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UPDATE: No deal yet between Cardinals and Roy Oswalt

Jan 28, 2012, 8:31 AM EDT

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UPDATE: Oswalt’s agent, Bob Garber, told Tim Dierkes of MLB Trade Rumors this morning that there’s “no chance” of his client pitching out of the bullpen.

8:31 AM: Hold your horses, everyone. When most of us went to bed, it appeared as though Roy Oswalt was St. Louis-bound. That may still be the case, but Gordon Edes of has backtracked a bit from his previous report. He calls a deal likely to happen “soon” and was told by a source that it’s “not 100 percent” yet.

Meanwhile, Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that the Cardinals are insisting that no deal is in place with Oswalt. Any deal would be contingent upon a physical and the veteran right-hander has a history of back problems, so it’s possible some formalities are standing in the way of an official agreement. For now, we wait.

1:09 AM: Gordon Edes of reports that Roy Oswalt is headed to the Cardinals. No word yet on the terms of the contract.

8:36 PM, Friday: Jim Duquette of MLB Network Radio on Sirius XM reports that the Cardinals and Roy Oswalt are close to agreeing on a contract. Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald confirms Duquette’s report, but adds that the process may take “another day or two.”

No word on the specific terms being discussed, but Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported earlier this week that the Cardinals made an offer to Oswalt a few weeks ago “approaching $5 million.” Strauss didn’t think that would be enough to get it done and even pegged the Rangers as the favorites.

As for Duquette, he hears that the Red Sox, Astros and Rangers remain in the mix. The Astros are a bit of a head-scratcher given that they haven’t been mentioned until this point and aren’t anywhere close to contending, but perhaps Oswalt gave some thought to going back to where it all started.

Of course, the interesting part of a potential match with the Cardinals is that they already have five starters and Kyle Lohse and Jake Westbrook have full no-trade clauses in their respective contracts. By the way, Lohse will make $11.57 million in 2012 while Westbrook is owed $8.5 million this season and a $1 million buyout on his $8.5 million mutual option for 2013. Oswalt has the potential to make them better, obviously, but that could be a messy situation.

  1. phillieschamps2012 - Jan 27, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    Roy Oswalt, traitor!

  2. ultimatecardinalwarrior - Jan 27, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    Anything so that Westbrook doesn’t have to pitch. He will probably waive his no-trade clause if he gets shifted to the bullpen.

    • dpvaughn - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:02 PM

      While I myself am not a huge fan of Westbrook, we as Cardinals fans have to give him credit. With Game 6 getting all wrapped up in Freese’s heroics, most people don’t remember Westbrook coming in and shutting the door on the Rangers and getting the win in that crucial game.

  3. Ari Collins - Jan 27, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    Usually “close” means no one else is “in the mix.” How close can it be if he’s still considering offers from multiple teams? Weird report.

  4. chelsea0611 - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    So we turn Jackson lose to get Oswalt but we keep Westbrook? Something just isnt right. Im think Cardinals management is racist.

    • salvomania - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:11 PM

      Westbrook was already under contract for 2012—Jackson wasn’t—so the Cardinals can’t “turn Westbrook loose.”

      They COULD sign Jackson for $10M a year for several years, or sign Oswalt for $5-$7M + incentives for one year. Tough choice….

    • cptnew1 - Jan 28, 2012 at 4:06 AM

      I was going to go on a rant to this comment, not worth the effort. Chelsea, grow up.

    • joshh212 - Jan 28, 2012 at 4:49 AM

      I mean, i have read some misguided, clueless statements in my life, but this might just take the cake.

    • Charles Gates - Jan 28, 2012 at 9:54 AM

      As in the Cardinals management does not get along with, and has a predisposition towards, the playoff race? That race, right?

  5. uyf1950 - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:18 PM

    So the Astro’s are the mystery team in this deal. Who would have thought it.

    A little surprised that the Cardinals appear to be in the lead. Thought the Rangers would have the inside track.

  6. craigsimsrules - Jan 27, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    Nothing wrong with having oswalt as your number 4 starter. And letting westbrook and lohse fight for the number 5 spot. While oswalt’s best days are way behind him, he is still better than what we have at that spot in the rotation. I applaud the cards for making a move like this.

