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Phillies sign Juan Pierre to minor-league contract

Jan 27, 2012, 10:18 AM EDT

Juan Pierre

UPDATE: It’s a done deal.

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Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com reports that Philadelphia has had “serious discussions” with Juan Pierre, which might frighten Phillies fans if not for the fact that he says they talked about a minor-league deal.

Pierre has been an everyday player for the past decade and got 711 plate appearances for the White Sox last season, but he hit just .279 with a .329 on-base percentage and .327 slugging percentage, posting a sub-.700 OPS for the fourth time in five years.

He remains an asset defensively in left field, but is no longer one in center field and was thrown out on 17 of 44 steal attempts, so presumably every team has realized that Pierre is no longer a starting-caliber player. In a bench role, however, he could still bring some positive value to the table.

Of course, Domonic Brown may feel differently.

  1. seanmk - Jan 27, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    he’d be a decent place holder in left, and a good bench bat/4th outfielder. so long as they don’t bat him high up in the order i’d have no problem with it. just bat him 7th.

    • greymares - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:32 AM

      that would make 4 guys who should hit 7th Rollins,Polanco,Ruiz and Pierre

      • sasquash20 - Jan 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM

        A healthy Polanco can still hit. But at his age who knows if he will ever be healthy.

  2. nategearhart - Jan 27, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Everybody should have at least one irrational favorite player, and mine is Juan Pierre. I can’t explain it – he’s not great or anything, and he never even played for a team I remotely care about (except I hate the White Sox). But I think he’s fun to watch.
    Maybe it’s because he’s a better David Eckstein than David Eckstein, and he gets no gushing for his Keebler Elf powers.
    Look here. The last graph may be my favorite. They ALMOST alternate perfectly. Based on this, I expect Pierre to be much better next year, and then nosedive in 2013.
    http://www.fangraphs.com/graphsw.aspx?players=443,10

    • tuloisgod - Jan 27, 2012 at 1:02 PM

      JP has always been easy to root for. The guy hustles on every play, works on his weaknesses and appreciates where he is. He’s never been great, but it hasn’t been for lack of effort or attitude. Didn’t Ozzie say last year that he’d “take a whole team of Juan Pierres?” (Of course, that’d be stupid. I mean, who would pitch?)

  3. illcomm - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    This would be a great move by the phils. Perfect leadoff combo with him and rollins. Rollins had a .350 plus obp last year versus righties and Pierre had a .430 obp versus lefties.

    • seanmk - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:24 AM

      lol that’s really weird. since 2008 his obp vs lefties is .388 .414 .390 .430. prior to that his highest was .361 in 2004. A..398 OBP in 577 PA since 2008. don’t know what to make of that really.

    • seanmk - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:34 AM

      also on rollins. that .350 on base is for 2011 only. the year before he had a .368 vs lefties and a .297 vs righties. that platoon doesn’t take much into account for history of rollins. bottom line is he should not be leading off. pride trumps all though

      • phillyphreak - Jan 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM

        But how much would the “platoon” matter with Rollins and Pierre? In the original scenario by illcomm, they would both play everyday so they’d both still be facing lefties and righties. Even if you swap them in the leadoff position they still would hit somewhere else. Not to mention they play different positions defensively which, at least mostly, mitigates the value of a platoon.

        The proper platoon comparison would be Pierre vs other left field candidates.

  4. dbick - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    sweet. another old player who’s past his prime while dom brown just wastes in AAA.

    • sasquash20 - Jan 27, 2012 at 3:44 PM

      D.Brown hasn’t shown anything in the big show except that maybe we should have traded him. He isn’t a good fielder, not a good hitter, and his base running leaves a lot to be desired.

  5. illcomm - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    I agree that the phils need a new young true leadoff hitter, but that wing be this year. If rollins is out at all, at least Pierre could be there full time. The only other option we have is Victorino and he is a good two hole hitter, not a leadoff guy at all.

