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Ryan Ludwick has contract offers from at least four teams

Jan 7, 2012, 10:01 AM EDT

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Jon Heyman of reports that Ryan Ludwick has received contract offers from at least four teams. We have seen reports linking him to the Athletics and Reds as recently as this week, although it’s not clear whether any of the offers are from them.

Ludwick, 33, batted .237/.310/.363 with 13 home runs, 75 RBI and a .674 OPS over 139 games between the Padres and Pirates last season.

Ludwick hasn’t enjoyed much success since being traded from the Cardinals to the Padres in July of 2010, but has legitimate power and is well-regarded for his defense. A reunion with Walt Jocketty in Cincinnati would make some sense, as Great American Ballpark would be a great fit for his right-handed bat.

  1. metalhead65 - Jan 7, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    it makes sense in that jocketty has a soft spot for washed up former cardinals who can’t do what they did when they played for cards anymore. renteria and edmonds worked out so well for the reds didn’t they. edmonds production was mostly done with the brewers and he blew out his achillies on a home run trot so don’t tell me he was not washed up. and to top it off he blamed the reds for ending his career! a whiney little cardinal bitch to the end. renteria was just awful and only played because dusty loves his veterans and once janish got hurt had his excuse to play him everyday. so because he will play in gabp he will magicly become the player he once was? yea great idea pay him twice what Heisey makes to put up the same numbers or less in more at bats. wish the reds would play Heisy or trade him to a team that will give him a fair chance. you would think a team that stuck with gomes for almost 2 years of no production would give a young prospect a chance to play full time. don’t give me he can’t hit lefty’s crap,hard to do that when you never play against them and he did alright in the minors against them. the reds moves might make sense if they had added a new manager to go along with them but we are stuck with dusty and his match up strategy. he hit 3 homers last night? to bad can’t play next game because so and so is pitching. and if that new guy they traded away the farm to get had arm problems before he may as well schedule a date with DR. Andrews now that he is pitching for dusty, his arm will fall off by the all star game if he makes it that long.

    • thefalcon123 - Jan 7, 2012 at 10:57 AM

      “edmonds production was mostly done with the brewers and he blew out his achillies on a home run trot so don’t tell me he was not washed up”

      Hmm…, .286/.350/.493 (125 OPS+) with the Brewers when he was traded hardly equals “washed up”. In fact, it might have equaled “best bench bat in baseball” that year. And in an *extremely* small sample of at bats with the Reds, Edmonds slugged .586. Fan Graphs has him worth 2.5 WAR in 2010 in about half a season’s worth of at bats…which is really, really good. Just two quick seconds of research helps red-faced rants make a lot more sense.

      • paperlions - Jan 7, 2012 at 11:14 AM

        Not if you don’t understand what that research tells you….after all, he only hit .207 with the Reds.

      • metalhead65 - Jan 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM

        I am sure it was extremely small considering he played 2 weeks or so before being injured.I could care less about war and other stupid saber metrics. wins above replacements? whatever that means I go by what a guy does not on some stupid made up stats to make it look like he was a better/worse player than he was. what next stats on how a guy performs baseed on playing conditions? you probably already have those like he hits/pitchers better on partly cloudy days and temps between 65-75 degrees and between the hrs. of 5-8 p.m. if not I am sure somebody will come up with one. I am old school when it comes to baseball and have no intrest in learning anything about these new stats so please do not try and explain them, laugh all you want but the game was just fine the way it was before this nonsense. anyway as a reds fan I hate everything about the cardinals and the fact jocketty can’t resist looking at and signing former players long past their prime while ignoring prospects of their own like Heisey.

      • Reflex - Jan 7, 2012 at 10:24 PM

        You had me at “have no intrest in learning anything”. That about sums it up.

