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	<title>Comments on: The Marlins are nickel-and-diming their young players</title>
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		<title>By: rooney24</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rooney24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do people still see this as nickle-and-diming?  Do you only read the headline and not the rest of the info?  How is $480,000 being cheap?  If you want the minimum higher, you should have set it higher.  If the player sucks, he still gets the $480,000, so why pay him more?  Some players will end up being &quot;underpaid&quot; (relative to their contributions) at that price, but most will end up not earning it.  If they show promise, then you can always pay them more.

Games really need to start.  Everyone is so amped for something (anything) to happen, that they jump all over stories like this.  Let&#039;s get to actual games, so most of this can go away.

Not surprised this is a story from Craig.  Most of his stories this week are written as if his opinion is fact and law, rather than just opinion, and he is trying to get people riled up.  Looks to be working for some of you folks.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do people still see this as nickle-and-diming?  Do you only read the headline and not the rest of the info?  How is $480,000 being cheap?  If you want the minimum higher, you should have set it higher.  If the player sucks, he still gets the $480,000, so why pay him more?  Some players will end up being &#8220;underpaid&#8221; (relative to their contributions) at that price, but most will end up not earning it.  If they show promise, then you can always pay them more.</p>
<p>Games really need to start.  Everyone is so amped for something (anything) to happen, that they jump all over stories like this.  Let&#8217;s get to actual games, so most of this can go away.</p>
<p>Not surprised this is a story from Craig.  Most of his stories this week are written as if his opinion is fact and law, rather than just opinion, and he is trying to get people riled up.  Looks to be working for some of you folks&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: rooney24</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rooney24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, maybe they do get the sarcasm, but don&#039;t find it funny or interesting.  Just because someone doesn&#039;t agree does not always mean they don&#039;t understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, maybe they do get the sarcasm, but don&#8217;t find it funny or interesting.  Just because someone doesn&#8217;t agree does not always mean they don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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		<title>By: lanflfan</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263210</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lanflfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is news, sounds like business as usual.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is news, sounds like business as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is correct, sir. But then, how many politicians do you know of anywhere who aren&#039;t dancing to the tunes being whistled by their corporate pimps?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is correct, sir. But then, how many politicians do you know of anywhere who aren&#8217;t dancing to the tunes being whistled by their corporate pimps?</p>
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		<title>By: Gamera the Brave</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gamera the Brave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or Charley Finley...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or Charley Finley&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: unknowneric</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[unknowneric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait... Jeffrey Loria?  Nickle and diming?  YOU DON&#039;T SAY?

That was sarcasm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230; Jeffrey Loria?  Nickle and diming?  YOU DON&#8217;T SAY?</p>
<p>That was sarcasm.</p>
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		<title>By: mcsnide</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263086</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mcsnide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real question is whether he was Eric or Laurie. BTW, is it a problem that the TV dad I most identify with is Red Foreman? On the bright side, one day it will be easy for my kids&#039; therapists to find the source of all their problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is whether he was Eric or Laurie. BTW, is it a problem that the TV dad I most identify with is Red Foreman? On the bright side, one day it will be easy for my kids&#8217; therapists to find the source of all their problems.</p>
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		<title>By: drewsylvania</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drewsylvania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Downthumbers aren&#039;t seeing the sarcasm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downthumbers aren&#8217;t seeing the sarcasm.</p>
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		<title>By: drewsylvania</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drewsylvania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The stadium isn&#039;t really about the Marlins--it&#039;s about corrupt legislatures approving the funds allocation because they want to increase their influence, and don&#039;t care if it&#039;s at the expense of taxpayers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stadium isn&#8217;t really about the Marlins&#8211;it&#8217;s about corrupt legislatures approving the funds allocation because they want to increase their influence, and don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s at the expense of taxpayers.</p>
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		<title>By: drewsylvania</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drewsylvania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I don&#039;t see how the union has grounds for a grievance.  But the Marlins&#039; good young players will be going elsewhere come free agency if the team doesn&#039;t change its stance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t see how the union has grounds for a grievance.  But the Marlins&#8217; good young players will be going elsewhere come free agency if the team doesn&#8217;t change its stance.</p>
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		<title>By: dirtycrumbs</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dirtycrumbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it makes sense Loria has to pinch pennies b/c he&#039;s paying for that new stadium entirely out-of-pocket. 