  6. Old Gator - Jan 27, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Oh, there he is. Hiya, Peanut Head. What’s up?

  7. illcomm - Jan 27, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    I never said they would play everyday. Rollins could leadoff on right handed days and Pierre on left handed days. Rollins is of course the everyday player. Pierre won’t be.

  8. illcomm - Jan 27, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    plus I am platooning the leadoff spot, not left field. The phils are an ageing team and like the last few years, I’m sure we will have our fair share of 15 day DL stints.

    • phillyphreak - Jan 27, 2012 at 12:52 PM

      But doesn’t that imply that Pierre only play against lefties? His OBP against righties last year was sub-300. And if he is to only play against lefties then his platoon spot would be in left field. Moving around the batting order isn’t really platooning (at least in how I am familiar with the term).

      Look, it’s a minor league deal and it doesn’t matter to me in the least. He could still have some value to a team I suppose. But you’re argument/scenario writes him onto the ML roster and with signification playing time. Which could turnout to be the case. But maybe not. More importantly (and less wonderfully), now Dom Brown is further buried in LF purgatory.

  9. illcomm - Jan 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    True. platoon is meant for defensive term of same position. Not sure what a correct term would be, but you get the idea.

  10. Jonny 5 - Jan 27, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    Just a bench player fellas, no need to get all feisty.

    • phillyphreak - Jan 27, 2012 at 1:08 PM

      Wanna make somethin of it….???

      • Jonny 5 - Jan 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM

        Hopefully Pierre does and becomes useful for us. ;)

    • Utley's Hair - Jan 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

      Yeah, Jonny!! Go eat some cake.

      • Jonny 5 - Jan 27, 2012 at 2:36 PM

        Sure Marie Antoinette, but I’d sooner eat pie.

      • firedude7160 - Jan 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM

        It is National Chocolate Cake Day, so Utley’s Hair may be on to something

      • Utley's Hair - Jan 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM

        Mmmm…chocolate caaaaaake…

      • cur68 - Jan 27, 2012 at 3:04 PM

        National Chocolate Cake Day? For real? Man, I hope so. Cake deserves to be honored for its wholesome goodness, top to bottom consistency, and its unmatched ability to be formed into nearly any shape a man can dream of. Mmmmm, caaaaaaake……

      • Jonny 5 - Jan 27, 2012 at 3:20 PM

        You asked for it cur.

        http://media.cakecentral.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/44966/600-poopcake.jpg

      • firedude7160 - Jan 27, 2012 at 3:43 PM

        hahaha that is disgustingly awesome

      • cur68 - Jan 27, 2012 at 4:16 PM

        That was disgusting J5. May you suffer. In reply, allow me to provide this slightly SFW pic:

        http://www.flickr.com/photos/customcakesbyhope/4722524675/

        Keep in mind I found HUNDREDS of these cakes, but few passed the SFW acid test, though almost all were AWESOME. I’d have replied much sooner but I was looking at a lot of naked-lady cakes…for purposes of accuracy, of course, not just because they were AWESOME!

      • Utley's Hair - Jan 27, 2012 at 4:16 PM

        You know what they never have, and for good reason? National warm ketchup day.

      • Jonny 5 - Jan 29, 2012 at 8:24 AM

        LOL!!!!

  11. paperlions - Jan 27, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    Sooooooooooo…..’cepts got himself banned again?

    • cur68 - Jan 27, 2012 at 3:07 PM

      Looks like it. There should be warning that comes with your Word Press account: Too much drunk, obnoxious posting will cause the blog-master to e-kick you in the virtual rear, right off the comments section.

  12. jwbiii - Jan 27, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    Seems like an odd signing to me. Left handed hitter. Fast, but doesn’t steal bases at a great rate or play a good left field. No arm. Contact hitter, no power or walks.

    Was the first name that came to mind Juan Pierre or Scott Podsednik? They’re both ticketed to Allentown.

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