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	<title>Comments on: The Giants and Tim Lincecum are far apart in talks for a long term deal</title>
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		<title>By: jimeejohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimeejohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 02:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not the Red Sox; they have big bucks, too, and they need a thin, herbalist on their pitching staff so the rest of the guys have enough chicken and cheap beer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not the Red Sox; they have big bucks, too, and they need a thin, herbalist on their pitching staff so the rest of the guys have enough chicken and cheap beer.</p>
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		<title>By: jimeejohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimeejohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 02:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cannabis is what the dopes refer to as weed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannabis is what the dopes refer to as weed.</p>
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		<title>By: surefooted1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[surefooted1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pfft...Not with the Yankees acting like they somehow was transported to Boise, Idaho and no longer print money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pfft&#8230;Not with the Yankees acting like they somehow was transported to Boise, Idaho and no longer print money.</p>
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		<title>By: yournuts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yournuts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim is a great pitcher. It is to bad he signed that extention with the Giants. He would have been worth 25 million on the open market. He is getting paid about half of what he is worth. You never know if he will have an injury or what the future will hold. I hope that Matt Cain sees the light!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim is a great pitcher. It is to bad he signed that extention with the Giants. He would have been worth 25 million on the open market. He is getting paid about half of what he is worth. You never know if he will have an injury or what the future will hold. I hope that Matt Cain sees the light!</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it possible that he meant he prefers short-term deals during his years of team control, but not necessarily once he hits FA?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that he meant he prefers short-term deals during his years of team control, but not necessarily once he hits FA?</p>
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		<title>By: Tribe&#38;Browns&#38;Cavs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tribe&#38;Browns&#38;Cavs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was the first thing that came to my mind, too.

This was Lincecum a whole two months ago:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;It&#039;s just easier for me mentally not to have to put that kind of pressure on yourself,&quot; he said. &quot;Not that you don&#039;t want to succeed, but when you&#039;re signed to a long-term deal, it&#039;s like saying, &#039;I&#039;m going to live up to every expectation.&#039; That&#039;s why I like going year to year, so I can improve on it and not sit on what I&#039;ve done.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/tim-lincecum-prefers-short-term-deals.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the first thing that came to my mind, too.</p>
<p>This was Lincecum a whole two months ago:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;It&#8217;s just easier for me mentally not to have to put that kind of pressure on yourself,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Not that you don&#8217;t want to succeed, but when you&#8217;re signed to a long-term deal, it&#8217;s like saying, &#8216;I&#8217;m going to live up to every expectation.&#8217; That&#8217;s why I like going year to year, so I can improve on it and not sit on what I&#8217;ve done.&#8221;</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/tim-lincecum-prefers-short-term-deals.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/tim-lincecum-prefers-short-term-deals.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reflex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reflex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Tim has a pretty good motion with none of the dreaded Inverted W, L or other messed up mechanics that make guys look good when they are young but destroys their elbow and then their shoulder as they put some innings on.  He&#039;ll have a far longer and more effective career than guys like Strasburg or Michael Pineda, in fact he may already have more seasons than they&#039;ll get as starters given that they both have already had their elbows go which means they have about 2-3 years before their shoulders follow.

I wouldn&#039;t hesitate to extend Lincecum.  Wish the Mariner&#039;s had taken the hometown boy when they had the chance.  Ah well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Tim has a pretty good motion with none of the dreaded Inverted W, L or other messed up mechanics that make guys look good when they are young but destroys their elbow and then their shoulder as they put some innings on.  He&#8217;ll have a far longer and more effective career than guys like Strasburg or Michael Pineda, in fact he may already have more seasons than they&#8217;ll get as starters given that they both have already had their elbows go which means they have about 2-3 years before their shoulders follow.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to extend Lincecum.  Wish the Mariner&#8217;s had taken the hometown boy when they had the chance.  Ah well.</p>
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		<title>By: protius</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[protius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, we&#039;re not talking about Josh Beckett here; we&#039;re talking about Slim Tim Lincecum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, we&#8217;re not talking about Josh Beckett here; we&#8217;re talking about Slim Tim Lincecum.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Donohue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Donohue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 02:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Timmeh on this one: that kickass Hawaiian weed ain&#039;t cheap, and you gotta have a Tiffany bong for that stuff. This boils down to politics: if Congress will just legalize the shit, it will be cheaper and Tim could take a couple years off his demands. Till then, though, gotta make sure your head&#039;s cool for a decade at least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Timmeh on this one: that kickass Hawaiian weed ain&#8217;t cheap, and you gotta have a Tiffany bong for that stuff. This boils down to politics: if Congress will just legalize the shit, it will be cheaper and Tim could take a couple years off his demands. Till then, though, gotta make sure your head&#8217;s cool for a decade at least.</p>
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		<title>By: cup0pizza</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cup0pizza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 02:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yellow-tooth Timmy needs that guarantee for more weed and teeth whitening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yellow-tooth Timmy needs that guarantee for more weed and teeth whitening.</p>
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		<title>By: dondada10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dondada10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 02:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t help that Sabean got burned on a long term contract to a pitcher already (Zito).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t help that Sabean got burned on a long term contract to a pitcher already (Zito).</p>
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		<title>By: Tim OShenko</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim OShenko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 00:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weed jokes aside, granted42 has a point. I remember a few months ago Lincecum saying he&#039;d prefer short-term contracts. One has to wonder why he changed his mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weed jokes aside, granted42 has a point. I remember a few months ago Lincecum saying he&#8217;d prefer short-term contracts. One has to wonder why he changed his mind.</p>
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		<title>By: echolmberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[echolmberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What you hear off in the distance are the NY writers beating the drum that the Giants MUST trade Lincecum to the Yankees NOW. There is NO way a team not in New York could afford him. It is INEVITABLE that the Yankees will have CC, Felix and Lincecum to head their rotation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you hear off in the distance are the NY writers beating the drum that the Giants MUST trade Lincecum to the Yankees NOW. There is NO way a team not in New York could afford him. It is INEVITABLE that the Yankees will have CC, Felix and Lincecum to head their rotation.</p>
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		<title>By: 78mu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[78mu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you rather give ten years to Pujols or TL?  Which would you rather pay 26 million a year to?

