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Reds tabled extension talks with Brandon Phillips

Jan 1, 2012, 10:03 AM EDT

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From the Cincinnati Enquirer‘s John Fay comes this update on the Reds’ negotiations toward a contract extension with Brandon Phillips:

The Reds haven’t talked to Phillips’ agents since the winter meetings.

“We decided to table it till January,” [GM Walt] Jocketty said.

Phillips told reporters late last season that he would not be offering the Reds a “homeboy hookup” on a long-term deal, but tweeted a little over a month ago that talks were “moving in the right direction.” He was reportedly made an offer in early December.

The 30-year-old batted .300/.353/.457 with 18 home runs, 38 doubles and 82 RBI in 674 plate appearances this past season for the third-place Reds while playing his usual brand of elite-level defense at second base. If the Cincinnati front office fails to lock him up, Phillips will hit the free agent market next winter.

  1. metalhead65 - Jan 1, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    not to worry fellow reds fans as walt has a backup plan for phillips in ex-washed up card therio who can of course step in right away and replace Phillips and all he brings to the table. get ready for the ever present small market excuse when they either let him walk or deal him before the season. spare me your saber metrics because all I know is phillips is one of the best if not the best second baseman in the game. his numbers would be better if dusty would put him in 1 spot and leave him there. as it was he had to go to him and tell him to put him in the leadoff spot where he immediatly took off and gave the reds the spark they had been looking for at that spot. either leave him there or bat him third where he is most comfotable. yes I know he is 30 but I really do not think he is going to go down hill right away if they sign him to a 3-4 year deal. he will most cetainly put up better numbers in a bad year than any ex-card they bring in to replace him.

    • paperlions - Jan 1, 2012 at 11:35 AM

      Phillips has been the second best 2B in the NL for the last few years (behind Utely), and “sabermetrics” clearly demonstrate that….he is not, however, the best 2B in the game, Kinsler, Pedroia, Zobrist, and Cano have all been a little better and in a better league….but Phillips, by any measure, has been among the top 2B the last 4-5 years. If the Reds lose him, they won’t be able to replace his production.

      • contraryguy - Jan 1, 2012 at 8:21 PM

        There’s a certain something that Sabermetrics doesn’t cover, and that is the fact that in addition to being a productive bat and spectacular glove, BP is a hugely popular player, the kind that puts ‘butts in seats’. Walt and Castellini MUST know this, and they’ll have to get over the traditional Cinci cheapness if they want to keep fans heading to the ballpark. Yes, winning matters, but the Cinci management has irritated fans in the past by letting other popular players go; not resigning BP will not be greeted warmly.

      • JBerardi - Jan 1, 2012 at 10:06 PM

        “There’s a certain something that Sabermetrics doesn’t cover, and that is the fact that in addition to being a productive bat and spectacular glove, BP is a hugely popular player, the kind that puts ‘butts in seats’… Yes, winning matters, but the Cinci management has irritated fans in the past by letting other popular players go; not resigning BP will not be greeted warmly.”

        Sabermetrics covers this. And it says that winning teams are what drive attendance. No one wants to see a last place team, no matter how many hometown favorites play for them.

      • Reflex - Jan 1, 2012 at 11:27 PM

        Uh, presumably Utley, Cano and Kinsler also put ‘butts in seats’. Not sure how you’d quantify that ‘metric’.

  2. redsman78 - Jan 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Guess they’ll do the same to Votto….pure genius. Get rid of all the impact players you have and wonder why you arent a contender year in and out. Kinda thinking most if not all of Reds management rode the short bus to school

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