak and Miklasz, the latter wrote an interesting article on the former
        a few days ago in the St Louis Post Dispatch.

        Opinions on its content nonwithstanding, it’s a good read.

        http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-mozeliak-now-cards-main-man/article_056b1e12-318e-5dd0-859e-d973822010f6.html

      • posterkid88 - Dec 23, 2011 at 7:02 PM

        He did the same thing when he anointed Descalso the starting second baseman even before a new manager was hired. I wonder whose conversations he was relaying with that.

  2. baseballisboring - Dec 23, 2011 at 5:33 PM

    The loss of Albert is definitely survivable.

    • 78mu - Dec 23, 2011 at 7:08 PM

      In 11 years of Pujols the Cardinals won two WS. So 9 teams survived just fine without him.

      Of course it’s a lot easier to win with him than without. And the Cardinals don’t even make the playoffs in 2006 or 2011 without him.

  3. paulsdamnblog - Dec 23, 2011 at 5:41 PM

    1. Furcal-34 (35 next Oct.)
    2. Beltran-34 (35 next Apr.)
    3. Holliday-31 (32 in Jan.)
    4. Berkman-35 (36 in Feb.)
    5. Freese-28 (29 in Apr.)
    6. Molina-29 (30 in Jul.)

    Nice balance, but a little long in the tooth.

    • 78mu - Dec 23, 2011 at 6:02 PM

      At least none of them have ten year contracts for more than 25 million per.

      • henryd3rd - Dec 23, 2011 at 7:48 PM

        Alex, Pujos, Ryan and etc are laughing all the way to the bank. The fan criticize the players; but no one ever put a gun to a GM or owner and made them sign off on those humongous contract.

    • fearlessleader - Dec 23, 2011 at 6:03 PM

      True, and the Cards will have to pray to the gods of good health this season. The happy news is that the most senior members of the lineup are signed for only one or two years, and the farm system has some exciting young players who should be able to work their way into the lineup by 2013 or 2014, if not sooner. I like the combination of veteran leadership and young energy that we ought to see.

      We will miss Albert—hell, I already do—but I’m eager to see what this team can accomplish.

      • mrfloydpink - Dec 23, 2011 at 6:41 PM

        That kid Colby Rasmus should be doing some exciting things for the Cards by 2013 or 2014 and he will…oh, uh, wait. Hmmmmm. Never mind.

      • spudchukar - Dec 24, 2011 at 8:53 PM

        He has been in numerous trade talks leaking out of Toronto this off-season after his brief stay in Canada, while St. Louis will be hoisting their WS champion flag, and posting Rasmus’ ring to him by Pony Express.

  4. yankeesgameday - Dec 23, 2011 at 7:35 PM

    Still a team that wins their division now that Milwaukee is mostly toast

    • brosterik - Dec 24, 2011 at 12:36 AM

      Toast? We retained everybody that had an impact last year except Prince Fielder. We replaced him with Aramis Ramirez. Yes we will lose out on 12 more homeruns, but we will also save wayyy more than 12 runs with better defense at 3rd, SS, and 1st base. You guys lost PUJOLS and replaced him with old man Beltran. No comparison at all. Hopefully Berkman flops. GO Brewers!

      • spudchukar - Dec 24, 2011 at 4:08 AM

        You obviously have not watched Ramirez play much 3B. And your bullpen has taken a major hit, and you conveniently forgot that St. Louis will not be asking Franklin to close, nor have Theriot flailing at SS, plus they will be handing Wainwright the ball every 5th day as the Crew patiently awaits Braun’s return.

  5. scatterbrian - Dec 23, 2011 at 7:49 PM

    That lineup could be gimpy in a hurry….and seems to have a little too much faith in Freese being the player he was in October

    • astrozac - Dec 24, 2011 at 1:03 AM

      Freese did decent earlier in the season, before he got injured. But you’re right it’s a strong possibility about the injury bug. And Freese and Holliday are both doing pretty good job of taking Scott Rolen’s former role of managing to get the silliest injuries….But honestly isn’t that the case with almost any team with talent,

      Plus Alan Craig would be hitting somewhere higher than 7th…

      • cintiphil - Dec 24, 2011 at 2:03 PM

        No one knows where anyone will be hitting. Once Spring training is over, the manager will decide who to bat where. This is just all talk, and if I am not mistaken, Matheny has the last word.

  6. wardmanone - Dec 23, 2011 at 8:17 PM

    Hey get the full story Mo said he had talked to Methany about this per Bernie so get grip and by the way why wouldn’t he bat second? As far as the other nonsense I am reading long on the tooth etc etc keep believing your Cubbies, Brew Crews Reds and last but not least Phillies have really improved themselves REALLY? Go back to making your own blogs that your Mom helps out with…. GO CARDS

    • dwrek5 - Dec 23, 2011 at 8:48 PM

      “Go back to making your own blogs that your Mom helps out with”… CLASSIC!!!

  7. areyesrn - Dec 24, 2011 at 5:49 AM

    that line is still more potent than my phillies…

  8. wardmanone - Dec 24, 2011 at 12:38 PM

    brosterik, you been eating way to much Cheese, as it’s clogging the oxygen to your head. Defense better how’s that again 3rd basement who is known take off defensively not innings but games a SS who is more offensive then Defensive and you have Who at 1st or Who is in left? Better enjoy Badgers playing Rose Bowl and Packer run because its going to be a l o n g season!

  9. cintiphil - Dec 24, 2011 at 1:59 PM

    I have to agree with that last comment from ward…
    The Brewers did not improve their team on defense, and they have a huge hole at first base compared to last season. And Braun is going to get off to a slow start. Ricky can’t do it alone. You had better hope Gallardo is on top of his game, and Greinke will improve over last NLCS. And that Marcum, how bad did he do in last playoffs? I think the Cubs will be better than the Brewers next year, and perhaps Pittsburgh. It will be the Brew Crew fighting the Astros for the bottom.

  10. dickclydesdale - Dec 24, 2011 at 8:35 PM

    Beltran is not a 2 hitter because he does not run anymore and he is more of a threat batting lower so he can drive in runs. Furcal is not a good lead off man anymore so i dont see him doing much.
    I would prefer Freese batting 2nd & Beltran batting 3rd with Holiday 4th & Berkman 5th.

    • martyb59 - Dec 28, 2011 at 6:38 PM

      dicky, your point doesn’t make much sense to me… you advocate Beltran batting lower in the order, because he doesn’t run very well anymore. You want to replace him with Freese, a guy that runs terrible! Beltran could have a leg amputated and hop around the bases one legged faster than Freese!
      I don’t mind the order revealed by Mozeliak, with one notable exception, where is Craig in that order? I would put him at 6th and move Yadi to 7th. btw: Craig says he expects to be ready to go by the 2nd week of the season…

  11. oldballer - Dec 28, 2011 at 6:59 PM

    Loved reading this blog thread almost a much as playing the game which I still do… but not so greatly. Loved Albert, but a 10 year gravy train was not making sense and would have hurt the team in the long run. Thanks for many great memories Albert, but get your reward from Heaven… uh I meant the Angels. BTW, Brew Crew has hit the high water mark for a few years.

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