If TL stays healthy it&#039;s a no-brainer since few people think Albert will be worth his contract at the end of his contract. But at least he could still contribute even as a mediocre DH.  

But is Lincecum Gary Nolan or Nolan Ryan?  Giving any pitcher a long term deal, especially one with Lincecum&#039;s motion, has got to give a GM heart palpitations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you rather give ten years to Pujols or TL?  Which would you rather pay 26 million a year to?</p>
<p>If TL stays healthy it&#8217;s a no-brainer since few people think Albert will be worth his contract at the end of his contract. But at least he could still contribute even as a mediocre DH.  </p>
<p>But is Lincecum Gary Nolan or Nolan Ryan?  Giving any pitcher a long term deal, especially one with Lincecum&#8217;s motion, has got to give a GM heart palpitations.</p>
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		<title>By: trevorb06</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trevorb06]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*sigh* If only idiots realized that there are worse things that are legal in this world than a plant essentially made illegal in this country by lobbyists funded by companies such as Dupont.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* If only idiots realized that there are worse things that are legal in this world than a plant essentially made illegal in this country by lobbyists funded by companies such as Dupont.</p>
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		<title>By: baseballisboring</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baseballisboring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yawn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: granted42</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[granted42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I seem to recall Lincecum said he preferred to go with short, 1-2 year deals instead of being locked up for a long term one.  Did someone hide his stash and air out the room?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to recall Lincecum said he preferred to go with short, 1-2 year deals instead of being locked up for a long term one.  Did someone hide his stash and air out the room?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re trolling, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re trolling, right?</p>
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		<title>By: sjsharksfan11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sjsharksfan11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once he&#039;s a free agent he will leave. Brian Sabean is a jack@ss and can&#039;t fathom keeping a player below the age of 50. If Lincecum were 47, Sabean would have already locked him up to a 10 year deal. I&#039;ve heard rumblings Jesse Orosco is on his radar for a bullpen spot...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once he&#8217;s a free agent he will leave. Brian Sabean is a jack@ss and can&#8217;t fathom keeping a player below the age of 50. If Lincecum were 47, Sabean would have already locked him up to a 10 year deal. I&#8217;ve heard rumblings Jesse Orosco is on his radar for a bullpen spot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kyleortonsarm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kyleortonsarm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s not even worth half of what he thinks he deserves. Cut him loose. No skill. No class. No brain. He&#039;ll wash out of MLB in 3 years, max.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not even worth half of what he thinks he deserves. Cut him loose. No skill. No class. No brain. He&#8217;ll wash out of MLB in 3 years, max.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe Heyman just means that Lincecum is in Seattle and Sabean is in San Francisco?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Heyman just means that Lincecum is in Seattle and Sabean is in San Francisco?</p>
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		<title>By: sdelmonte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdelmonte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great.  I will need a sponge when I leave work today to deal with all the Yankee fans salivating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great.  I will need a sponge when I leave work today to deal with all the Yankee fans salivating.</p>
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		<title>By: baseballisboring</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baseballisboring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well...we know Sabean loves to sign middle-aged/declining performers. Does that work with extensions too? Screw it, give him ten.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;we know Sabean loves to sign middle-aged/declining performers. Does that work with extensions too? Screw it, give him ten.</p>
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