Comments on: Red Sox avoid arbitration with Daniel Bard at $1.6125M http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Thu, 23 May 2013 07:58:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: baseballisboring http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250576 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:41:58 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250576 Doesn’t take a doctor or even an orderly to determine that you are a prime example of fetal alcohol syndrome.

]]> By: bozosforall http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250471 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:46:45 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250471 A haul of prospects? For a guy who is a proven choker? Boston fans are delusional as usual.

]]> By: bozosforall http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250468 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:45:10 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250468 A doctor? You couldn’t even be an orderly, retahd.

]]> By: uyf1950 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250447 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:43:54 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250447 Not sure if you are aware of it but Bard is a “Super 2″ he doesn’t become a FA until the 2016 season. If the Sox trade him say at the 2012 trade deadline that still gives whoever the acquiring team is 3 plus years of team control.

And if he doesn’t stick as a starter with the Sox would make him expendable at the deadline in my opinion with Melancon and Bailey in camp,

]]> By: baseballisboring http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250446 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:22:24 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250446 I think it’s called brain-dead-itis, but I’m no doctor.

]]> By: baseballisboring http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250445 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:20:43 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250445 He doesn’t need to toughen up mentally, he got worn down.

]]> By: xavier46 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250438 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 06:19:53 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250438 While I agree that trading Bard is a plausible idea and would bring a haul of prospects or could be used in a John Danks trade, I think your second point answers your question. If the Sox were thinking of dealing him, they would have pushed for a longer deal. A Daniel Bard who is traded near the deadline with a couple months left on a deal is worth significantly less than a Daniel Bard with 1.5 or 2.5 years left on a deal at a hell of a price.

]]> By: uyf1950 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250378 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:22:29 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250378 I have a comment in general about Bard and his future with the Red Sox.

Has anyone thought or even considered that after this season the Red Sox will be looking to trade Bard? Here are a couple of reason why that thought has crept into my mind:
1st) At least to me it doesn’t appear that the Red Sox have a lot of confidence in Bard sticking as a starter. Since they traded their starting SS and are apparently in “hot” pursuit of a starter be it Oswalt, or if they pursue Jackson or whoever.
2nd) Why not during this period between offering arbitration and exchanging figures weren’t the 2 sides able to work out a 2 year deal? That’s certainly not long team which I realize the Sox are reticent to extend to relief pitchers.
3rd) The Red Sox as best I can tell at least it would appear seem to think Melancon and Bailey are the “guys” for the 8th and 9th innings going forward. Both are under team control for several more years. Much longer than Bard.

All that just make me think Bard is a short timer for the Red Sox.

]]> By: uyf1950 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250375 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:09:45 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250375 cur68 – as a member of that jury I concur with that verdict 110%.

]]> By: cur68 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250300 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:14:20 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250300 Becket was pretty good last season. He’s always good in odd # years and mediocre in even. That’s the juries verdict, anyways.

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250254 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:34:51 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250254 Lester you are correct about. Buchholz is a walking ER and the Jury is still out on Backett

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250253 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:33:46 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250253 You want the full list or just the top ten?

]]> By: Jack Marshall http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250251 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 07:41:07 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250251 What’s your problem?

]]> By: aceshigh11 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250250 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 07:30:38 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250250 Don’t have ANY pitching?

That’s a serious understatement. Despite EVERYTHING that happened last year, Beckett, Lester and Buchholz are all top-notch pitchers who are capable of excellence.

]]> By: randygnyc http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250246 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:37:51 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250246 Forget about the minutiae of his role. What’s important is they have a very young, extremely talented arm for one and a half million bucks. Because the RS don’t have any pitching, this guy will have the real opportunity to succeed at multiple roles this year as starter, closer and late inning relief (this is where I see him blossoming).

]]> By: bozosforall http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250238 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 04:18:04 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250238 Either way, he will still suck as a starter…or a closer.

]]> By: aceshigh11 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/21/red-sox-avoid-arbitration-with-daniel-bard-at-1-6125m/comment-page-1/#comment-250233 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 04:03:01 +0000 http://nbchardballtalk.wordpress.com/?p=107571#comment-250233 What a steal…even with his late-year meltdown, he’s a young stud pitcher and will hopefully toughen up mentally.

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