  7. spudchukar - Jan 28, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    Wow! My prayers are almost answered. If this comes to fruition my compliments to the management. And it has been awhile since I have said that.

  8. muckthefets23 - Jan 28, 2012 at 1:17 AM

    Looks like you got your wish spud, Roy is still a hell of a pitcher when healthy.

    • spudchukar - Jan 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM

      Not to sound greedy, but if they have another mil or so, I wouldn’t mind seeing them offer Brandon Webb a Minor League deal.

  9. paperlions - Jan 28, 2012 at 1:18 AM


  10. muckthefets23 - Jan 28, 2012 at 1:33 AM

    Weren’t people muttering not too long ago that with Pujols out of the picture and Prince out also that the Reds were just gonna run away with that division?? It doesn’t look that way from where I’m standing.

  11. uyf1950 - Jan 28, 2012 at 4:29 AM

    I guess if true the Red Sox if they intend to sign a known starter are down to just 2 names that they have been linked to over the past few days or weeks (Gavin Floyd or Edwin Jackson).

    Gavin Floyd, if they are able to wrestle him away from the White Sox will cost them prospects and $7MM in payroll (but only $3,875MM as charged by MLB AAV against the Luxury Tax Threshold). Assuming the Red Sox do NOT pick up the $9MM team option. IF they do pick up the option the charge against their Luxury Tax number will be $4.9MM not $3.875.

    Edwin Jackson on the other hand as a free agent will NOT cost the Red Sox any prospects. But on a 1 year deal should Jackson/Boras accept a 1 year deal would probably cost about $10MM +/- (in my opinion).

    There are advantages and disadvantages to either or pitcher. The Red Sox could always choose to stand pat and go to spring training with what they have. But that might be risky.

    Getting back to Oswalt and the Cardinals. I think it’s a good move for the Cardinals, they would be getting a very good pitcher baring any back issues cropping up at more than a reasonable cost.

  12. stlfan - Jan 28, 2012 at 8:18 AM

    Good move. I wouldn’t label Westbrook, Loshe or Oswalt in any particular “starter” order, as I don’t think any of the three are year-long starters. I think the could, and should, be willing to split time as starters and bullpen. This is where Dave Duncan will be missed….

    • paperlions - Jan 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM

      If Oswalt’s is healthy, he is clearly the #4. He was still a very good pitcher last year. It isn’t like he has had long-term back issues to date; from 2004 to 2010 he made at least 30 starts/year and threw over 200 innings all but one year. Lohse is clearly #5. When healthy (2008 and 2011), he has been a fine starter…the forearm injury from being hit by a pitch in 2009 screwed him up that year and for 2010….back healthy last year, he pitched better than Westbrook has ever pitched.

      • dwrek5 - Jan 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM

        I think what he is trying to say, or at least what I am going to say is, as you know every team will need at least 6 starters this year. The challenge will be to find a way to hold onto all 3 until that need arises.

  13. leftywildcat - Jan 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Maybe, just maybe, RAJ the Ninja is just letting him test the market as he did earlier with JRoll? I sure hope so.

  14. uberdepressedbrownsredsfan - Jan 28, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Don’t think Roy is close to what he was but that being said he is a hell of a #4 starter…….damnit

  15. proudlycanadian - Jan 28, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    According to Heyman, he turned down a $10 million 1 year deal with the Tigers. The gentleman is being very picky with regard to which team he plays for.

    • paperlions - Jan 28, 2012 at 12:51 PM

      Kudos to Roy (and any other player) that realizes that once you have all the money you will ever need (likely hundreds of times more than that), you don’t have to chase the highest contract anymore…rather, you can do the things you want to do…including, playing where you want to play.

      • dwrek5 - Jan 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

        True, but it is interesting he wouldn’t want to pitch in Detroit. Yes defense is a question, but they will be competitive, nice park to pitch in, veteran manager… doesn’t seem like the worst place in the world to pitch this season.

      • proudlycanadian - Jan 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM

        He apparently wants to pitch for a team close to his home.

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