  2. cintiphil - Jan 7, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    The problem with guys like meathead, is that they just hate anything Cardinals, TLR, and Walt, because he was ex Cardinal GM. The problem is that he is either too young or too stupid to remember other Cardinal “cast offs” like Tolen and GM Howsam. They did help bring winners to the Reds in the past. Instead he goes off with stupid rants because of his hatred and stupidity. If there is a logical argument against Ludwick, it is that he is getting older and that the price may be too high for a guy with other possible offers. Who knows if he can produce up to previous standards. We have a 182 game season, and the Reds need help in the OF because they only have one every day player (Bruce). Stubbs and Heisey have not proven they can play every day. So, it makes sense to go after a guy like Ludwick to fill in when these young guys hit a wall or go into a slump. Both have had very bad slumps in the past two seasons. I don’t think Ryan is an every day player any longer either.

    • metalhead65 - Jan 7, 2012 at 3:42 PM

      I am not to young to remember tolen or howsam but how old was tolen when he came to the reds? was he over 30 and on the down side of his career? did howsam only sign ex-cards past their prime when he ran the reds?hey if the reds signed one the cards in their pime type of players I would not have a problem with it. but why must he sign guys who are playing for their 3rd- 5th teams since their cardinal hey days? sorry I do not feel stupid for wanting giving a guy like Heisey a chance to play full are players suppse to be ready to play if they are not given the chance? did ludwig sit on the bench for years when he came up with the cards or did he play?stubbs is not ready to play everyday? he strikes out way to much but still put up better numbers than the ex-cards you want them to play ahead of them. it is not his fault dusty kept sending him out there everyday to strukeout 5 tines a game. Heisy can play center to so there was no reason not to give stubbs time off while still playing gomes and lewis in left. I don’t have anything to back up my rants? fine don’t look at the stats you value so much which shows he had more production than any of the ex-cardinals in less at bats. ignore his minor league stats that show he can hit lefties if he faces them more than once a week like dusty plays him. hard to get better if you do not play on a regular basis. and playing veterans like gomes and lewis sure helped the reds overcome that 10 game lead after the all star game didn’t it? yes unlike some people I have passion for my team and not ashamed to admit it grown man or not.I am focused on the players on my team and it is frustrating watching Heisey hit 3 homers in a game then not play for a week after. I hate the cards because they are in the same division as my reds and are whiney bitches when things do not go their way.

    • metalhead65 - Jan 8, 2012 at 2:32 AM

      the problem with having ludwig and guys like him to fill in is once they do fill in they never stop playing no matter how they fill in. all it will take for him or any other veteran player to take over the job is a couple of ofer games by Heisey and dusty will bench him for the season. just look at renteria last year,once janish who had gotten off to a good start got hurt and dusty put him out there he was not leaving the lineup. sure dusty put janish back in for a few games when he came back but he had him batting second! he was doomed to fail and renteria never looked back on his way to the great season he had,finally getting hot in the middle of August after listening to dusty talk about how hot he would get once the weather warmed up.look the reds are my team and I have followed them my whole life, I listen them every game on the radio and watch as many games as I can on tv so I do more than just look at the stats like you people do. I know what I am talking about when it comes to reds baseball so laugh all you want. as for my stance on the new stats my point was the game was fine with the invented stats they had for what a 100 or so years before you fantasy league people invented new ones to tell me that what I see whem I watch the game is not good enough. laugh at me all you want you are the ones without a life not me.

      • Reflex - Jan 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM

        Are you able to read? I pointed out below that Fantasy Baseball relies on the same 100 year old ‘traditional stats’ that you are championing. It does not use a single Sabermetric concept. The traditional 5×5 Fantasy format is:

        Home Runs
        Batting Average
        Stolen Bases


        How is this a sabermetric stat geeks game? Each and every one of those stats is suspect in the Saber world, only traditionlists think those stats offer much insight into how to win the game.

        Seriously, if your going to criticize modern stats, Fantasy Baseball is not an effective way to do so.

  3. cintiphil - Jan 7, 2012 at 11:28 AM


    Stop when you have dug a hole deep enough. Your rants make no sense.

    • paperlions - Jan 7, 2012 at 12:29 PM

      I admit, I love his rants. I already know what he’s going to say….because, you know, I’ve read it so many times before…but they still crack me up.

