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Hal Steinbrenner met with Scott Boras about Edwin Jackson

Jan 12, 2012, 9:17 AM EDT

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Edwin Jackson apparently wants five years at $15 million per.  No one really wants to pay that. Including the Yankees, who have — to the surprise of many — decided to actually operate like a business as opposed to Richard Pryor in “Brewster’s Millions” this offseason.  Imagine.

But the fact is that the Yankees could use a starter and Jackson — maybe realizing that his price is a bit high — kinda needs a baseball team to hire him.  So it’s not terribly surprising, then, that Scott Boras met with Hal Steinbrenner recently to discuss E-Jax, which he will regrettably be called a lot more often if he does sign with the Yankees.

No matter what the rate, it’s going to be hard for any team — and any fan base — to swallow Jackson on a long term deal.  There’s a reason he has floated from team to team.  It’s not because of his talent, which is considerable.  When he’s on he’s electric. But he’s not always on. He’s erratic and when he’s bad he’s really hard to watch and it just depresses the living hell out of you.  I’d love for him to put it all together and go on a nice 4-5 year run of superior pitching, but I have a hard time seeing that now.

But he will sign someplace. If the Yankees and Boras are talking, it may be in New York. And, hopefully, it will be at a much more reasonable rate than the last one we heard he was demanding.

  1. uyf1950 - Jan 12, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    If it were my money I would think long and hard about signing him for anything more then 2 years. Especially in the case of the Yankees who have expressed a desire to get at or below the $189MM luxury tax threshold for 2014. I would much prefer the Yankees sign Kuroda or Oswalt to a 1 year deal then see who of the FA class of 2013 actually hits the market. As of today there are 3 possible FA in that class (Hamels, Cain and Greinke) that are heads and shoulders above Jackson and at least 2 Anibal Sanchez and Marcum that are better than him as well. At least a couple of these 5 have should still be available about 9 months from now, possibly all of them.

    Jackson would certainly be any upgrade to the current planned rotation of: CC, Nova, Garcia, AJ and Hughes. But not a sufficient enough upgrade to sign at any price or cost. Besides, the Yankees have several “prospects” like Noesi, Phelps, Warren not to mention the 2 Killer “B’s just waiting in the wings for a chance. That would be a better option then signing Jackson to a long term deal.

    Well in any case I’m sure we’ll find out something as to the Yankees real interest soon enough.

    • pisano - Jan 12, 2012 at 9:57 AM

      uyf1950…I couldn’t agree more. Jackson is a big hard throwing guy, but command has always been his problem, and when you already have a guy like AJ in your rotation can they afford to have two starters that may lose command at any time?

    • proudlycanadian - Jan 12, 2012 at 9:58 AM

      One year with a team option for a second year makes sense to me.

    • yankeesgameday - Jan 12, 2012 at 9:58 AM

      Nah, Jackson isn’t an upgrade, he’s a push for everyone in that rotation but cc.

    • dan1111 - Jan 12, 2012 at 10:12 AM

      Jackson’s ERA looked nice last year, but his peripheral stats weren’t so pretty.

  2. churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    [last 3 years[
    Pitcher A – 2.6BB/9, 8.0K/9
    Pitcher B – 3.0BB/9, 7.0K/9

    difference between the two over 200 IP is 9 walks and 20 strike outs. Pitcher A = CC and B = Jackson. Jackson is hurt by his first few years and the huge discrepancy between IP*. He’s a good pitcher and he’s only 27. Would i give him $20M a year? Hell no. But he’s not the scrub some people are making him out to be.

    *CC is a horse who throws 240-250IP a year. Jackson has made 32 starts in 5 consecutive years, but it only amounts to about 200IP.

    • uyf1950 - Jan 12, 2012 at 10:47 AM

      Don’t know about him being a “scrub”. But for Boras himself to compare Jackson to Lackey “The Slacker” and AJ “The Headcase” as he recently did even Boras can’t think to much of him.

  3. aceshigh11 - Jan 12, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    A Brewster’s Millions reference…NICE.

  4. deathmonkey41 - Jan 12, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Does it worry anyone except for me that he’s meeting with Hal instead of Cashman? Wasn’t Hal behind the Soriano masterpiece?

    • uyf1950 - Jan 12, 2012 at 12:11 PM

      No, it was Levine. Besides it sounds like Boras requested the meeting with Hal at the owners meeting. While he was there to talk to the Nationals about Fielder.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jan 12, 2012 at 1:47 PM

        This is from mlbtraderumors:

        WEDNESDAY: It was one year ago this month that Yankees managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner and agent Scott Boras worked out the deal that brought Rafael Soriano to the Bronx against GM Brian Cashman’s better judgment. Jon Heyman of reports that Steinbrenner and Boras met again to discuss another free agent pitcher: Edwin Jackson. Steinbrenner told the agent he’ll think about offering Jackson a deal.

      • uyf1950 - Jan 12, 2012 at 2:19 PM

        deathmonkey – Hal probably had the final say as he should have I have no doubt. But I believe it was at the insistence of Levine and based on the recommendation of Rivera that the deal happened.

        Here are 2 quotes from the dated Jan. 19, 2011. Here is the link for the full article.

        “Soriano said through an interpreter. His relationship with Rivera helped forge a deal”.


        “Agent Scott Boras, who negotiated the contract with club president Randy Levine and Steinbrenner…”

        Regardless of who did what and when that contract is as they say “history”.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jan 12, 2012 at 3:40 PM

        Yeah, I guess it’s Steinbrenner’s moola so he’s going to have final say. I just hope he doesn’t become his father of the late 80’s early 90’s.

  5. bigharold - Jan 12, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    “When he’s on he’s electric.”

    Why is that every pitcher that can throw hard and command issues has “electric stuff”?

    They already have a guy like this, .. Burnett. I’d pass if I’m calling the shots.

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