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Roy Oswalt, like Edwin Jackson, turned down the Pirates

Feb 7, 2012, 1:23 PM EDT

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Pittsburgh hasn’t done much this offseason, but apparently it hasn’t been for a lack of effort. It just turns out no one wants to play for the Pirates.

Edwin Jackson reportedly turned down a three-year, $30 million offer from the Pirates to take a one-year, $11 million from the Nationals and now Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review writes that “the Pirates inquired about Roy Oswalt and were willing to jump into the bidding, but were rebuffed.”

Without knowing what exactly the Pirates offered Oswalt it’s tough to say whether his turning them down was more about money or lack of interest, particularly since the market for Oswalt continues to be so difficult to read despite spring training being right around the corner. Whatever the case, the Pirates have tried to add an expensive veteran to the rotation and no one will take their money.

  1. yettyskills - Feb 7, 2012 at 1:33 PM

    El Oh El

    Keep them Pirates down

  2. WhenMattStairsIsKing - Feb 7, 2012 at 1:36 PM

    I guess you have to make trades in order to bulk up your rotation, Huntington. What a shame.

    • rambodiaz - Feb 7, 2012 at 3:26 PM

      The problem with that is there’s just not much to trade. It’s not like they’ve got a surplus of players at any given position that they can flip for rotation help.

      I totally agree with you, but I feel like they’re in a really bad spot right now. You don’t want them giving up minor league talent for a starter right here because they’re not ready to really compete. Not this year, anyway.

  3. paint771 - Feb 7, 2012 at 1:36 PM

    Man, there’s already so many things working against small market losers like the Pirates (and I say that as a fan), it’s really sad to see this kind of stuff on top of everything else (not saying I blame Oswalt or Jackson).

    You don’t have money to get good ballplayers, so you suck. Or, you DO have money to get good ballplayers, but because you suck you have to pay over the market rate to get them to come play for you, so you suck. Or, since you suck, they won’t take your over the market rate offer anyway, so you suck.


    • yettyskills - Feb 7, 2012 at 1:57 PM

      Oh please cry me a river of tears.

      Know why nobody wants to play for the Pirates?
      20 Years of not trying & Not taking care of your own.

      20 years of not spending money, 20 years of not SCOUTING AND DEVELOPING players properly.

      Your Pirates ownership has completely and utterly failed over 20 years and players are not going to be fooled by another sub .500 season to ignore 20 years of history.

      You want your Pirates to be good again I know, but until they start developing their own and keeping their own, this will continue

      Like it should

      • yettyskills - Feb 7, 2012 at 2:00 PM

        Know what is working against small markets?
        Crying when the failure is building a good team from the ground up and crying about not being able to attract an old and busted pitcher.
        The Pirates are not the A’s, losing Barry was a LONG LONG time ago. It’s not like they have been the Expos either, losing stars yearly.
        A’s and Expos fans I feel their pain
        The Pirates? LMAO Please, they are getting exactly what they have coming to them based on their past decisions.

      • florida76 - Feb 7, 2012 at 2:07 PM

        Not a shock that a veteran pitcher on the backside of his career would not be interested in signing with the Bucs. If anything, I respect Oswalt for not playing games and coming right out and saying he wasn’t interested.

        For people who follow baseball, the Pirates have made progress, both on and off the field. A 15 game improvement last year netted the fourth largest attendance in franchise history with a first year manager. Of course, under baseball’s flawed system, even small market playoff teams have trouble attracting big name free agents. It’s just a fact of life with a sport which used to be the national pastime.

  4. kehnn13 - Feb 7, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    I don’t think the Pirates failed over the past 20 years. They just didn’t have the goal of winning. They wanted to keep payroll down and suck in those luxury tax dollars. Of course, not caring about winning does make it harder to get free agents…..

    • yettyskills - Feb 7, 2012 at 6:06 PM

      They failed because they have not drafted and developed well in 20 years.

