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	<title>Comments on: UPDATE: Tim Lincecum signs a two-year, $40.5 million deal with the Giants</title>
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		<title>By: ftbramwell</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WAR is not a real stat! And why do we care about FIP? It&#039;s just not a better statistic than E.R.A., which determines how many earned runs a pitcher actually gives up! (Although to tell you the truth, WHIP is just as effective.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAR is not a real stat! And why do we care about FIP? It&#8217;s just not a better statistic than E.R.A., which determines how many earned runs a pitcher actually gives up! (Although to tell you the truth, WHIP is just as effective.)</p>
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		<title>By: rap49er</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If he could only run back punts!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he could only run back punts!!!</p>
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		<title>By: APBA Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[APBA Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smiles all over town today upon this news being released. Amazing how soon the 49&#039;ers loss has been internalized as a &quot;great year&quot; and this news about Timmy is so well received.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smiles all over town today upon this news being released. Amazing how soon the 49&#8242;ers loss has been internalized as a &#8220;great year&#8221; and this news about Timmy is so well received.</p>
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		<title>By: WhenMattStairsIsKing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhenMattStairsIsKing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great town, great fans - though yeah, they sort of kind of need offense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great town, great fans &#8211; though yeah, they sort of kind of need offense.</p>
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		<title>By: WhenMattStairsIsKing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhenMattStairsIsKing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And WAR since 2009, and his xFIP and walk numbers are going up.  I think he&#039;ll regress into a #2 starter at best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And WAR since 2009, and his xFIP and walk numbers are going up.  I think he&#8217;ll regress into a #2 starter at best.</p>
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		<title>By: SOBEIT</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lincecum and his agent made it pretty clear they are looking for only 2 types of contract deals:  a 1 or 2 year deal...like we see today.  Or a 7-8yr deal...which we can guess would range between $150-$190M.  The Giants offered a 5/100 package and his agent rejected the offer.  So the next best thing is a 2 year deal.  After the Zito debacle in both years and contract value, you can understand how the Giants might be a little hesitant to offer another mega deal.  A large deal taking Lincecum to his late 30&#039;s is just too risky.  

I think the Giants close this deal...then watch to see when to pull the trigger and trade him.  Then they trade him and keep Cain.  The numbers just don&#039;t add up to keep both Cain and Lincecum even after Zito, Rowand and Huff come off the books, the ballpark mortgage is paid off (2015 I believe) and any number of other factors the Giants create to increase annual revenues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lincecum and his agent made it pretty clear they are looking for only 2 types of contract deals:  a 1 or 2 year deal&#8230;like we see today.  Or a 7-8yr deal&#8230;which we can guess would range between $150-$190M.  The Giants offered a 5/100 package and his agent rejected the offer.  So the next best thing is a 2 year deal.  After the Zito debacle in both years and contract value, you can understand how the Giants might be a little hesitant to offer another mega deal.  A large deal taking Lincecum to his late 30&#8242;s is just too risky.  </p>
<p>I think the Giants close this deal&#8230;then watch to see when to pull the trigger and trade him.  Then they trade him and keep Cain.  The numbers just don&#8217;t add up to keep both Cain and Lincecum even after Zito, Rowand and Huff come off the books, the ballpark mortgage is paid off (2015 I believe) and any number of other factors the Giants create to increase annual revenues.</p>
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		<title>By: buffalomafia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buffalomafia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would he want to stay with a team that doesn&#039;t get more help?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would he want to stay with a team that doesn&#8217;t get more help?</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lincecum is with Beverly Hills/Rick Thurman. Thurman&#039;s other big name client is Hunter Pence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lincecum is with Beverly Hills/Rick Thurman. Thurman&#8217;s other big name client is Hunter Pence.</p>
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		<title>By: bloodysock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bloodysock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lincecum&#039;s agent is Rick Thurman of Beverly Hills Sports Council]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lincecum&#8217;s agent is Rick Thurman of Beverly Hills Sports Council</p>
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		<title>By: bloodysock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bloodysock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A 10 year deal for a pitcher that will turn 30 during the season following free agency? I don&#039;t see it happening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 10 year deal for a pitcher that will turn 30 during the season following free agency? I don&#8217;t see it happening.</p>
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		<title>By: dcfan4life</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont get it, 2 years. I know he wanted at least an 8 year deal but 2. At least take the 5 year deal, and when that expires he is only what, 32? Pujols just got an insane deal at that age. Now you risk injury and if its a bad injury your stuck doing another 2 year deal at best. And you lose potentially $100 million. Is this another Scott Boras client, please say yes so he looks worse and worse with every player signed, or not signed, this offseason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont get it, 2 years. I know he wanted at least an 8 year deal but 2. At least take the 5 year deal, and when that expires he is only what, 32? Pujols just got an insane deal at that age. Now you risk injury and if its a bad injury your stuck doing another 2 year deal at best. And you lose potentially $100 million. Is this another Scott Boras client, please say yes so he looks worse and worse with every player signed, or not signed, this offseason.</p>
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		<title>By: test2402</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a lot of sticky icky.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a lot of sticky icky.</p>
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		<title>By: sonoco</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sonoco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So his deal and Zito&#039;s deal expire after 2013.  Which one will they try to extend?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So his deal and Zito&#8217;s deal expire after 2013.  Which one will they try to extend?</p>
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		<title>By: randygnyc</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, he turned down 5yrs 100 million yesterday.  I figured that&#039;s 80-100 million less than he wants.  He&#039;ll slum it for the next 2 years until he he hits FA and gets his 10 year deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he turned down 5yrs 100 million yesterday.  I figured that&#8217;s 80-100 million less than he wants.  He&#8217;ll slum it for the next 2 years until he he hits FA and gets his 10 year deal.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsdrenched.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sportsdrenched.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s kind of good at baseball]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s kind of good at baseball</p>
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		<title>By: 1943mrmojorisin1971</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1943mrmojorisin1971]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good deal. Other than his K&#039;s declining each year he&#039;s been pretty consistent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good deal. Other than his K&#8217;s declining each year he&#8217;s been pretty consistent.</p>
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		<title>By: phukyouk</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just in time for that Salary Cap thing..... whatever new contract he gets in 2014 will be backloaded a bit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in time for that Salary Cap thing&#8230;.. whatever new contract he gets in 2014 will be backloaded a bit</p>
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