Oh wait.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it makes sense Loria has to pinch pennies b/c he&#8217;s paying for that new stadium entirely out-of-pocket. </p>
<p>Oh wait.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-263005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, but a cardboard cutout of Loria as a showgirl isn&#039;t going to inspire anyone to do anything but run for the hills. I imagine eye-bleach would be involved for removing sections of &quot;dress&quot;, too. Bleah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but a cardboard cutout of Loria as a showgirl isn&#8217;t going to inspire anyone to do anything but run for the hills. I imagine eye-bleach would be involved for removing sections of &#8220;dress&#8221;, too. Bleah.</p>
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		<title>By: granted42</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[granted42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s a bit ludicrous to expect the Union to fight this, when you realize that even at $414k you&#039;re in the 1% of wage earners in this country.  To endure three years of that before you start making big money in arbitration and becoming one of the .5% seems doable to me.

They get $66k more this year for absolutely no additional effort or output above what they would have done anyway. My family will probably get a $20k increase this year because, after three years of unemployment, I took a part time job.  So, I have to work an additional 20-30 hours a week for a whole year, while they just have to ride pine for six months for an additional $66k.  I also have to spend 30-40% of my increase on daycare, while the only change in their expenditures is 10% to their agent.  

When you consider that a Minor Leaguer who gets called up for the month of September this year will make $78k over his Minor League salary for one month&#039;s work, it&#039;s hard to have ANY sympathy for players&#039; financial statuses.

The Union needs to get some perspective, and keep it&#039;s trap shut on this issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a bit ludicrous to expect the Union to fight this, when you realize that even at $414k you&#8217;re in the 1% of wage earners in this country.  To endure three years of that before you start making big money in arbitration and becoming one of the .5% seems doable to me.</p>
<p>They get $66k more this year for absolutely no additional effort or output above what they would have done anyway. My family will probably get a $20k increase this year because, after three years of unemployment, I took a part time job.  So, I have to work an additional 20-30 hours a week for a whole year, while they just have to ride pine for six months for an additional $66k.  I also have to spend 30-40% of my increase on daycare, while the only change in their expenditures is 10% to their agent.  </p>
<p>When you consider that a Minor Leaguer who gets called up for the month of September this year will make $78k over his Minor League salary for one month&#8217;s work, it&#8217;s hard to have ANY sympathy for players&#8217; financial statuses.</p>
<p>The Union needs to get some perspective, and keep it&#8217;s trap shut on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: sleepyirv</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-262975</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sleepyirv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They also haven&#039;t fixed the hot water tub AND they&#039;re going to have to take a bus from now on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also haven&#8217;t fixed the hot water tub AND they&#8217;re going to have to take a bus from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: bigharold</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-262970</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigharold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Banging his head on the faucet trying to drink out of the sink?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banging his head on the faucet trying to drink out of the sink?</p>
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		<title>By: granted42</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-262955</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[granted42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Mark of the Beast?????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mark of the Beast?????</p>
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		<title>By: plmathfoto</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-262952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[plmathfoto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not if you&#039;re Emilio Bonifacio.  Look at that arbitration case (that they lost by the way) and how far apart the two sides are and they didn&#039;t settle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not if you&#8217;re Emilio Bonifacio.  Look at that arbitration case (that they lost by the way) and how far apart the two sides are and they didn&#8217;t settle.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-262949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Math fail on my part. $66,000&#039;s an even bigger reason to cry a river of non-existent tears.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Math fail on my part. $66,000&#8242;s an even bigger reason to cry a river of non-existent tears.</p>
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		<title>By: granted42</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-262945</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[granted42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some may even call them a thieves guild.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some may even call them a thieves guild.</p>
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		<title>By: rooney24</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rooney24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would be glad to just take the raise amount ($66,000).  I don&#039;t even need the entire minimum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be glad to just take the raise amount ($66,000).  I don&#8217;t even need the entire minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: WhenMattStairsIsKing</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-262928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhenMattStairsIsKing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was taken during a game, clearly - and ST games have yet to begin.  I thought it was that at first, too.  Also, look at the clear plastic line on his forehead.