      The A’s & Expos drafted well, developed those players and watched them leave to big contracts.
      The Pirates are not even close in this regard. If the Pirates were losing excellent talent every year I might feel bad, but they have not, they are reaping what they sowed.

  5. stairwayto7 - Feb 7, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    Jackson and Oswalt will both have tommy john surgury this season and the Pirates will be laughing!

    • thefalcon123 - Feb 7, 2012 at 4:37 PM

      ….and those laughs will turn to tears when they once against realize that MLB rules prevent Andrew McCutchen from hitting in 9 nine batting spots and that he is incapable of pitching 5 days a week.

  6. cur68 - Feb 7, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    Deep breath Rambodiaz. Lots of deep breaths. Don’t do anything rash. It’ll be ok.

    • rambodiaz - Feb 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM

      I just want some semblance of a first baseman. That’s it. Oswalt’s not going to make or break the rotation this year. But having to deal with Jones and McGehee over there is going to put me on meds.

  7. nightrain42 - Feb 7, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    It’s ok, within 2 seasons Pittsburgh will be the place to play. Finally drafted the right way, and developing that talent. Cole, taillon, heredia, bell and marte will b awesome !!!!

    • El Bravo - Feb 7, 2012 at 3:25 PM

      In two seasons, those folks will be playing for some other above-.500 squad and the Buccos will still be at square -1.

  8. rambodiaz - Feb 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    Oswalt wants a winner, plain and simple, and good for him. I’m glad that a vet like him gets to choose where he plays. I won’t say I wouldn’t have loved to have seen him in Pittsburgh, though. That’d be an outright lie.

    If a player won’t take your money, what else can you do?

    • umrguy42 - Feb 7, 2012 at 3:53 PM

      rambodiaz, you can take a shot at him in your Super Bowl commercial…

    • steelernation1 - Feb 7, 2012 at 5:58 PM

      and how exactly is a team like the pirates to get better if players like him dont sign with them?your comment is pathetic.

      • rambodiaz - Feb 7, 2012 at 9:09 PM

        Well, you don’t get better in the short term. And there’s no lying about it: it sucks.

        In the long term, you build your product from within and when it bears fruit, then you’re able to augment it with free agents. Theoretically, your balance sheet has improved because more fans are coming. More capital is available. More wins happen. It works out nicely.

        Pittsburgh is not a tiny market when it comes to baseball. There are those that would have you think that, and it’s my opinion that the previous management group wanted to live and die by that creed. There are real economic issues facing the Pirates. The current group is being reasonable about the bids they make.

        I’m not happy about the lack of signings either, but you have to be realistic. Why would a guy with 2-3 years, max, left in his tank want to spend one of them on a team with no realistic chance to compete?

  9. steelernation1 - Feb 7, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    i hope they both go down with season ending injuries at start of season..ignorant players.the pirates had a hell of a first half last year till the ump blew a call to start second half of season.
    why did that hurt the pirates everyone always asks?they are a young team for one.they were all excited to be where they were as a team.they worked hard to get in first place.only to have a ump make a horrible call and demoralized the young players,with that and not being able to over come injuries it was heart breaking..but for some idiot to say they wont play for the pirates cause of there past record is just wrong.

    could hey be a better team if some great players chose to play there yes.and it is time for great players to open there eyes to it.the Pirates office are doin what they can to bring big names to the plate.but offering them big money isnt enough i guess.

    • rambodiaz - Feb 7, 2012 at 9:01 PM

      and how exactly should a team like the pirates lure in big names if money isn’t enough?

  10. rjmarrella - Feb 7, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    I like that the pirates have made attempts… They are not the “losers” some of the commenters would have you believe. Their town is not trash either..and their fan base is pretty decent and knowledgable.
    It only takes one person saying yes to get things rolling (Jim Thome in Philly) and the Pirates will get that. It just takes time.
    Remember boys: the persistent bird gets the worm.

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