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The Red Sox are “most likely out of the picture” for Edwin Jackson

Feb 1, 2012, 2:00 PM EDT

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Gordon Edes of ESPN Boston reports that the Red Sox are “most likely out of the picture” for Edwin Jackson.  He reports that there are better deals on the table from other clubs.

Who knows where he’ll go at this point. If, as some are suspecting, Jackson is going to settle for a one-year deal, he may prefer a deal in a pitchers’ park to help his numbers for next year’s return to free agency.  If he’s just going to take the best offer possible, perhaps that three-four year deal that the Orioles were rumored to have offered him is still out there.

Query: is Edwin Jackson important enough in the grand scheme of things to warrant Mystery Team consideration?  I sort of feel like he isn’t.

  1. WhenMattStairsIsKing - Feb 1, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    He definitely isn’t. You never know which Edwin you’re going to get out there. Pathetic he was once traded for Daniel Hudson.

  2. cur68 - Feb 1, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    “Query: is Edwin Jackson important enough in the grand scheme of things to warrant Mystery Team consideration? I sort of feel like he isn’t.”
    Well, I sort of feel like he IS. His last 4 year ERA (3.6) is about right for a team that scores ~ 3 runs per 1st 5 innings. Get him out of the game by the 6th, finish with Frasor, Cordero, Santos and it might work well.
    This could be it: Anthopolous, lurking in the weeds, makes the grab and lands Jackson as the Jay’s #4 or 5 starter. C’mon Anthopolous, the rotation needs someone like this!

    • bloodysock - Feb 1, 2012 at 2:48 PM

      Three runs over five innings is a 5.40 ERA. That’s not worthy of a mystery team.

      • Francisco (FC) - Feb 1, 2012 at 3:25 PM

        He means three runs of support over five innings. In that context, a 3.60 ERA pitcher will keep you in the game more often than not.

      • cur68 - Feb 1, 2012 at 5:46 PM

        Thanks FC. You are correct.

  3. uyf1950 - Feb 1, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    If Gordon Edes’s article in the link is correct it would appear from this excerpt and I quote:

    “The Red Sox go into camp with three certainties in their rotation: Jon Lester, Josh Beckett and Clay Buchholz. They plan to bring relievers Daniel Bard and Alfredo Aceves to camp with the intention of them becoming starters, and general manager Ben Cherington has signed three experienced starters with injury histories — Vicente Padilla, Carlos Silva and Aaron Cook — to minor league deals with an invitation to big league camp.”

    Now of course this entire situation could change there is still 2 plus weeks left before Pitchers and Catchers report to camp. But as it stands right now I wonder if Bobby V is having 2nd thoughts about his comment ““Another pitcher would be, I guess OK,” added Valentine. “It’s not at the top of my wish list.”

    I wonder what is at the top of Bobby V’s wish list.

    • spudchukar - Feb 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM

      This might carry a little more weight, my friend, if the Yanks were not looking at Sabathia, Kuroda, and Pineda, and then comparably iffy candidates like Burnett, Garcia, Nova and Hughes. Granted I would take the Yankee starters over Boston, but not by a lot. The emergence of the Baby B’s may be a cushion, but they too are unproven, and while very promising haven’t shown they belong in the Bigs yet.

      • uyf1950 - Feb 1, 2012 at 3:01 PM

        My friend, I’m not sure Garcia is Iffy as you say. He’s been farily consistent the past few years. So I would hardly call him iffy. As for Nova why would you say he’s iffy? He finished 4th in the ROY voting. Other thaen he lacks a lot of experience he’s performed pretty darn well well the 1 full season he’s been with the Yankees. But, I will give you Burnett and Hughes are unknowns.

        My friend you might be interested in reading this link:

        http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2012-01-22/ranking-baseballs-starting-rotations-who-are-the-elite

      • lardin - Feb 1, 2012 at 3:17 PM

        Heres the difference. The Yankees have 7 Major league Starters. All have had success at one point or another in the Major leagues. CC, Kuroda, and Burnett will give you 200 innings each. Garcia, Hughes, Nova and Pineda are all Capable of giving you 175 innings each. The Yankees have a stocked AAA rotation, while not world beaters could probably give you league average pitching. The Yankees also have the best bullpen in baseball with 2 of the above starters going there, plus Joba coming back.

        Meanwhile the Sox, Have Three legit starters. One of which (Beckett who performs well every other year) and another (Bucholz)who’s never thrown more than 175 innings at any level as a pro and is coming off a serious back injury. There fourth starter was there setup man has never thrown more then 77 innings in his pro career, and there is a reason they converted him to a reliever. Aceves pitched his career high in innings last year with 114. They dont have any depth at AAA, otherwise Bard and Aceves would still be in the bullpen.

        Figuring 1500 innings a season, A team would hope to get 1000 from there starters so they dont blow at their bullpen. The Sox are going to have a hard time doing that.

        So lets look at this again. The Yankees staff has three legit horses (CC, Kuroda, and Burnett) The Sox have one in Lester. The Yankees have 7 Major League starters all with success at some point in the Majors, the Sox have three. The Yankees have depth at AAA, the Sox dont. The Yankees have a stacked bullpen that will only get better and deeper. The Red Sox are moving there two best relievers form last year into the rotation.

      • spudchukar - Feb 1, 2012 at 3:22 PM

        Nova sure was mentioned in a lot of trade talks. It is reported that the Mariners chose Noesi over Nova. Granted he has performed well, but I am skeptical once the league gets to see him more.

        As for Garcia, I just flat out disagree. Putting a lot of faith in him seems like folly to me, especially for the cash blessed Yanks.

        The guy that concerns me is Sabathia. Maybe last year was just a bump in the road, but he needs to address his weight. As he ages, his body is more susceptible to injury and the extra poundage can’t help.

        But at least the Yanks made significant moves to address their most pressing need. How it will work out, we shall see. But in an ever-improving AL East, the Sox better secure some help cause right now I see them finishing fourth.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 1, 2012 at 6:08 PM

        The guy that concerns me is Sabathia. Maybe last year was just a bump in the road, but he needs to address his weight. As he ages, his body is more susceptible to injury and the extra poundage can’t help.

        Not sure why you are worried. Since he’s been with the Yanks, he had the highest K/9 rate and lowest BB/9 rate, again throwing 230+IP. He had an easy argument as second best pitcher in the AL last year, and you could make an argument he was the best.

      • lardin - Feb 1, 2012 at 8:19 PM

        spud: The Mariners asked for Nova, the Yankees said no..

    • bobwsc - Feb 1, 2012 at 3:01 PM

      Wakefield baby!

  4. Kyle - Feb 1, 2012 at 4:16 PM

    I feel like he is. He’s an above average pitcher who will more than likely sign for pennies on the dollar.

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