Anywho, he&#039;s a douche.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was taken during a game, clearly &#8211; and ST games have yet to begin.  I thought it was that at first, too.  Also, look at the clear plastic line on his forehead.</p>
<p>Anywho, he&#8217;s a douche.</p>
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		<title>By: rooney24</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rooney24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The nose piece on his no-frame glasses.  But, it does look like he got smacked in the forehead by one of these poor, &quot;underpaid&quot; players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nose piece on his no-frame glasses.  But, it does look like he got smacked in the forehead by one of these poor, &#8220;underpaid&#8221; players.</p>
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		<title>By: megary</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/23/the-marlins-are-nickel-and-diming-their-young-players/comment-page-1/#comment-262924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[megary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ash Wednesday??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ash Wednesday??</p>
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		<title>By: WhenMattStairsIsKing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhenMattStairsIsKing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More importantly - what the heck is that on his forehead?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More importantly &#8211; what the heck is that on his forehead?</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would gratefully accept league minimum for the next 3 years of my servitude to The Man. Forgive me all, if I&#039;m not gonna get outraged for the poor sufferin&#039; ballplayers having to take their measly $16 000 raise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would gratefully accept league minimum for the next 3 years of my servitude to The Man. Forgive me all, if I&#8217;m not gonna get outraged for the poor sufferin&#8217; ballplayers having to take their measly $16 000 raise.</p>
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		<title>By: rooney24</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rooney24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holy Cow!!

Can I get nickle and dimed like that?  While I understand the idea trying to be pushed here, the fact that the minimum is nearly half a MILLION dollars really makes me have zero sympathy on this issue.  This also works out to be a 15.9% raise.  After enduring two years of wage freezes myself, and then lucky to get something in the 3% in raises, I have no sympathy for the players.  Buck up, play well, and get to arbitration, where you can get raises even if you don&#039;t perform particularly well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Cow!!</p>
<p>Can I get nickle and dimed like that?  While I understand the idea trying to be pushed here, the fact that the minimum is nearly half a MILLION dollars really makes me have zero sympathy on this issue.  This also works out to be a 15.9% raise.  After enduring two years of wage freezes myself, and then lucky to get something in the 3% in raises, I have no sympathy for the players.  Buck up, play well, and get to arbitration, where you can get raises even if you don&#8217;t perform particularly well.</p>
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		<title>By: racksie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[racksie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok. So the bloggers are siding with the lower paid players. It sort of makes sense. It would make more sense when guy&#039;s aren&#039;t routinely getting $190-250 million dollar contracts. Because that screws the league minimum guys. This is an argument without merit, if you refuse to acknowledge that first -----&quot;The minimum salary in the new collective-bargaining agreement increased from $414,000 to $480,000, giving even the lowest-paid players a handsome wage&quot;.-----is an obvious typo, because you had to mean a handsome wage INCREASE. Right? But fighting for the right of a guy to make an EXTRA $66,000 Over guy&#039;s being angry, disrepected, and having their wives say so, over $20,000,000 certainly makes the guy who thinks he could have an extra $66,000 in his pocket, over a guy whining about $20,000,000 of disrepect makes sense. In no grammatical way. The big guy&#039;s screw the little guy&#039;s. Baseball is no different than the real world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. So the bloggers are siding with the lower paid players. It sort of makes sense. It would make more sense when guy&#8217;s aren&#8217;t routinely getting $190-250 million dollar contracts. Because that screws the league minimum guys. This is an argument without merit, if you refuse to acknowledge that first &#8212;&#8211;&#8221;The minimum salary in the new collective-bargaining agreement increased from $414,000 to $480,000, giving even the lowest-paid players a handsome wage&#8221;.&#8212;&#8211;is an obvious typo, because you had to mean a handsome wage INCREASE. Right? But fighting for the right of a guy to make an EXTRA $66,000 Over guy&#8217;s being angry, disrepected, and having their wives say so, over $20,000,000 certainly makes the guy who thinks he could have an extra $66,000 in his pocket, over a guy whining about $20,000,000 of disrepect makes sense. In no grammatical way. The big guy&#8217;s screw the little guy&#8217;s. Baseball is no different than the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: bigharold</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigharold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; It’s bad form and I hope those cheapskates either change their mind about it or get all kinds of hell thrown at them by the union and the league.&quot;