      Hey, the guy has passion for his team. I respect that.

      Plus, he’s unintentionally funny. Acting like some stats are “stupid made up stats” and other are not….all stats are made up. Does he think that some are “natural stats” that were just lying around waiting to be found? Because that’s what I picture when I read such things….not to mention that pitcher wins, RBI, ERA, saves, and AVG are among the dumbest “made up stats” around.

      • metalhead65 - Jan 7, 2012 at 3:16 PM

        ok you got me I am stupid because stats that were part of the game since it started were made up along with the game. to me and other fans who grew up loving the game they seemed just fine untill fanasy decided to take over the game and decide that hitting certain marks that were good since the invention of the game were not good enough. so now it is not good enogh to hit.300 or hit 30 homers drive in a 100 runs or have an era under 4 no make up stuff to show that is nor as good as it seems. go ahead and suck all the joy out of it I will look at it the way I always have. make fun of me all you want if it makes you feel so superior to me.

      • paperlions - Jan 7, 2012 at 3:28 PM

        Actually, what took over was a scientific approach to understanding baseball, by some fans and by many front offices. As in many disciplines, with the monstrous leaps in computing technology, and the ability to glean so much data from MLB archives (including video of every game), there was much more information available for people to study the game and what contributes to winning games.

        Also, there were no stats invented along with the game…all of those stats were just “made up” by someone along the way…preferring old stats to new ones is like preferring a curveball over a splitter or cutter because it was invented long before the others.

        Many of the old favorites are have some pretty dumb aspects in them if you bother to ask what they are supposed to measure instead of accepting them without question.

      • Reflex - Jan 7, 2012 at 10:28 PM

        Fantasy baseball relies on the traditional stats metalhead loves. I have no idea why people keep repeating the idea that fantasy baseball players are sabermetrics lovers. They are not, all traditional fantasy formats, which are by far the most popular formats, rely on traditional status like RBI’s, Runs, Wins, Saves, etc.

        Fantasy baseball has existed since the 70’s and is as old school as it comes stat wise.

      • cintiphil - Jan 9, 2012 at 1:10 PM

        OK listen up here:

        The meatball is no bigger fan of the Reds than I. I just don’t believe3 any other team is EVIL, and the REDS are all good. Everyone wants to win. Some do and some are also-rans. It just happens that most teams can only be also run types. It is the job of the GM and field manager to get the best players on the filed and try to win. Just because the Cardinals are better than the Reds this year, doesn’t mean it will always be that way. The Yankees owned the Bosox in the past, but now Boston has caught up and doing much better. In the 70’s and 80’s the Reds were as good as other teams, ending with the 90’s Reds great teams. After Marge gave the helm to her friend Ray, and kicked sweet Lou to the curb, this team has done very little. Now they have a sub par manager, and some holes in the lineup, they are going to have a hard time to compete. But, meatball doesn’t believe that, rather he just loves to hate the Cards for winning. I wish we had their team. The manger, I don’t know if he can cut it or not.

  4. themanchine - Jan 7, 2012 at 3:55 PM


    Do you think Wins is an accurate measure of how good/bad a pitcher is?

    • metalhead65 - Jan 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

      I think that and era are pretty good measure.

      • Reflex - Jan 7, 2012 at 10:29 PM

        Why are wins an accurate measure?

  5. tashkalucy - Jan 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    It appears he’s washed up, so the Indians will be after him.

    They always sign washed up guys for a few million dollars because, “they’re good in the locker room.”

  6. firemarshal1 - Jan 7, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    Signing Ryan Ludwick would be an excellent depth/bench signing for the Reds. A good right hand bat with power along good defensive skills. Heisy will start in LF, if he doesn’t fall flat on his face. Ludwick brings a veteran presents to the team that was sorely lacking last year.

  7. rcpj22 - Jan 8, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    It would be nice to see the Giants get involved in signing Ludwick, but at “only” 33 years old he’s way too young for Sabean to consider!

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