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The Giants and Tim Lincecum are far apart in talks for a long term deal

Dec 28, 2011, 4:45 PM EDT

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Last month we learned that the Giants and Tim Lincecum are trying to work out a long term deal. Jon Heyman reports today, however, that there is a “sizable gap” between the sides.

The gap, Heyman says, is about years as much as money. The team had previously offered a four-year deal, and have reportedly improved on it, but Lincecum wants eight years. Which one wonders if anyone is ever willing to do for a pitcher.

Lincecum still has two more years before he can be a free agent, but his arbitration figures are going to be big, eventually hitting $20 million, one figures, so there is an incentive here for the Giants to make something happen, even if it’s just a buyout of the arbitration years.

  1. baseballisboring - Dec 28, 2011 at 4:53 PM

    Well…we know Sabean loves to sign middle-aged/declining performers. Does that work with extensions too? Screw it, give him ten.

  2. sdelmonte - Dec 28, 2011 at 4:54 PM

    Great. I will need a sponge when I leave work today to deal with all the Yankee fans salivating.

    • surefooted1 - Dec 30, 2011 at 10:39 AM

      Pfft…Not with the Yankees acting like they somehow was transported to Boise, Idaho and no longer print money.

  3. Old Gator - Dec 28, 2011 at 5:08 PM

    Maybe Heyman just means that Lincecum is in Seattle and Sabean is in San Francisco?

  4. kyleortonsarm - Dec 28, 2011 at 5:09 PM

    He’s not even worth half of what he thinks he deserves. Cut him loose. No skill. No class. No brain. He’ll wash out of MLB in 3 years, max.

    • Kyle - Dec 28, 2011 at 5:11 PM

      You’re trolling, right?

    • baseballisboring - Dec 28, 2011 at 5:17 PM


    • protius - Dec 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM

      Dude, we’re not talking about Josh Beckett here; we’re talking about Slim Tim Lincecum.

  5. sjsharksfan11 - Dec 28, 2011 at 5:11 PM

    Once he’s a free agent he will leave. Brian Sabean is a jack@ss and can’t fathom keeping a player below the age of 50. If Lincecum were 47, Sabean would have already locked him up to a 10 year deal. I’ve heard rumblings Jesse Orosco is on his radar for a bullpen spot…

  6. granted42 - Dec 28, 2011 at 5:15 PM

    I seem to recall Lincecum said he preferred to go with short, 1-2 year deals instead of being locked up for a long term one. Did someone hide his stash and air out the room?

    • trevorb06 - Dec 28, 2011 at 5:23 PM

      *sigh* If only idiots realized that there are worse things that are legal in this world than a plant essentially made illegal in this country by lobbyists funded by companies such as Dupont.

      • Tim OShenko - Dec 28, 2011 at 7:51 PM

        Weed jokes aside, granted42 has a point. I remember a few months ago Lincecum saying he’d prefer short-term contracts. One has to wonder why he changed his mind.

      • paperlions - Dec 29, 2011 at 1:56 PM

        Is it possible that he meant he prefers short-term deals during his years of team control, but not necessarily once he hits FA?

    • Tribe&Browns&Cavs - Dec 29, 2011 at 7:30 AM

      This was the first thing that came to my mind, too.

      This was Lincecum a whole two months ago:

      “It’s just easier for me mentally not to have to put that kind of pressure on yourself,” he said. “Not that you don’t want to succeed, but when you’re signed to a long-term deal, it’s like saying, ‘I’m going to live up to every expectation.’ That’s why I like going year to year, so I can improve on it and not sit on what I’ve done.”

  7. 78mu - Dec 28, 2011 at 6:41 PM

    Would you rather give ten years to Pujols or TL? Which would you rather pay 26 million a year to?

    If TL stays healthy it’s a no-brainer since few people think Albert will be worth his contract at the end of his contract. But at least he could still contribute even as a mediocre DH.

    But is Lincecum Gary Nolan or Nolan Ryan? Giving any pitcher a long term deal, especially one with Lincecum’s motion, has got to give a GM heart palpitations.

    • Reflex - Dec 29, 2011 at 6:05 AM

      Actually Tim has a pretty good motion with none of the dreaded Inverted W, L or other messed up mechanics that make guys look good when they are young but destroys their elbow and then their shoulder as they put some innings on. He’ll have a far longer and more effective career than guys like Strasburg or Michael Pineda, in fact he may already have more seasons than they’ll get as starters given that they both have already had their elbows go which means they have about 2-3 years before their shoulders follow.

      I wouldn’t hesitate to extend Lincecum. Wish the Mariner’s had taken the hometown boy when they had the chance. Ah well.

  8. echolmberg - Dec 28, 2011 at 6:45 PM

    What you hear off in the distance are the NY writers beating the drum that the Giants MUST trade Lincecum to the Yankees NOW. There is NO way a team not in New York could afford him. It is INEVITABLE that the Yankees will have CC, Felix and Lincecum to head their rotation.

  9. dondada10 - Dec 28, 2011 at 9:23 PM

    Doesn’t help that Sabean got burned on a long term contract to a pitcher already (Zito).

  10. cup0pizza - Dec 28, 2011 at 9:43 PM

    Yellow-tooth Timmy needs that guarantee for more weed and teeth whitening.

    • jimeejohnson - Dec 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM

      Cannabis is what the dopes refer to as weed.

  11. Brian Donohue - Dec 28, 2011 at 9:44 PM

    I’m with Timmeh on this one: that kickass Hawaiian weed ain’t cheap, and you gotta have a Tiffany bong for that stuff. This boils down to politics: if Congress will just legalize the shit, it will be cheaper and Tim could take a couple years off his demands. Till then, though, gotta make sure your head’s cool for a decade at least.

  12. yournuts - Dec 29, 2011 at 11:43 PM

    Tim is a great pitcher. It is to bad he signed that extention with the Giants. He would have been worth 25 million on the open market. He is getting paid about half of what he is worth. You never know if he will have an injury or what the future will hold. I hope that Matt Cain sees the light!

  13. jimeejohnson - Dec 30, 2011 at 9:43 PM

    Why not the Red Sox; they have big bucks, too, and they need a thin, herbalist on their pitching staff so the rest of the guys have enough chicken and cheap beer.

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