It&#039;s bad form?  Is this important?  Cheapskates, ..Really?

Usually, I side with the MLPA on most matters but frankly they&#039;d be shooting themselves in the foot if they make a big deal over this non-issue.  Considering that the national unemployment rate is about 8.5%, even higher in Florida, ... and the fact that most people like myself haven&#039;t had a decent raise in four or five years, .. or that the increase alone in player minimum amounts to more than a significant portion of the population even makes it would be profoundly tone deaf to suggest that guys who&#039;s minimum wage hovers around a half a million bucks are somehow being mistreated.  Tone deaf on the scale of Mitt Romney suggesting that he too is included in the middle class or that he&#039;s not worried about the very poor because we have safety nets in place.

I get why players make what they make, .. supply and demand, ..  and don&#039;t have a problem with that in general.  In fact I&#039;d rather a few ball players be over paid than already very very wealthy owners acquire yet more wealth.  Remember, nobody ever paid a nickel to see an owner do anything. The players are the product.  But, working class hero BS aside, it would be a strategic blunder of epic proportions on the unions part to make a big deal over the fact the least experienced players in the game are only getting a $66.000 raise this year and suggest that they are somehow being treated unfairly. 

Keep in mind two things; 1. Owners don&#039;t pay for anything. The fans pay the bills.  2. Considering the state of the economy most of us would pee our pants to get a 16% raise and in most cases that 16% wouldn&#039;t come to anything near $66K.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; It’s bad form and I hope those cheapskates either change their mind about it or get all kinds of hell thrown at them by the union and the league.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad form?  Is this important?  Cheapskates, ..Really?</p>
<p>Usually, I side with the MLPA on most matters but frankly they&#8217;d be shooting themselves in the foot if they make a big deal over this non-issue.  Considering that the national unemployment rate is about 8.5%, even higher in Florida, &#8230; and the fact that most people like myself haven&#8217;t had a decent raise in four or five years, .. or that the increase alone in player minimum amounts to more than a significant portion of the population even makes it would be profoundly tone deaf to suggest that guys who&#8217;s minimum wage hovers around a half a million bucks are somehow being mistreated.  Tone deaf on the scale of Mitt Romney suggesting that he too is included in the middle class or that he&#8217;s not worried about the very poor because we have safety nets in place.</p>
<p>I get why players make what they make, .. supply and demand, ..  and don&#8217;t have a problem with that in general.  In fact I&#8217;d rather a few ball players be over paid than already very very wealthy owners acquire yet more wealth.  Remember, nobody ever paid a nickel to see an owner do anything. The players are the product.  But, working class hero BS aside, it would be a strategic blunder of epic proportions on the unions part to make a big deal over the fact the least experienced players in the game are only getting a $66.000 raise this year and suggest that they are somehow being treated unfairly. </p>
<p>Keep in mind two things; 1. Owners don&#8217;t pay for anything. The fans pay the bills.  2. Considering the state of the economy most of us would pee our pants to get a 16% raise and in most cases that 16% wouldn&#8217;t come to anything near $66K.</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After the new stadium, the new logo and unis, the new name and the spending spree, at least now Marlins fans can once again recognize their team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the new stadium, the new logo and unis, the new name and the spending spree, at least now Marlins fans can once again recognize their team.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, let&#039;s be accurate here - it&#039;s still costing them somewhere around $125 million of their hard earned luxury tax money too....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s be accurate here &#8211; it&#8217;s still costing them somewhere around $125 million of their hard earned luxury tax money too&#8230;.</p>
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